Where is the Anandtech 950 review

JustMe21

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It's been over 2 weeks since the launch and still no review. Granted, it's a cut down 960, but most other sites did reviews and we were told we would get one a week later, but no full review still.
 

Zodiark1593

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What's there to review? Performance is far from ground-breaking. Power use is meh. Price is too high. The only thing that really sets it (and the 960) apart is that HEVC decoder.
 

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What's there to review? Performance is far from ground-breaking. Power use is meh. Price is too high. The only thing that really sets it (and the 960) apart is that HEVC decoder.
And the only reason you would know any of that is by reading reviews from elsewhere. AT seems to ignore the GPU space now unless it's a $400+ GPU.
 

Zodiark1593

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And the only reason you would know any of that is by reading reviews from elsewhere. AT seems to ignore the GPU space now unless it's a $400+ GPU.

I didn't even need reviews to know that much on the 950. The GM206 chip is a known element at this point (and I own a 960), and the 950 simply features 25% fewer shaders active. The price is very close to the 960, so much so that even if you are locked in the Nvidia ecosystem, spending an extra $10-15 on a 960 is a much better deal.

Come to think of it though, the 960 didn't get a review either. Guess there is much reduced interest in the lower end segments.
 

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Anandtech is getting too slow for my taste.. it didn't use to be that way.
 

RandallFlagg

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Come to think of it though, the 960 didn't get a review either. Guess there is much reduced interest in the lower end segments.

If Steam hw survey is to believed, the 960 is the 2nd bestselling GPU on the planet, 970 is #1. The 980ti and fury \ fury x don't even rate their own slot in the rankings.

Seems like the whole 150-300 segment is ignored. The R9 380, 370x, and 370 are also on ignore.

I think a lot of folks at this point would be interested in a thorough examination of the plusses and minus' of 4GB vs 2GB on these new midrange cards.
 

alcoholbob

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950 is like the Titan Z launch. The product literally makes no sense considering a card 25% faster comes with a free $50 game and often sells for less than the 950 after rebate. We've had 960s for months selling at retail places like Staples for ~$130-135.

950 should've been a $120 card max.
 

Seba

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I think a lot of folks at this point would be interested in a thorough examination of the plusses and minus' of 4GB vs 2GB on these new midrange cards.

Yeah, I would also like to see a review of GTX 960 2GB vs. GTX 960 4GB (and maybe other cards from the same price range, like R9 380 2GB and R9 380 4GB) in multiple games, at 1920x1080, with settings that are giving playable framerates (at least an average fps of 60, if not a minimum fps of 60 - obtained with the best card from the group). And with a medium-high range CPU (like Core i5 4460 Haswell, for instance), not with a Core i7 6600K Skylake, Core i7 Extreme 5960X Haswell-E or even Core i7 4790K Haswell. Those GPU-CPU combinations are not realistic.

"Reviews" that are comparing performances at unplayable game settings are useless.
 
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lavaheadache

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Anandtech isn't actually Anandtech anymore. It is someone-else tech. It is no more Anandtech than McDonalds belongs to the McDonald's. With that said, I still enjoy the community even if I do it in lurker mode as I have for about the last year. I still enjoy my PC but I keep most of my *noise* about it to a minimum around here since mostly it just invokes the trouble makers.

I would like to see the site get back to more of it's roots and slow down the moderation some.

So yah... I bet we will continue to see the site getting sluggish putting up timely reviews of the hardcore tech and more trendy things like Iphone watches.
 

lavaheadache

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950 is like the Titan Z launch. The product literally makes no sense considering a card 25% faster comes with a free $50 game and often sells for less than the 950 after rebate. We've had 960s for months selling at retail places like Staples for ~$130-135.

950 should've been a $120 card max.


The only thing wrong with a Titan Z is price. It never made sense to buy one at MSRP but one simply can not argue with it's performance and appeal in form factor and outright potential unleashed with added fan noise or watercooler.
 

RussianSensation

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950 is like the Titan Z launch. The product literally makes no sense considering a card 25% faster comes with a free $50 game and often sells for less than the 950 after rebate. We've had 960s for months selling at retail places like Staples for ~$130-135.

950 should've been a $120 card max.

I hope Ryan calls NV out on how overpriced the GTX950 is at this time wrt to US prices when compared to the 960.

The cheapest GTX950 I see on Newegg is the MSI version for $159.99 - $10 MIR = $149.99. The cheapest GTX960 is the Gigabyte $189.99 - $20 MIR = $169.99. But ironically the 960 is actually smaller and it comes with a MGS V game which can probably be sold for even $10-20. I presume by the time the GTX950 review goes live, the MGS V combo might run out though. Still, the 960 2GB costs barely more than the 950.

I also hope there is far more emphasis on sub-$200 cards having only 2GB of VRAM. This should be covered because there are games that take a big penalty with < 3GB of VRAM at high settings.











Since many budget gamers cannot afford to upgrade their GPU every 15 months, I think it's important to bring out the major risk factor of buying a 2GB card in Q4 2015 and beyond with the intention to keep for 2-3 years.

I also think that even though GTX950 supports SLI, the card is completely unsuitable for this function given that a single R9 290/GTX970 is as fast as GTX960 SLI and the 2GB VRAM limit makes choosing 950 SLI (or 960 2GB SLI) a very poor choice when for a similar price (970) or less $ (290) one can more consistent performance in a single chip.



Finally, some reviewers are choosing to use AMD's R7 370 as a direct competitor to the GTX950 but R7 370 can be found for $135-140. At the same time some professional review sites are completely ignoring the existence of $155 R9 285 or $165 R9 280 3GB. It makes the reviews sound biased when R7 370 that costs $10-15 less than the GTX950 is considered but even faster AMD cards like R9 285/280 that cost just $10-15 more than the 950 are ignored in the same review. Also, R9 270X can be found for $150 as well and it's also faster than the R7 370.

I would love to see a review of R7 370/270X/280/285/280X and 750Ti/950/960 2GB/960 4GB and the R9 290 to represent the next level up for comparison purposes. That would really provide the full picture but I realize it's not realistic as that's too many GPUs.
 

alcoholbob

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Actually Phantom Pain PC Steam keys are still going for $45-50. So they are in high demand. I actually sold mine for $48 a few days ago which I got for buying a 4GB 960 for my HTPC. Got mine from TD, after TD 10% off coupon and selling the game,my 4GB 960 came to around $130.52, so not too bad.
 
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SolMiester

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Anandtech isn't actually Anandtech anymore. It is someone-else tech. It is no more Anandtech than McDonalds belongs to the McDonald's. With that said, I still enjoy the community even if I do it in lurker mode as I have for about the last year. I still enjoy my PC but I keep most of my *noise* about it to a minimum around here since mostly it just invokes the trouble makers.

I would like to see the site get back to more of it's roots and slow down the moderation some.

So yah... I bet we will continue to see the site getting sluggish putting up timely reviews of the hardcore tech and more trendy things like Iphone watches.

Yes, yes and yes! VCG is like a kindergarden the way the mods lord it over everyone, it is actually off putting and has caused lots of old posters to vanish

Just like you just did.
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tviceman

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IMO, It looks bad (it IS bad) when a major tech reviewing website like here entirely drops the ball twice on consecutive key product releases by a major chip maker and was days late with another chip maker's big key release. Anandtech either needs more writers or the editor in chief needs to take on different (less) responsibility when it comes to researching & writing articles.

Sad, sad, sad. No excuses for it.
 

poofyhairguy

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Working on it.

No rush. I don't think anyone here plans to buy one. We will just use the review as evidence that Nvidia is fleecing people at those price points.

Honestly the 950 pisses me off. On any other product cycle for Nvidia right now in September should be when we get the sub-$100 cards with that HEVC decoder. But here we are and the only cheaper option that has it is a 950! ARG!

Where is the 940 (aka the 750 replacement but with the nice HEVC decoder)? Does HEVC decoding need X amount of shaders to do the job, or is Nvidia just milking the HTPC market for all it is worth? If it is the former, will we not see that HEVC decoder in a sub-$100 part until something at a 950 level is on sale for under $100?

Those are the questions I want answered. We already know what a waste the 950 is.
 

Zodiark1593

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No rush. I don't think anyone here plans to buy one. We will just use the review as evidence that Nvidia is fleecing people at those price points.

Honestly the 950 pisses me off. On any other product cycle for Nvidia right now in September should be when we get the sub-$100 cards with that HEVC decoder. But here we are and the only cheaper option that has it is a 950! ARG!

Where is the 940 (aka the 750 replacement but with the nice HEVC decoder)? Does HEVC decoding need X amount of shaders to do the job, or is Nvidia just milking the HTPC market for all it is worth? If it is the former, will we not see that HEVC decoder in a sub-$100 part until something at a 950 level is on sale for under $100?

Those are the questions I want answered. We already know what a waste the 950 is.

It's the latter, phones can decode hevc in hardware currently, though they might not be able to pull 4k 60 fps.
 

poofyhairguy

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It's the latter, phones can decode hevc in hardware currently, though they might not be able to pull 4k 60 fps.

Good point, fixed function decoders can do the job on the Nvidia Shield so technically they could do it. Traditionally through Nvidia doesn't use dedicated silicon for decoding on GPUs, it decodes via the shaders (almost like a GPU version of CPU decoding). It is part of the reason Nvidia has some of the most robust decoders on the planet. AMD has been the same way since the 6xxx series.

I was assuming the GTX 960 HEVC decoder was also using shaders instead of dedicated silicon, but I could be wrong. We don't have the Anandtech review yet for the 960 that shows us GPU usage/power consumption during decoding.

I could see Nvidia moving to dedicated decoding hardware for compatibility with mobile and just to lower power consumption. I would hate it though, because once you try to run through a video outside of the spec supported by the silicon you are screwed. I have played 4k x264 videos on my GT 740 that no fixed function decoder device I have (phone, iPad, Samsung Blu Ray player, etc.) can play.
 
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