Where is obama foreign policy?

[Texashiker]

http://www.ibtimes.com/isis-may-pos...amman-sends-intelligence-reports-nato-1677972

http://rt.com/news/183048-isis-grow-expand-jihadist/

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Didn't you hear, the air strikes are destroying isis.

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Thank you for the links.

It seems like everyday some kind of news comes out about ukraine or isis, while obama is on vacation playing golf.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

We didn't invade it, so obviously not.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

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Didn't you hear, the air strikes are destroying isis.

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Thank you for the links.

It seems like everyday some kind of news comes out about ukraine or isis, while obama is on vacation playing golf.

The air strikes are helping.

 

[bshole]

The air strikes are helping.

.....helping the Iranian and Syrian regimes.....

 

[Texashiker]

The air strikes are helping.

There is no doubt about that. But it is going to take a lot more than air strikes to take down isis.

I honestly think obama does not have what it takes to lead this nation through rough times.

Not only does he not have the guts to make the tough calls, he probably is not listening to his advisers.

Benghazi and two US citizens beheaded, and all we can claim is some air strikes? Really? How many citizens have to die before obama does something?

 

[Bitek]

Russia
Ukraine
China
Iran
Syria
Iraq
Egypt

What do you want Obama to do?

OP?

I think the flaw in your complaint is that there is a clear path forward, and the us has tools to fix the problem.

As far as I can see, there are only bad choices.
We want to stop "the bad guys", but bad guys are on both sides in most of those places.

Stopping anyone involves using the military, but no one wants more wars, plus we're in massive debt already.

But, if we do nothing, we could still pay a price! So we should prioritize, what is the most dangerous situation that we could improve? Which is it? We can't do everything, so where to fight?

Personally Egypt, Libya and Iran fall down the list, Israel can handle itself, so that leaves Russia and Syria. China? Do what exactly?

Syria: dangerous, we could kick some ass there, but to what end? Likelihood it will do any better than any of the ME adventures we've been on? Best we do is bad to different bad most times.

Ukraine? OK chances we do not end up in full scale war with Russia? IDK.. Plus they got nukes.

So Tex, where we firing first?

 

[Brainonska511]

.....helping the Iranian and Syrian regimes.....

The world isn't black and white. Sometimes, there are no "good guys" and you are simply stuck supporting the side that is less evil and more aligned with your own interests.

 

[Texashiker]

So Tex, where we firing first?

My personal opinion, isis poses the greatest threat to the united states since maybe world war II.

Osama bin laden could only have dreamed of having an army like isis does. In the grand scheme of things, bin laden is small scale to what has happened after he died.

 

[bshole]

The world isn't black and white. Sometimes, there are no "good guys" and you are simply stuck supporting the side that is less evil and more aligned with your own interests.

Heres a novel idea..... how about staying the FUCK out? Why is that concept so alien to you warmongers?

 

[Brainonska511]

Heres a novel idea..... how about staying the FUCK out? Why is that concept so alien to you warmongers?

I'm a warmonger? Where did I support starting another war?

On the same note, we shouldn't simply turn our backs on the world and ignore its problems. We can't solve everything, but we can help where we are able.

 

[Texashiker]

There was a theory that if hitler had never rose to power there would have been a power vacuum left after world war I. Instead of hitler, stalin would have rose to power and conquered europe.

As history stands right now, hitler and stalin rising to power at the same time canceled each other out. Just a couple of months after germany surrendered the US dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. Stalin knew there was no way he could defeat the allies.

Now that Hussein and Bin Laden are dead, there is a power vacuum in the middle east. Just as the Germans flocked to hitler, so are muslims flocking to isis.

Just as hitler tried to restore germany to its former glory, I suspect isis will try to bring the middle east together under one islamic ruler.

I hope I am wrong.

 

[bshole]

There was a theory that is hitler had never rose to power there would have been a vacuum left after world war II. Instead of hitler, stalin would have rose to power and conquered europe.

As history stands right now, hitler and stalin rising to power at the same time canceled each other out. Just a couple of months after germany surrendered the US dropped nuclear bombs on Japan. Stalin knew there was no way he could defeat the allies.

Now that Hussein and Bin Laden are dead, there is a power vacuum in the middle east. Just as the Germans flocked to hitler, so are muslims flocking to isis.

Just as hitler tried to restore germany to its former glory, I suspect isis will try to bring the middle east together under one islamic ruler.

I hope I am wrong.

They haven't a prayer against Iran, not a prayer in the world. Let Iran deal with them. Every bomb dropped on ISIS is a victory for Iran... a supposed member of the unholy AXIS of evil. If we just wait for a year, you guys will try to have us bombing enemies of ISIS.

 

[Texashiker]

If we just wait for a year, you guys will try to have us bombing enemies of ISIS.

Unlike liberals I have this thing called morals and values.

I can not support groups that kill innocent people.

 

[bshole]

Unlike liberals I have this thing called morals and values.

I can not support groups that kill innocent people.

Our armed forces killed tens of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and yet you still support them(directly and indirectly)..... so excuse me if I don't believe your rhetoric.

 

[zinfamous]

There was a theory that if hitler had never rose to power there would have been a power vacuum left after world war I. Instead of hitler, stalin would have rose to power and conquered europe.

That's cute. Of course, some might look at the history that actually did happen, and see that, in fact, Stalin did conquer very much of Europe and the USSR maintained control of those occupied territories for the next 60 years.

Bear in mind that Hitler/Stalin were allies that divided European territory into German/Russian influence, and both were equally culpable in beginning WW2. Stalin's aggression in dividing Poland and Northern/eastern Europe (the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact) between Russian and German spheres of influence is no less than Hitler's. Stalin had no interest in western Europe--none of it was "historical sovereign Russian territory" in his mind (nor was the majority of the land he believed was Russian, but that's another issue).

 

[zinfamous]

There is no doubt about that. But it is going to take a lot more than air strikes to take down isis.

I honestly think obama does not have what it takes to lead this nation through rough times.

Not only does he not have the guts to make the tough calls, he probably is not listening to his advisers.

Benghazi and two US citizens beheaded, and all we can claim is some air strikes? Really? How many citizens have to die before obama does something?

Bengazi again? really? Are you that fucking stupid?

The toughest calls to make are the ones that he is, in fact making. The idiot calls are the ones that got the world into this mess: invade, shoot, occupy, create enemies, deal with the mess later (Rather, let someone else deal with it. herp derp!)

TH: you are a buffoon.

 

[brycejones]

Unlike liberals I have this thing called morals and values.

I can not support groups that kill innocent people.

This from someone who posted the answer is to "bomb them back to the stone age" you don't think innocent people get killed in that scenario?

 

[Texashiker]

Bengazi again? really? Are you that fucking stupid?

Stupid?

How many Americans have to die before the obama administration does something?

10, 20, 200, 500, 5,000, 500,000?

 

[zinfamous]

Stupid?

How many Americans have to die before the obama administration does something?

10, 20, 200, 500, 5,000, 500,000?

So they are doing nothing? explain. (This requires more than "They are doing nothing! waaaa!")

again, why Bengazi? the whole absurdist theory about administration collusion, mishandling, mis-allocation was outright destroyed through investigation. Even the nuttiest of nutters have finally abandoned that as a talking point. Why do you still cling, as if a dingleberry on the taint of politics, to this Bengazi horseshit?

Is it your general inability to make rational independent judgments from reliable sources of information?

 

[thraashman]

Stupid?

How many Americans have to die before the obama administration does something?

10, 20, 200, 500, 5,000, 500,000?

Well it took us having ZERO Americans die for us to invade Iraq back in 2003. And that actions directly has led to thousands and thousands of Americans dying and hundreds of thousands of non Americans dying. So ... I'd say the track record of Obama is significantly better than the main alternate option.

 

[D-Man]

It could all be over right now for you...just do it End your pain and suffering!

Total Bullshit Pal Get help for yourself

 

[inachu]

9,000,000,000 Americans need to die before we tell Israel to shut the fuck up.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Unlike liberals I have this thing called morals and values.

I can not support groups that kill innocent people.

You're a fucking moron if you even consider this statement factual in any way.

 

[brycejones]

Stupid?

How many Americans have to die before the obama administration does something?

10, 20, 200, 500, 5,000, 500,000?

This from someone who posted the answer is to "bomb them back to the stone age" you don't think innocent people get killed in that scenario?

I would really love to see your answer to this.......

 

[Texashiker]

Well it took us having ZERO Americans die for us to invade Iraq back in 2003. And that actions directly has led to thousands and thousands of Americans dying and hundreds of thousands of non Americans dying.

Unlike the other troll crap others are posting, your post makes a good point.

The substance is not your post, but what your post reflects. Since late 2001 the United States has been involved in a non-stop conflict. Not a major conflict where 20,000 are dying in one day, like what happened Battle of Gettysburg where over 50,000 died. The middle east has worn down our desire to fight. The middle east has been like a river against its banks. The constant flow has slowly worn us down. Little by little the American people have lost interest in the middle east.

The American people will be against attacking isis until they are on our door step. I doubt anythign short of nuking London or New York will get the people fired up again.

We are isolated from the conflict by 2 oceans. Instead of isis being just a few hundred miles from our borders, they are several thousand away. As long as the enemy is "over there", people just are not going to care.