There isn't all that much to say about it. Trump apparently used his Jedi mind tricks (that he probably learned from the Russians) to control Cohen for ten years. Seems a little far fetched to me.
It's pretty clear that Trump violated campaign finance laws, he'll be fined for that. Other than that, the guy ratted out everyone but the Pope, we'll see what comes of it.
Maybe Trump didn't lie to congress while under oath?
Trump won't get a book deal, because the only book he ever read was "Art of the Deal", and "Art of the Deal" was written by someone else at Trump's behest. In short, he reads and writes at the 11th grade level -- obvious from his sneering inhalations that punctuate his speech when he's following the teleprompter.
Trump never had to pass the bar exam. Trump never had to subscribe to the ethics requirements of the legal profession, even as we snicker at the joke that sharks don't eat lawyers out of professional courtesy.
The idea that someone who lied once cannot be trusted a second time to tell the truth is by itself a litigator's argument and not a scientific appraisal of human behavior. If, for instance, you have a mafia thug who lies in court, and you tape-record him subsequently in his own safe surroundings as he talks to other lying thugs, you can be sure that the thugs aren't lying to each other. And if he lied the first time, one should ask "why did he lie the first time?" because the answer to that question must be included as a factor to test the inference about him lying the second time.
I just assumed that campaign finance violations weren't something that lead to incarceration. There have been two or three in the past that ended with fines.Why would Trump get fined when his co-conspirators are going to prison?
I just assumed that campaign finance violations weren't something that lead to incarceration. There have been two or three in the past that ended with fines.
Maybe Trump will end up in the can, if so we'll have Pence behind the wheel and life will go on.
It seems like the Russian collusion aspect is fading away, and the focus is more on his past business dealings. I would expect that's where all the dirt is, it will end up pivoting on how well Trump insulated himself from any wrong doing in that area. If it ends up that his only crime is a violation for paying off a couple of blackmailers, he'll walk.
Short version is "I like Cohen now because he threw Trump under the buss". I have no issue with that, but lets be honest about it. There is no need to pretend that Cohen redeemed himself, because he didn't. The "I was hypnotized" defense just doesn't fly.
What I'm hearing is that Cohen must be telling the truth now because it involves Trump and we all know Trump is guilty of something.
I still think he's a lying sack of crap who will say anything he believes will get him out of prison in less time.
What I'm hearing is that Cohen must be telling the truth now because it involves Trump and we all know Trump is guilty of something.
I still think he's a lying sack of crap who will say anything he believes will get him out of prison in less time.
It doesn't matter what you "believe" - Cohen gets nailed for lying now and it's going to add to the time he has to serve - he has nothing to gain by dishonesty at this point and everything to lose. But keep goin' with those feels and tingles in your gut that tell you otherwise. lol.
I just assumed that campaign finance violations weren't something that lead to incarceration. There have been two or three in the past that ended with fines.
Maybe Trump will end up in the can, if so we'll have Pence behind the wheel and life will go on.
It seems like the Russian collusion aspect is fading away, and the focus is more on his past business dealings. I would expect that's where all the dirt is, it will end up pivoting on how well Trump insulated himself from any wrong doing in that area. If it ends up that his only crime is a violation for paying off a couple of blackmailers, he'll walk.
No -- it isn't the correct short version. I don't need Cohen to provide me facts and instances from which I can conclude for myself that Trump is a criminal. I don't need Cohen to prove for myself that Trump is a morally depraved disaster cut from the lower underbelly of the American character. I'm not "out to get" Trump because this is some NFL game and we're all in it to win or lose, regardless of the consequences.Short version is "I like Cohen now because he threw Trump under the buss". I have no issue with that, but lets be honest about it. There is no need to pretend that Cohen redeemed himself, because he didn't. The "I was hypnotized" defense just doesn't fly.
Hart's problem didn't have anything to do with campaign finance. It was a different time & he was a different guy than Trump entirely, one ashamed of his extramarital dalliance.Tell that to Gary Heart
Hart's problem didn't have anything to do with campaign finance. It was a different time & he was a different guy than Trump entirely, one ashamed of his extramarital dalliance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Hart
Trump was fucking his way through half the gold diggers in NYC at the time.
Tell that to Gary Heart
Don’t think he did jail time but I know he came really close to it
Say what?
I suspect that you have him confused with another politician.
Yes.
Do you think people who lie for Trump are doing it because he orders them to lie??
Didn’t the mistress get some campaign money directed to her?
Maybe I’m wrong
Not that I ever heard/read and I was around when he made a complete fool of himself. His downfall was lying to the press about having an affair and then daring them to prove him wrong. And, of course, the press did.
I thought I remember him using some campaign money to rent the “Monkey Business” and pay her off.
Oh well I guess I’m wrong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_Business_(yacht)
Just did some searching, I suspect that you are thinking of John Edwards.