Yes, considering how big your nazi rallies are. I think Poland's was 60,000 people. You also have what happens annually in Austria.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3azb8/neo-nazis-and-nuns-photos-of-europes-largest-fascist-rally
You have Places like France banning religious clothing. You have people jailed for jokes with dogs. You have England pulling out of the EU because they wanted to stop immigrants. You have a big pro Right movement building all over Europe because of the migrant crisis.
Yeah, I think its reasonable.
Ok, let me rephrase. The "center" in European politics is a fair amount to the left of where it is in US politics.
If your argument is that those in power are currently more Left than in the US sure. That appears to be changing. Europe has a nasty habit of going extreme Right very quickly.
Lol. Really buddy? You're focusing on fringe examples instead of universal healthcare, strong labour laws, strong environmental protections etc.
Those fringe examples are growing much faster and with far more support on your side of the pond.
Well another thread gone to the shitter.
If your argument is that those in power are currently more Left than in the US sure. That appears to be changing. Europe has a nasty habit of going extreme Right very quickly.
Well another thread gone to the shitter.
This is pretty much it. Argument is fine, and fun, but it rarely happens here anymore.This sums it up pretty well. But there's also the fact that so few people here actually engage in actual discussions. Most threads where a conservative viewpoint is expressed are just insult wars.
I think the big reason is that there are two kinds of conservatives, the old style/economic kind and the culture war kind.
1) Old style - if you were one of these would you want to come around defending this shit show? Your tribal identity probably still lies with Republicans so you don't come out explicitly against it but it's also not defensible so you disengage.
2) Culture war - if you're in for the culture war with Trump these days that means embracing abject racism, sexism, anti-immigrant paranoia, and all sorts of insane conspiracy theories. That's the kind of thing that gets you banned around here.
That's my guess at least.
Seems like I hit a nerve, didn't expect my statement to be so controversial tbh.
I don't see your statement as anything to fuss over. You have what is naturally a different opinion based on your environment, just like anyone anywhere. It's not a threat, it's not wrong. What would be beneficial to any discussion is something internal, the analysis of meanings and their contexts and non-hostile discussion.
That's a whole 'nuther thing.
This is pretty much it. Argument is fine, and fun, but it rarely happens here anymore.
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still consider my self a fiscal conservative and social liberal. I think the libertarians are the most miss understood party. I vote for them because i cant stand the assholes with D or R by their names. I vote for a D or R when I think the opposite is a true wackadoodle and could have a chance... like our county commissioners race. Voted D because the Green party guy is Fing nuts and actually has a chance. An all the blades of grass have rights type.
Also, anytime someone wants to speak with logic and reason on the side of anything half way moderate here, they get their head chewed off by the left for being murders, racists, you pick the adjective.
So, whats the point of expressing a well thought out and articulated viewpoint when you will just get insulted for the next 3 pages and nobody will read beyond the first 3 words of your post before they equate you to being a trump supporting murderous racist homophobic Russian troll. Hell, i could post something from the Democratic positions documents and still get called those things around here.
I get in on a few of the shit shows in p&n but mostly stick to home and garden, automotive and OT.
What benefit does anybody not leaning to the left receive from partaking in discussion on this board?
Sadly the type you describe got too involved with Benghazi & Uranium One without ever acknowledging the stuff they posted or spoke about was false. Even when proven false.
Same with the propaganda printed during the election. Nobody has acknowledged passing it along. I’ll forgive anyone for unknowingly passing propaganda once.
I find it hard not to point that stuff out, so we are left with the crazies who continually come back for more.
Engage again, I like responsible talk about budgets and the military, just be responsible.
Edit: for example look here:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...des-on-eve-of-election.2556109/#post-39633795
Why does that poster feel he needs to derail a discussion about Trumps arguably racist or at bare minimum inappropriate ad. The Ad cannot be aired on broadcast TV. Why not create a new thread about it, maybe the story has some merit.
Here is another:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-pack-the-courts.2556115/page-2#post-39634454
To be considered a Popular Candidate you they need to capture a majority of voters from every single State? We all know that is an unrealistic expectation and I'd bet no President in recent history has accomplished this. I'll accept bickering over a 3% popular vote margin not being a huge majority because that is an opinion.
@Genx87 I did an edit
I Not being allowed to say what I want to say also makes me not want to post as much.
They pretty much all do sooner or later.Well another thread gone to the shitter.
This response doesn't answer my question about what benefit does anybody not leaning left gain by posting here?
What would you argue for? More failed trickle down? More tax cuts for the Rich? Deregulation of finance & environmental controls? Benefit cuts for needy Americans? More inequality? More voter suppression? More gerrymandering? Greater brutality in the way we treat asylum seekers? More spending on our bloated military? More arms sales to regimes like KSA?
That's what the leadership of the GOP argues for.