Where/how do/did you find a good used car?

dud

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I may soon be in the market for another vehicle. Other than Craigslist, car.com, cargurus.com, autotrader, etc. was wondering where users find their vehicles (assuming used) and how they went about testing/purchasing.

Thank you ...
 

HarryLui

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What is your budget?

Ask for repair/maintenance documentation.
Ask if title is in the seller's name.
Ask how long the seller has own the car.
Ask why the seller is selling.
Ask for condition of the car.

If you detect any bs, walk away.

After checking/test driving the car, last step is to take whatever car you want and pay a mechanic to look it over before you hand over the cash.
 
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NutBucket

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Check all those places but honestly a luck and timing definitely play a (non-trivial) role.
 
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I ended up finding my current car on carsoup.

But like NutBucket says - luck and timing. It had been marked down from $10k to $9k the previous day, and while I was filling out the purchase paperwork, a father and daughter walked into the dealership, asking specifically to buy the car in question.
 

Evilviking

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CPO through a dealer.

This. I look at the included carfax and buy the the cpo with exceptional maintenance record. Which more often than not is the low mileage prior lease vehicle... manufacturers usually have specials on cpo low interest financing
 

monkeydelmagico

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I've found good used cars thru ebay, craigslist, autotrader, family members, and auctions. Auctions are tricky and have a good bit of uncertainty due to the lack of test drive. I've bought sight unseen off ebay with bulk of payment on pickup.

The only really junky car I've had was a dealership CPO car. Go figure.
 

JulesMaximus

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I've found good used cars thru ebay, craigslist, autotrader, family members, and auctions. Auctions are tricky and have a good bit of uncertainty due to the lack of test drive. I've bought sight unseen off ebay with bulk of payment on pickup.

The only really junky car I've had was a dealership CPO car. Go figure.

What kind of car was the CPO?
 

Evilviking

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What kind of car was the CPO?

Latest car was our honda odyssey at the end of last year. They try to clear stock. It's a 2012. Leather, entertainment package. 28k miles. religious maintenance record. Priced below blue book. CPO 7 year / 100k warranty. (I paid extra for an extended warranty coverage till 2022 or 128k miles all in writing) 1.5% apr financing offered by the dealership thru honda financial.....

Don't hate on the minivans. Love that car.
 

lxskllr

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Just got a pickup for work from a local tier 3 dealer. Probably wasn't the best deal possible, but I needed something now. Another week in the Malibu, there was a real chance I'd kill someone, quit work or both. If everything is as it appears, it should be a good truck, but it's too early to tell right now. Just brought it home today.
 

Sabrewings

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I most recently found one on Craigslist. I'm a mechanic by trade, so I drove it for a bit, put it on ramps, inspected everything, and decided it was up to snuff. Then I bought it.
 

JulesMaximus

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Latest car was our honda odyssey at the end of last year. They try to clear stock. It's a 2012. Leather, entertainment package. 28k miles. religious maintenance record. Priced below blue book. CPO 7 year / 100k warranty. (I paid extra for an extended warranty coverage till 2022 or 128k miles all in writing) 1.5% apr financing offered by the dealership thru honda financial.....

Don't hate on the minivans. Love that car.

Not hating. They're awesome.

I was really directing that question at the guy who said he had a junker CPO.

I've had good experience with Mercedes and their CPO program.
 

agent00f

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I may soon be in the market for another vehicle. Other than Craigslist, car.com, cargurus.com, autotrader, etc. was wondering where users find their vehicles (assuming used) and how they went about testing/purchasing.

Thank you ...

There are local businesses whose profession it is to find the best used vehicles for a nominal fee. They often look at auctions for off-lease vehicles, some of which aren't readily accessible to the general public.

There's a dealer near me that does something similar, specializing in off-lease exec-type lux cars from rust-free regions, and they supposedly charge $500 on top of what they pay. Don't know if that number's true but they do have much lower prices than most dealers.
 

agent00f

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This. I look at the included carfax and buy the the cpo with exceptional maintenance record. Which more often than not is the low mileage prior lease vehicle... manufacturers usually have specials on cpo low interest financing

The problem with CPO is the markup, which is high enough that a used car these days don't seem a substantial savings over new. OTOH they do tend get pick of the litter on the lease returns.
 

mvbighead

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For me, if you wind up looking at certain older cars, it becomes more about finding the one you like the best than finding the best absolute price. My wife and I were interested in a Subaru Tribeca, and had several options to consider. We looked at 2, and one was heads and tails in better shape than the other. Prices were similar, but a bit higher on the one we bought. Ultimately, I am buying something with the intention of keeping it, so as long as the prices are in the same ballpark, the quality of the item being purchased is FAR more important than the price tag.

As for where? Local dealers here use craigslist. I use that, autotrader, truecar, and others to find leads on what I am after. Then start digging in for more detail.
 

Uppsala9496

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GT 500. Turns out it had a wee bit of crash damage. Sold and serviced by the same dealer that did the CPO.
Had the same issue with an Edge. Dealer CPO from the dealer that originally sold the car. Previous accident that wasn't disclosed.
Same issue with a CPO BMW.

So both those brands are now on my "I will never purchase again, no matter what" list.
 

dud

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Just got a pickup for work from a local tier 3 dealer. Probably wasn't the best deal possible, but I needed something now. Another week in the Malibu, there was a real chance I'd kill someone, quit work or both. If everything is as it appears, it should be a good truck, but it's too early to tell right now. Just brought it home today.



May I ask what you bought and how you dealt with the dealer (Truecar, etc)? I may be buying another truck soon and Truecar is giving me a truly low estimated value to negotiate with.
 

orderlydentist

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I got our used car in an online shop who sells second hand vehicles. You can easily choose from a wide selections there. The costs vary and it will depend on your budget. You can also meet and do the bargaining. If you are lucky enough, you can get valuable cars in a lower cost.
 

lxskllr

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May I ask what you bought and how you dealt with the dealer (Truecar, etc)? I may be buying another truck soon and Truecar is giving me a truly low estimated value to negotiate with.

I didn't have much room for negotiation. Trucks are really hot around here, and the price was fair considering the mileage/condition. I also needed something now, so I didn't have the luxury of walking.

The way I'd approach it is research your *local* market. Book values are generally relevant, but may not be accurate for your specific area.

Also, more philosophically, predetermine what a car is worth to you, and if you see something you like that fits your criteria, just buy it. Life's too short to stress trivialities like money. My guidelines are $2k/year for car purchase price, not including minor repairs/maintenance. That's based on buying a new $30k car, and keeping it for 15 years. I'm not a car guy. If it fits my needs, I'll drive something into the ground. Looks don't matter, it simply needs to be fit for purpose. That's why my length of ownership is so long. $30k gets you a nice fit car without lots of "luxury". You'd want to adjust your numbers to fit your wallet/philosophy.

So... getting back to my truck. I paid $10k, and it had 90k on the odo. I figure you get 200k relatively problem free miles on any quality vehicle. That puts me slightly in the hole since I drive 25k/year. I need to drive it 5 years/225k to get my value from the truck($2k/year). You'll note my numbers don't add up between new/used mileage. This truck is for commercial purposes, and gets driven more than an exclusively private duty vehicle, so adjustments were made.

All of this is to say, figure what a vehicle is worth to you, and just go with it. It doesn't matter what a book says if it doesn't reflect your needs/wants. Nobody gets the best deal except the guy that does. There's one "winner", and everyone else is a "loser".

Also, time is your friend. If you can afford to wait, do so. I also prefer private sellers, and not dealers, but you have to know a bit about mechanics, or that can go terribly wrong. Don't forget to figure in gas/time driving around looking at cars. That eats into your bottom line.

As always, the saying "perfect is the enemy of good" applies. I'd still be in a Malibu if my boss was left to the task, and that would be unacceptable. My happiness is higher this week than it's been in a long time. I'm still pissed he didn't take the Cherokee I saw seriously, and it was sold. 210k on the odo, but it was $1k, and I have parts that fit it. That's disposable money, and the 4l motor is an American classic. In retrospect, I should have just bought it, and not waited around for his opinion...
 

z1ggy

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cars.com

Pull CARFAX

Have non biased mechanic examine vehicle

buy if all is clean

continue search via steps 1, 2 and 3 if not
 

mafia

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Also, time is your friend. If you can afford to wait, do so. I also prefer private sellers, and not dealers, but you have to know a bit about mechanics, or that can go terribly wrong.

This applies to both dealers and private sellers. I've had recognized local dealerships try to sell me garbage before. I was looking for a car under $5000 and my local Honda dealership had a 2003 Civic LX 5spd with 125,000k miles for $5k. Turns out the car had engine problems, was involved in a few accidents (which the carfax report did not say!) you could tell by the body panels, and the salesman didn't even want to negotiate the price. He kept dismissing my claims about the vehicle saying everything "was normal". Even the engine oil when I checked was filled way beyond the full-line. I rememebr he told me to wait 15 minutes after the car ran, then the engine oil level will be back to normal.
Dealerships really don't give a shit. And some salesmen will talk out of their asses saying things that are completely untrue and just ridiculous.

At least when you get a CPO, you are backed by the factory so if anything goes wrong, its on them. Buying a car as-is from dealerships or private sellers is pretty much the same risk.

I ended up buying a 2002 Honda Accord EX 5spd with 117k miles from a private seller for $3.5k with a beautiful maintenance record. Guy took care of the car. Have driven the vehicle already up to 140k miles without any problems besides replacing wear and tear items and maintenance.
 
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