where is the best place to buy honda atf dw-1 ?

[killster1]

going to buy 36 quarts (might need more) since i have 3 cars/suv to change the fluid on, I don't know the best place to buy but I imagine it would be instore somewhere. ANyone else recently picked up some at a decent price? i think walmart says 20$ a quart and amazon says 13

really dont want to use valvoline maxlife atf and want to use OEM dw-1.

hondaautomotiveparts.com has 36 quarts for 311$+tax it looks like. not to bad compared to dealer price of 20$ each.

 

[herm0016]

sounds like you should just buy 2 5 gal buckets of ATF. no reason to use the honda oem stuff, just get something that has the same spec.

 

[killster1]

sounds like you should just buy 2 5 gal buckets of ATF. no reason to use the honda oem stuff, just get something that has the same spec.

just said i dont want to use NON oem and your suggestion is non oem! is that your professional opinion because everyone i talk to say to use OEM unless its a emergency then to flush and replace with oem

 

[mindless1]

12 pack is $100 on Amazon... 3rd party seller tho', so savings vs risks...

https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Automatic-Transmission-Fluid-quart/dp/B01B1B2ARC

Honda doesn't make ATF, so given enough research you might find the manufacturer and whether they sell same thing under other labels.

 

[killster1]

12 pack is $100 on Amazon... 3rd party seller tho', so savings vs risks...

https://www.amazon.com/Honda-Automatic-Transmission-Fluid-quart/dp/B01B1B2ARC

Honda doesn't make ATF, so given enough research you might find the manufacturer and whether they sell same thing under other labels.

I've never had a issue buying from amazon even third party unless im risking it being a counterfeit atf product. thanks so much for the link saved 11$ is still saving 11$.

even returns amazons seems fine with 3rd party amazon has been a good help.

 

[Micrornd]

I have to ask
Have you tried your local Honda dealer?
I only paid $6.25 a quart at my local dealer.

 

[Jimzz]

"really dont want to use valvoline maxlife atf and want to use OEM dw-1. "

Why? I have used many gallons of Maxlife in many Hondas with no issues. Even held up better in the V6 vehicles. Castrol Synthetic trans fluid has worked well also.

I have a 2017 Honda V6 myself now and use aftermarket fluids for everything but the rear diff.

 

[killster1]

"really dont want to use valvoline maxlife atf and want to use OEM dw-1. "

Why? I have used many gallons of Maxlife in many Hondas with no issues. Even held up better in the V6 vehicles. Castrol Synthetic trans fluid has worked well also.

I have a 2017 Honda V6 myself now and use aftermarket fluids for everything but the rear diff.

"even held up better in the v6 vehicles" whats that mean? it didn't "hold up" very well with a 4 banger?

if i used either it would be the castrol synthetic but ill stick with the oem....

the Valvoline will shift faster and give more friction. have no idea the longevity of it, but this is my choice right? How many miles did your Hondas end up having with this fluid being used? 2017 barely should have enough miles to change for the first time right?

 

[killster1]

I have to ask
Have you tried your local Honda dealer?
I only paid $6.25 a quart at my local dealer.

11+$ a quart after i asked for discount they said 9.99 so yea they dont have a great deal and it would be a 180 mile drive.

 

[Jimzz]

"even held up better in the v6 vehicles" whats that mean? it didn't "hold up" very well with a 4 banger?

if i used either it would be the castrol synthetic but ill stick with the oem....

the Valvoline will shift faster and give more friction. have no idea the longevity of it, but this is my choice right? How many miles did your Hondas end up having with this fluid being used? 2017 barely should have enough miles to change for the first time right?

I'm a mechanic, or was-ish. So when I say I used a lot of Maxlife, and now castrol, I meant in hundreds of cars over the years. Had many customers with 200k+ on their original trans using the fluid I put in. Never an issue related to the fluid.

Nothing wrong with the newer Honda fluid other than its nothing speical and usually overpriced as you have found.
As someone else said call several dealers near you if you want "honda" fluid. Some are not major ripoffs. Not common but some dealers are pretty fair on price. Any others other than the 1 you called near you?


This comes to $7 a quart shipped for 36quarts...

4x Genuine OEM Honda DUAL Pump Fluid II (4x Quart) 08200-9007 NEW | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 4x Genuine OEM Honda DUAL Pump Fluid II (4x Quart) 08200-9007 NEW at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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[UsandThem]

just said i dont want to use NON oem and your suggestion is non oem! is that your professional opinion because everyone i talk to say to use OEM unless its a emergency then to flush and replace with oem

I used this when I changed my wife's Honda Accord ATF (and used their WS fluid when I did my Toyota's fluid). You can get it at places like NAPA, Rock Auto, and Amazon.

https://www.idemitsulubricants.com/product/atf-type-h-plus

It's a Japanese lubrication company that specializes in Japanese car fluids. It's quality stuff, and specific to your transmission (not a mass product that covers multiple transmission types like Valvoline, Castrol, etc).

If you want to use Honda branded fluids, there's nothing wrong with that (outside of the price). Just throwing this out there since I work on our cars, and it's something to consider. I've used them for coolant and transmission changes for our Japanese vehicles.

 

[killster1]

I'm a mechanic, or was-ish. So when I say I used a lot of Maxlife, and now castrol, I meant in hundreds of cars over the years. Had many customers with 200k+ on their original trans using the fluid I put in. Never an issue related to the fluid.

Nothing wrong with the newer Honda fluid other than its nothing speical and usually overpriced as you have found.
As someone else said call several dealers near you if you want "honda" fluid. Some are not major ripoffs. Not common but some dealers are pretty fair on price. Any others other than the 1 you called near you?


This comes to $7 a quart shipped for 36quarts...

4x Genuine OEM Honda DUAL Pump Fluid II (4x Quart) 08200-9007 NEW | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 4x Genuine OEM Honda DUAL Pump Fluid II (4x Quart) 08200-9007 NEW at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

after calling 5 places, from las vegas 8.75 a quart wont change the price.. to san diego who said i can get 7$ a quart (they had the price of 8.25 but i lied and said online they have it for 7 if they could do better)

so just a 5.5 (depending on traffic) hour drive and i can get it "local" thanks! !!!! i guess im going to go to seaworld / disneyland sometime soon but i kinda wanted to get this done sooner than later.

maybe i should try colorado or canada might go there eventually.
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or better yet i can drive to Oregon and get it tax free just need to plan a road trip 16+ hour drive round trip wohooo

 

[killster1]

I'm a mechanic, or was-ish. So when I say I used a lot of Maxlife, and now castrol, I meant in hundreds of cars over the years. Had many customers with 200k+ on their original trans using the fluid I put in. Never an issue related to the fluid.

Nothing wrong with the newer Honda fluid other than its nothing speical and usually overpriced as you have found.
As someone else said call several dealers near you if you want "honda" fluid. Some are not major ripoffs. Not common but some dealers are pretty fair on price. Any others other than the 1 you called near you?


This comes to $7 a quart shipped for 36quarts...

4x Genuine OEM Honda DUAL Pump Fluid II (4x Quart) 08200-9007 NEW | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 4x Genuine OEM Honda DUAL Pump Fluid II (4x Quart) 08200-9007 NEW at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

so you changed the fluid to max life then they put another 200k on the vehicle and it was fine? wowowoow sounds like a winner to me.. but i have a feeling you changed the original fluid after they used it 200k to max life and have no idea how long it lasted after or how long it would have lasted with oem.. most people dont go to the same place again especially if there was a issue.. they will just change the transmission or change the car. Im planning on giving the cars and suv away after and rather have it last as long as possible. maybe there are some real world tests i should have looked at before being so dismissive.

 

[UsandThem]

so you changed the fluid to max life then they put another 200k on the vehicle and it was fine? wowowoow sounds like a winner to me.. but i have a feeling you changed the original fluid after they used it 200k to max life and have no idea how long it lasted after or how long it would have lasted with oem.. most people dont go to the same place again especially if there was a issue.. they will just change the transmission or change the car. Im planning on giving the cars and suv away after and rather have it last as long as possible. maybe there are some real world tests i should have looked at before being so dismissive.

Many of the "top shelf" fluids for vehicles is like comparing Synthetic Mobil1 0w-20 vs. Pennzoil 0w-20. 99.99% it is pretty much the same.

That said, when it came to my car's transmissions, I wanted to use OEM spec fluid (and was less expensive than the mass product synthetic transmission fluids anyways). And I'm keeping our cars not getting rid of them, so I want them to continue to be problem free for as long as they can.

 

[Jimzz]

so you changed the fluid to max life then they put another 200k on the vehicle and it was fine? wowowoow sounds like a winner to me.. but i have a feeling you changed the original fluid after they used it 200k to max life and have no idea how long it lasted after or how long it would have lasted with oem.. most people dont go to the same place again especially if there was a issue.. they will just change the transmission or change the car. Im planning on giving the cars and suv away after and rather have it last as long as possible. maybe there are some real world tests i should have looked at before being so dismissive.

I do trans fluid changes first around 50-60k, then the 100k service. After that depends on what came out at the 100k. If it was burnt I told my customers to do 33k-ish changes, some as few as 20k due to their driving habits. If it looked good them check but as long as it still looks good then 50k-ish.
Had some pizza drivers that went from 50k to 200k pretty quick. No issues, at least related to the fluid.

The $7 a quart above is not to bad if they honor the shipping cost if you want OEM. I can get Castrol for around $5 when onsale and Maxlife gallon, 4 quarts, at walmart is $18.

 

[UsandThem]

I do trans fluid changes first around 50-60k, then the 100k service. After that depends on what came out at the 100k. If it was burnt I told my customers to do 33k-ish changes, some as few as 20k due to their driving habits. If it looked good them check but as long as it still looks good then 50k-ish.
Had some pizza drivers that went from 50k to 200k pretty quick. No issues, at least related to the fluid.

The $7 a quart above is not to bad if they honor the shipping cost if you want OEM. I can get Castrol for around $5 when onsale and Maxlife gallon, 4 quarts, at walmart is $18.

My wife's Honda was done at 60k, and the Toyota at 50k. They both could gone another year or two (my car I don't drive every day, and my wife's driving is all highway and she drives like a grandma anyways ).

Fluids still looked good, but I'm all about the preventive aspect. But the quality of all new fluids is light years over 20-30 years ago).

 

[Jimzz]

My wife's Honda was done at 60k, and the Toyota at 50k. They both could gone another year or two (my car I don't drive every day, and my wife's driving is all highway and she drives like a grandma anyways ).

Fluids still looked good, but I'm all about the preventive aspect. But the quality of all new fluids is light years over 20-30 years ago).

Yea a lot will depend on the car/trans and how its driven. AWD vehicles seem to heat the transmission up more and wear their fluid also. Had a BMW AWD car at 45k the fluid was completely burnt and black. But the next BMW I did was a rwd around 50k and fluid looked just fine. Both had the same 2.0 Turbo motor.

Had another customer who followed the "filled for life" in his ford and had to buy a new transmission at around 120k. Asked him when he changed the fluid and he said it was filled for life, what did that have to do with it. Told him, well you're kinda right. It was filled for life and the new trans has new fluid in it. He had me change the trans fluid in his wifes car right after that talk.

 

[UsandThem]

Yea a lot will depend on the car/trans and how its driven. AWD vehicles seem to heat the transmission up more and wear their fluid also. Had a BMW AWD car at 45k the fluid was completely burnt and black. But the next BMW I did was a rwd around 50k and fluid looked just fine. Both had the same 2.0 Turbo motor.

Had another customer who followed the "filled for life" in his ford and had to buy a new transmission at around 120k. Asked him when he changed the fluid and he said it was filled for life, what did that have to do with it. Told him, well you're kinda right. It was filled for life and the new trans has new fluid in it. He had me change the trans fluid in his wifes car right after that talk.

Yeah, my Toyota has a sticker on the transmission dip stick that says "Stop! Under most circumstances, this fluid never needs to be changed".

Yeah, ok. Maybe if you keep a car for under 5 years before trading in at the dealership, lol.

 

[Torn Mind]

Yea a lot will depend on the car/trans and how its driven. AWD vehicles seem to heat the transmission up more and wear their fluid also. Had a BMW AWD car at 45k the fluid was completely burnt and black. But the next BMW I did was a rwd around 50k and fluid looked just fine. Both had the same 2.0 Turbo motor.

Had another customer who followed the "filled for life" in his ford and had to buy a new transmission at around 120k. Asked him when he changed the fluid and he said it was filled for life, what did that have to do with it. Told him, well you're kinda right. It was filled for life and the new trans has new fluid in it. He had me change the trans fluid in his wifes car right after that talk.

Yeah, my Toyota has a sticker on the transmission dip stick that says "Stop! Under most circumstances, this fluid never needs to be changed".

Yeah, ok. Maybe if you keep a car for under 5 years before trading in at the dealership, lol.

Linguistic ambiguity is why they case the word lifetime. Because by instinct, people think of lifetime as lifetime of the person, an the intuitive sense is that it is 50+ years.

But in actuality, "lifetime" varies even in people if they neglect themselves. Not only that, lifetime strictly refers to the lifetime of the car, and lifetime can be shortened by fluid wear.

The actual translation of lifetime is "we, the company, want the car dead sooner so you can come back and buy another one".

 

[mindless1]

We really shouldn't lump all lifetime ATF fills together in a topic about Honda because for quite a while, Honda needed fluid changed about 3X as often to keep from burning up.

The manufacturer of the DW-1 is idemitsu, who also sells an H Plus under their label, claimed to be DW-1 equivalent but it is not the same as DW-1. Which (or Maxlife) is optimal depends on whether automatic manual or step shift type tranny.

Relevant reading comparing these three:

Three ATF's Analyzed

Three ATF's were analyzed by two labs, one a university lab and another a commercial lab to determine their elemental and chemical composition because of on-going debates about the suitability of each fluid for various applications. The three ATF's analyzed were: Genuine Honda DW-1, Valvoline...

bobistheoilguy.com

 

[evident]

I've never had a issue buying from amazon even third party unless im risking it being a counterfeit atf product. thanks so much for the link saved 11$ is still saving 11$.

even returns amazons seems fine with 3rd party amazon has been a good help.

i would be REALLY careful with 3rd party vendors with car stuff on amazon, especially if you're looking for an OE part. Tons of vendors sell counterfit denso spark plugs on there, along with some other common car maintenance parts.