where is the crappiest place in the US to live weather wise?

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Xonim

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Upstate Minnesota -

I cant think of any redeeming quality of having snow for 7-months of the year, then floods in the spring, then millions of mosquitoes in the summer.

Never been there but heard a lot of stories of misery.

It's quite accurate, though the really bad floods MOSTLY happen in the Red River valley on the western edge of the state. Everywhere else might just encounter a road closure or two in certain areas.
 

Newell Steamer

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Depends on what type of weather you like. I don't mind cold, especially during the winter (it IS winter after all).

But, I hate microclimates and submicroclimates.

San Fran pissed me off. 85 degree in the sun and you are boiling. Hit the shade and it feels like 32 degrees. So, fuck any place with microclimates.

Mark Twain once said: The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco
 

Gibsons

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Barrow Alaska - average high of -8F in January.

Death Valley average high of 116F in July. Somewhere in the southeast might have it beat because of humidity though.
 

BurnItDwn

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Michigan can have its bad spells in any particular season (lots of rain, lots of humidity, lots of snow, etc) but it usually isn't all in one year. If you have a crappy winter, the spring / summer will be a little better, etc.

Overall though, the fall season here is great pretty much every year. It's the only season I really look forward to every single year.

This year, spring can come a little earlier too, though

35+ starting next week. That's practically summer weather.

Well, I I was thinking along the lines of the coastal areas ... The UP by the lakes, and western edge of the lower peninsula...

Rain and snow is excellent. Hot weather with humidity is intolerable unless one is at the beach with fancy umbrella drinks or there are many women with bikinis.
 

pete6032

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Likely someplace like Fargo or Minneapolis.

Minneapolis is actually colder than Anchorage between December-February. And, Fargo/Minneapolis have blazingly humid summers, violent thunderstorms, blizzards, etc. Also the Mosquitos are terrible. You don't want to go out at night and sit in your yard because there's thousands of them.
 

TwiceOver

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Likely someplace like Fargo or Minneapolis.

Minneapolis is actually colder than Anchorage between December-February. And, Fargo/Minneapolis have blazingly humid summers, violent thunderstorms, blizzards, etc. Also the Mosquitos are terrible. You don't want to go out at night and sit in your yard because there's thousands of them.

Mosquitos, the Minnesota state bird.

Honestly though, I'd rather put up with mosquitos in the summer than all of the ridiculously large insects that live all year round in the south. One of the best things about the cold, keeps the insect population down.
 

TraumaRN

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Well, I I was thinking along the lines of the coastal areas ... The UP by the lakes, and western edge of the lower peninsula...

Rain and snow is excellent. Hot weather with humidity is intolerable unless one is at the beach with fancy umbrella drinks or there are many women with bikinis.

Lower Michigan is generally agreeable but there are definitely some places with nasty microclimates. Some parts of western lower peninsula can have boiling blazing summertime heat followed by 5 months of lake effect snow. The UP is outright awful IMO in the winter. The cold and sheer amounts of snow are ridiculous.

South of Detroit where I call home isn't usually as bad any time of year. Of course this winter has been hell, but we were overdue on such a bitter cold winter.
 

BurnItDwn

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Lower Michigan is generally agreeable but there are definitely some places with nasty microclimates. Some parts of western lower peninsula can have boiling blazing summertime heat followed by 5 months of lake effect snow. The UP is outright awful IMO in the winter. The cold and sheer amounts of snow are ridiculous.

South of Detroit where I call home isn't usually as bad any time of year. Of course this winter has been hell, but we were overdue on such a bitter cold winter.

I love snow

Though I don't like when more then like 3 feet or so falls at once, since it makes it very difficult to get around.
 

Carson Dyle

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Western Pennsylvania gets my vote. I lived in or around Pittsburgh for a number of years. It's the most depressing place that I've ever lived. Constantly overcast due to weather off of Lake Erie to the northwest. Snow and black ice in the winters, heat and humidity in the summers, with rain year round. But the miserable, oppressive gray skies 300+ days a year is the worst part. There are only about 10 weeks a year that I can take in that area: May to early June and most of October.
 

Newbian

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Likely someplace like Fargo or Minneapolis.

Minneapolis is actually colder than Anchorage between December-February. And, Fargo/Minneapolis have blazingly humid summers, violent thunderstorms, blizzards, etc. Also the Mosquitos are terrible. You don't want to go out at night and sit in your yard because there's thousands of them.

At least in minneapolis you don't need to go outside that much as when I lived there almost 15 years ago you could walk around the entire downtown area easily through all the walkways and such not to mention take the bus to mall of america and spend all day in it.
 

Childs

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Phoenix. I remembering it being 105 degrees at 3AM, and during the day if you went outside from an air conditioned environment you would get a headache. Memphis sucks butt as well. The humidity was crazy. I lived in rainy and snowy places as well, but heat and/or humidity just sucks. I'd hate to live in a place that has both. Add mosquitoes and I might as well be in hell.
 

HeXen

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To be fair not all had a choice back then.

I'm sure if you grow up without A/C your entire life, it wouldn't feel as bad as it does to us today. I bet they didn't even think much about the heat and they had more clothes on back then too.
 

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It's hard for me to call Phoenix the crappiest. Yeah it's 115 degrees. Yes in August it's actually humid on top of that heat. Yeah you'll melt the skin off the bottom of your feet walking outside barefoot. But it's more like 3 months of total brutality that you can still at least enjoy in a pool. And there you can walk outside for more than 30 seconds without every crevasse in your body filled with sweat.

But from October through April you some absolutely awesome weather that much of the rest of the country gets. You realistically can golf any day in that six month stretch.

In the midwest you've got like 4 months of kinda reliable weather. May & June are decent. July and August can suck a swampy ass. September & early October are usually pretty awesome. But then starting in October through March you realistically can have snow hit the ground and never see grass again until sometime in April.

Bleh.
 

Whiskey16

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Ahhh, the common display of generalised ignorance:
Alaska... snow all winter, mosquitos all spring/summer.
Absolutely not. There are long expanses of coastal regions that experience less time at freezing temperatures, snowfall, and far fewer mosquitos and black flies than many populated centres in the remaining continental US states.

You are talking about a massive region, extending roughly 1145mi from the most northern to southern point.
 

bobeedee

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Worcester MA has to be up there as a crappy place weather wise. Snow snow and more snow in the winter, tornadoes and severe t-storms in the spring and summer.
 

shortylickens

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Worcester MA has to be up there as a crappy place weather wise. Snow snow and more snow in the winter, tornadoes and severe t-storms in the spring and summer.

If Youtube is any indication those people get harassed by cops all the time.
 

kage69

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Cool, that is only about 3000 feet lower than my base camp when I took this picture:

Barometric altimeter, so that is why it says 13172 max...
It was kind of windy up there.


Elevation will have the obvious effect on oxygen and temperature, but I'm not sure it's a yardstick for inclement weather. It certainly doesn't mean as much when you're smack dab in the middle of a confluence of 3 individual storm tracks, as Mt. Washington is. I think what Death Valley is to heat, Mt. Washington is to shitty weather and wind.

From my old house in Maine I could see Washington on a clear day. Friends visiting from out of state would always want to go see it, so I've been there a few times. Those guys at the observatory put up with some shit. The wind is amazing, and when you add that to the normal kind of ice and snow the area gets in winter? Damn nasty stuff.
 

raasco

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Lower Michigan is generally agreeable but there are definitely some places with nasty microclimates. Some parts of western lower peninsula can have boiling blazing summertime heat followed by 5 months of lake effect snow. The UP is outright awful IMO in the winter. The cold and sheer amounts of snow are ridiculous.

South of Detroit where I call home isn't usually as bad any time of year. Of course this winter has been hell, but we were overdue on such a bitter cold winter.

And stay out of my U.P.
 
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