Where is obama foreign policy?

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DominionSeraph

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I specifically said that taking an absolute side of any issue is fool hearty.

But what have you just taken right there? An absolute side. You have taken the side that, "taking an absolute side is 'fool hearty'." As I said, your position is self-contradictory.

Also, it's foolhardy to question someone's grasp of the English language in the same post where you exhibit that you neither know how to spell "foolhardy" nor the fact it's not two words.
 

Angry Irishman

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But what have you just taken right there? An absolute side. You have taken the side that, "taking an absolute side is 'fool hearty'." As I said, your position is self-contradictory.

Also, it's foolhardy to question someone's grasp of the English language in the same post where you exhibit that you neither know how to spell "foolhardy" nor the fact it's not two words.

Perhaps you should reference the meanings of absolute and compromise and apply them to real life. I'll take a typing demerit for the Bill Gates auto correct feature if that's the worst thing I've done.

If there is never any middle ground just how does anything get accomplished? Through violence or the situation of stalemate that exists in this country now?
 
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DominionSeraph

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Perhaps you should reference the meanings of absolute and compromise and apply them to real life.

Reality is an absolute, moron. Do you not understand that anything true is not not true? Truth cannot truthfully be a compromise between truth and nontruth without being self-contradictory.
 

Angry Irishman

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Reality is an absolute, moron. Do you not understand that anything true is not not true? Truth cannot truthfully be a compromise between truth and nontruth without being self-contradictory.

Well that depends on what you qualify as truth, doesn't it? Go outside once in a while, kiss a girl, play with little ponies, rub one out....whatever brings you back to living in the real world. Also, if you are working towards a degree in philosophy change your goals as it's a useless degree in real life as is this line of thinking. You must have a hell of a time making basic decisions. Hey, whatever floats your boat...best of luck.
 
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Well that depends on what you qualify as truth, doesn't it? Go outside once in a while, kiss a girl, play with little ponies, rub one out....whatever brings you back to living in the real world. Also, if you are working towards a degree in philosophy change your goals as it's a useless degree in real life as is this line of thinking. You must have a hell of a time making basic decisions. Hey, whatever floats your boat.

Careers for philosophy majors:

http://www.philosophy.umd.edu/undergraduate/careers

Skills and careers with a philosophy major:

https://philosophy.as.uky.edu/where-can-philosophy-take-me
 

Texashiker

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Instead of starting a new thread on obama and his missing foreign policy, I would like to add isis and the growing nato response to ukraine.

Two US citizens were murdered by isis, and all obama does is tell the public he does not have a policy?

There was some news reports of air strikes against isis a few days ago? But nothing official from the administration?

When are we going to see some kind of policy from the obama administration? Seriously, isis killed two of our citizens, broadcast it out for the world to see, and obama plays golf?

I am a little pissed off that our president acts like he does not care that our citizens were murdered.

Personally, I feel what isis did was an act of war.
 
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Kadarin

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Obama does need to step it up and start being, well, Presidential. Or something. Anything.
 

fleshconsumed

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Instead of starting a new thread on obama and his missing foreign policy, I would like to add isis and the growing nato response to ukraine.

Two US citizens were murdered by isis, and all obama does is tell the public he does not have a policy?

There was some news reports of air strikes against isis a few days ago? But nothing official from the administration?

When are we going to see some kind of policy from the obama administration? Seriously, isis killed two of our citizens, broadcast it out for the world to see, and obama plays golf?

I am a little pissed off that our president acts like he does not care that our citizens were murdered.

Personally, I feel what isis did was an act of war.

So I'm curious. What would you do? Condemnation? Sanctions? Start another invasion?
 

brycejones

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So I'm curious. What would you do? Condemnation? Sanctions? Start another invasion?

Well there is always Ted Cruze and his shoot from the hip "bomb them back to the stone age" foreign policy. Because that is what real man would do. Look to kill the most people possible as the solution.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Obama does need to step it up and start being, well, Presidential. Or Anything.

I'm sympathetic to some degree with the complexities of ISIL, but never say "I have no plan", assuming that's what was said.
 

Texashiker

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So I'm curious. What would you do? Condemnation? Sanctions? Start another invasion?

Bomb them back to the stone age.

By killing our citizens and making threats towards the united states, isn't that an act of war? Shouldn't we respond as such?

Personally, I do not care if we invade Syria. The alternative is isis taking control of weapons and escalating the conflict.

isis is a cancer and it is growing fast. How long should obama wait before he takes action? Until the royal family of Saudi Arabia is overthrown? Until the oil fields in Kuwait and Saudi are seized?

Maybe when chemical weapons are released on Israel? Maybe then obama should take action?
 
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fleshconsumed

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Bomb them back to the stone age.

By killing our citizens and making threats towards the united states, isn't that an act of war? Shouldn't we respond as such?

Personally, I do not care if we invade Syria. The alternative is isis taking control of weapons and escalating the conflict.

isis is a cancer and it is growing fast. How long should obama wait before he takes action? Until the royal family of Saudi Arabia is overthrown? Until the oil fields in Kuwait and Saudi are seized?

Maybe when chemical weapons are released on Israel? Maybe then obama should take action?

Bomb whom? ISIS? We're already doing that. Or are you advocating for mass genocide by bombing the entirety of Iraq/Syria?
 
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I'm sympathetic to some degree with the complexities of ISIL, but never say "I have no plan", assuming that's what was said.
He said last week "We don’t have a strategy yet". He also said last January "I think the analogy we use around here sometimes and I think is accurate is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant."
 

Texashiker

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Bomb whom? ISIS? We're already doing that.

Proof? All I see is isis execution videos.

Have you seen some of the videos out of the middle east? Hundreds of people being lined up and shot.

I have seen nothing that indicate isis is slowing down.

Then there is the increasing tensions with Russia over the Ukraine.
 

fleshconsumed

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Proof? All I see is isis execution videos.

Have you seen some of the videos out of the middle east? Hundreds of people being lined up and shot.

I have seen nothing that indicate isis is slowing down.

Then there is the increasing tensions with Russia over the Ukraine.

Straight from fox news:
http://q13fox.com/2014/08/09/obama-...airstrikes-calls-on-iraqis-to-secure-country/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...-city-under-siege-by-islamic-state-militants/
http://video.foxnews.com/v/37633665...e-best-strategy-to-defeat-isis/#sp=show-clips
 

CLite

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Proof? All I see is isis execution videos.

Have you seen some of the videos out of the middle east? Hundreds of people being lined up and shot.

I have seen nothing that indicate isis is slowing down.

Then there is the increasing tensions with Russia over the Ukraine.

Two beheadings versus ISIS losing ground on many strategic points, tens of thousands of people being freed from sieges, and many videos of bombings. All you've seen is execution videos so that's all that's happening in the world.

Do you live in a cave or are you so willfully ignorant that your brain auto-filters everything that goes on around you?
 

Texashiker

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Two beheadings versus ISIS losing ground on many strategic points, tens of thousands of people being freed from sieges, and many videos of bombings. All you've seen is execution videos so that's all that's happening in the world.

Do you live in a cave or are you so willfully ignorant that your brain auto-filters everything that goes on around you?

Losing ground? You are funny.

isis captured surface to air missiles in Syria, has captured planes, may have chemical weapons,,,, but for some reason yall thing isis is losing ground?

It seems like everyday news comes out of how isis is gaining new fighters and weapons.
 

senseamp

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He said last week "We don’t have a strategy yet". He also said last January "I think the analogy we use around here sometimes and I think is accurate is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant."

Yeah, real pros like the neocons never admit they have no strategy yet. We find that out after they invade a country and it turns into a total clusterfvck.
 

inachu

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American foreign policy has been hijacked ever since the 1960's

If you want our foreign policy back in the hands of regular red white and blue americans then you need to mark all members of A.I.P.A.C. as agents of a foreign nation and strip them of any type of GOVT role on USA soil.

I would also then strip american citizenship from the AIPAC members who are also evangelicals as they they are also the warhawks for Israel.

On all those tape recordings of Nixon mentioning Israel he was never wrong!
 
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