Where is obama foreign policy?

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Lifer
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he's doing exactly what a progressive would do. he's engaging in the usual progressive symbolism / selective indignation and window dressing.
 

alcoholbob

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Oh man, "liberation."

We liberated them from the oppression of making a current account surplus by selling oil in Euros.
 

smackababy

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What exactly did we want Obama to do in all the situations presented by the OP? Should have just bombed each of those countries and called it a day? I'm sure Bush would have done that, right?


And speaking of ACA Death Panels, where can I sign up to be on one? I promise I will always vote in best interest of whoever I care of at the time.
 

dank69

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Hows that liberation working out now?

Last I heard the nation has slipped into chaos. The killing and conflict rages on.

I am starting to understand why people like Hussein and Kadafi ruled with an iron thumb. At least there was some sense of order.
Just asking for a little consistency on your part. You said we liberated Iraq so I was wondering why you didn't say the same thing of Libya.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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In his golf bag.

vacation reference?

--Far, far less "vacations" than previous disaster of a president.

--far less executive orders issued than previous dozen+ presidents. And less than about 60% of all presidents.
 

Texashiker

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Explain to me how easing trade sanctions on Iran has done anything? Negotiations keep getting pushed back. The current time frame is late November, after the mid-terms.

Where is our military technology that was sent to Egypt? The government was overthrown, what happened to the fighter jets that were sent over there? Maybe those jets were sold to China or North Korea?

We helped terrorist overthrow the government of Libya. Hows that working out?
 

zinfamous

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Explain to me how easing trade sanctions on Iran has done anything? Negotiations keep getting pushed back. The current time frame is late November, after the mid-terms.

Where is our military technology that was sent to Egypt? The government was overthrown, what happened to the fighter jets that were sent over there? Maybe those jets were sold to China or North Korea?

We helped terrorist overthrow the government of Libya. Hows that working out?

I dunno--how is any of that unique in the history of US foreign policy? Why did your butt-buddy Dubya arm and aid terrorists in overthrowing Iraq? How's that working out? How many US soldiers died for that cause? You praised Saddam earlier, in that he kept that country under control--this was a popular argument before the invasion; why were you so blind to it, then?

Why did the Libyans act against Qadafi themselves, only later aided by airstrikes under US direction? lol--what fucking planes are you talking about? Do you think they were just left in some hanger or something?

Why did your homo-fantasy Regan commit multiple acts of real treason and sell our weapons to Iran?

Why has every president always sought to work with Iran diplomatically?
 

smackababy

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Explain to me how easing trade sanctions on Iran has done anything? Negotiations keep getting pushed back. The current time frame is late November, after the mid-terms.
And what would pressuring them more do? Cause them to become increasingly hostile towards the US? Yeah, that's good foreign policy... Might as well have just bombed them and gotten it over with.

Where is our military technology that was sent to Egypt? The government was overthrown, what happened to the fighter jets that were sent over there? Maybe those jets were sold to China or North Korea?
Just because you, Texas Hiker, doesn't know where something is doesn't mean nobody else does either. What makes you think Egypt doesn't have them still?

We helped terrorist overthrow the government of Libya. Hows that working out?
Do you favor us occupying Libya? Please do tell me when US intervention in overthrowing a government has worked out in our favor. Go ahead, I'll wait.
 

Texashiker

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Do you favor us occupying Libya? Please do tell me when US intervention in overthrowing a government has worked out in our favor. Go ahead, I'll wait.

Why has every president always sought to work with Iran diplomatically?

To answer both of your questions, personally I think we should stay out of the middle east until a nation is a direct threat to us.

But then again, this is a different world than we lived in 2 decades ago. Instead of a plane flying into buildings, who is to say Iran will not give a terrorist group the bomb?


Why did the Libyans act against Qadafi themselves, only later aided by airstrikes under US direction? lol--what fucking planes are you talking about? Do you think they were just left in some hanger or something?

Why did your homo-fantasy Regan commit multiple acts of real treason and sell our weapons to Iran?

We give arms to terrorist, but spy on our own people? How does that make sense to you?

What about China, Russia, Central America?
 
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Explain to me how easing trade sanctions on Iran has done anything? Negotiations keep getting pushed back. The current time frame is late November, after the mid-terms.
I don't have a beef extending negotiations for another 4 months...but we should also extend the date to release their frozen funds as well. Releasing these assets now is really, really stupid imo.

Where is our military technology that was sent to Egypt? The government was overthrown, what happened to the fighter jets that were sent over there? Maybe those jets were sold to China or North Korea?
Then again, maybe not. What's your point? You want to take them back by force?

We helped terrorist overthrow the government of Libya. Hows that working out?
I was totally against our involvement here....Obama was wrong on Libya imo.
 

ivwshane

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So advocating that a forum member commits suicide?

Really?

Hope the mods ban you for a few. Stay classy.

Yep and please be sure to take the rest of my post with the same amount of seriousness!

Bitches gonna bitch, I guess!
 

smackababy

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To answer both of your questions, personally I think we should stay out of the middle east until a nation is a direct threat to us.

But then again, this is a different world than we lived in 2 decades ago. Instead of a plane flying into buildings, who is to say Iran will not give a terrorist group the bomb?




We give arms to terrorist, but spy on our own people? How does that make sense to you?

What about China, Russia, Central America?

Your argument is we should just sit back and let terrorist breeding grounds fester until they have the capability to actually attack us or a cell network that is impossible for us to actually combat effectively? Ask 9/11 how that worked out. You still didn't answer my question though. What, concerning Libya, has Obama done differently than every other president that has tried to interfere with internal government politics in a country? And, why do you expect he would get a vastly different result than every other president that has done the same? So, when a democratic president achieves the exact same results as a conservative, he is bad; but, the conservative president is fine, despite having achieved the same result?
 

waffleironhead

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Are you talking about the " don't talk with anyone, just bomb the shit out of everybody" foreign policy?
 

rudder

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Foreign policy is typically done by Presidents with bi-partisan support. Obama has imbeciles who have decided to destroy the US to get at him for being a do nothing President. Until the American people wake from their right wing nightmare and vote to sweep these assholes out of Government and vote in progressives, we will continue to fuck ourselves.

Maybe Obama is full of self hate. You see there have been other democratic presidents that were able to accomplish a few things while in office. Clinton was one such president. He understood that in order to get some things he wanted for the democrats he would have to compromise with the republicans. Clinton worked with Newt Gingrich the same way Reagan worked with Tip O'Neal. Now we have this wonderful community organizer running things whose followers simply yell extremist racist when his emperor like ruling style is brought up. I guess his self hate make him deny to himself the need to reach out to people who know what the fuck is going on in the world.
 

Texashiker

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Your argument is we should just sit back and let terrorist breeding grounds fester until they have the capability to actually attack us or a cell network that is impossible for us to actually combat effectively? Ask 9/11 how that worked out. You still didn't answer my question though.

There has to be a better option than violence.

But guess what, obama does not have a foreign policy to find out. Just drone strike them into submission.

Todays children, after seeing their parents killed by drone strikes, will be tomorrows terrorist.

Would you rather that child say the United States sent us food, clothing, medicine, vaccines,,,,,? Or would you rather those children talk about how a missile killed their family members?

Guess which path we are going down?

The actions of the obama administration today are ensuring future generations of terrorist. Maybe if we stopped killing them, they would stop hating us.
 

JEDIYoda

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Do you guys mind is I pull up my Lawn chair that was made in China....
plant my feet on the table that was made in Indonesia......
Then pour a nice cold Brewski that was imported from Malaysia.....
 
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