This thread was opened because:
A) there weren't enough liberal circle jerk threads in P&N
or
B) the OP is total clueless
You made that post a few pages back. And yes, I did look at Taj's and Spyder's history a bit to make sure I wasn't mistaken. If there's anything egregious, it must be further back.
And of course I'm not completely neutral and unbiased, but I can say with a straight face that I make an effort. You and your type can't, or at least shouldn't. To put it simply, if you're participating in an echo chamber and you don't feel uncomfortable with that situation, then you aren't even trying to control your biases - you're relishing in them - and that's obvious to anyone who doesn't have that specific defect. You can only argue that you aren't in an echo chamber, somewhat difficult in a thread titled Where have our conservative members gone, or that you aren't so comfortable here as you seem to appear.
Call out thread? lol
Me? I've been out buying booze & snacks for the party we're having Tuesday night.
I don't care if the Dems retake the house, so my life goes on either way. Repubs are pretty good about not having meltdowns over elections.
Self professed troll chimes in with standard short term memory loss. This is what I mean, @realibrad ....this poster, who literally called himself a troll unabashedly, seems to think conservatives are pretty good about "not" having meltdowns over elections. I mean, lol, c'mon.
This site does seem to have changed, to me. I think for some reason, the reduced traffic and 'aging out' of much of the clientele seems to have disproportionately affected the conservative side.
Either there's some very particular sociological reason for that, or it's just random path-dependence (as soon as random fluctuation means numbers of one political persuation fall, it becomes less appealling for them in general to be here so it becomes self-perpetuating).
This site does seem to have changed, to me. I think for some reason, the reduced traffic and 'aging out' of much of the clientele seems to have disproportionately affected the conservative side.
Either there's some very particular sociological reason for that, or it's just random path-dependence (as soon as random fluctuation means numbers of one political persuation fall, it becomes less appealling for them in general to be here so it becomes self-perpetuating).
Look, if you want to talk about society at large, and how conservatives have typically played the victim, then enjoy. Its backed by history and I for sure will not stop you. What I was talking about was this forum has greatly changed. The reason many people left is because of that perceived change.
Conservatives who cant find a way to be conservatives and still dump Trump... Yea I can see how that might be a hard sell.I can see why conservatives would get sick of this place. Day in, day out it is just the same 15 or so liberals telling each other how correct they are and fluffing each other about how moral and smart they are here.
Remember that time you called me out as being a rich white libertarian? Remember how you kept trying to label me as such and I had to defend myself by explaining that I was white but not rich and not libertarian? You are one of the nicer ones to do that, and we have great examples of others that are far more aggressive. Why would a moderate want to be involved in that? Further, given how this forum has always had a Left leaning from the time I have been on here, what is the logical outcome?
The posters post was here in this forum. Ignore it if you like.
Fact is, I have always found libertarians to be particularly annoying. Met many of them, almost always from privileged backgrounds. At least paleo-conservative type right-wingers often seem to be coming from a place of unhappiness and misplaced-resentment. Libertarians often seem to me to just be glorying in their privileges.
And your politics still strike me as being of that stripe. I accept you aren't from a wealthy background, but in a US context race is as important as class (also your background sounds no more 'ordinary' than my own).
But I'm not entirely disagreeing with your point about what causes people to stay away - but it's largely a matter of numbers, it seems to me. Aggressive arguments or getting personal is one thing, but how one reacts to that is going to be different depending on the balance of numbers. I think it's probably unstable, in that a venue that starts to tip in one direction is likely to continue to do so.
I didn't venture in here for a long time, because whenever I had a look it seemed to be full of racists using terms like 'savages'.
I also think any change is probably also related to the overall decline in traffic due to regulars mostly getting on a bit and the young folk using Facebook or instragram or whatever-the-hell is fashionable this week (I ignore those things in the hope that if I ignore them long enough they will go away - it worked with Myspace, after all). There might be some reason why that also leads to a political shift (perhaps conservatives age out more than liberals do for some reason)
There is no way that you think a single person qualifies as being equal to the vast majority of people that are not him right? I never said it was zero, but clearly you are smart enough to know that one person is not even close to the majority in this thread that are in opposition.
I provided an example of why conservatives leave the forum. They post garbage like that and the liberals here call them on it. I just didn't have to dig for it, the poster provided the easy layup.
Posters claiming to be liberal have also left. Who was that one poster who was extremely aggressive, claimed to be liberal, and many liberal posters told him to STFU. He left eventually. Very active 2017 IIRC.
Claimed to be a minister too? I think that guy was a Russian.
I think his username started with an "a"?
I think his username started with an "a"?
Figured it out
agent00f was the guy
Lol, yup....quite a nut.