Where is the Muslim Outrage??

ValkyrieofHouston

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I found this posted on another board and thought I would share it here.

Muslims, Tigers and Bears OH MY!

We wake up this morning to see video on CNN showing rampaging Muslims
around the world. In Europe, the Middle East, the Pacific Rim ... Muslim
Mobs spreading mayhem. It seems that these mighty mad Muslims are rioting
and firing their ever-present AK-47s into the air because of cartoons. Yup
... this latest epidemic of Muslim outrage comes to us because some
newspapers in Norway and Denmark published some cartoons depicting
Mohammed. In fact ... here is one of my favorites!

Admit it, this turban/bomb thing could be the next big fashion hit on the
Muslim street!

Muslim outrage huh. OK ... let's do a little historical review. Just some
lowlights:

* Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York
City. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to
escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to
school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No
Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and
hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage.
* A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills
six. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan,
Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage.
* Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich
Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children
in Israel. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways
and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim
outrage.
* Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage
* Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one
of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage.
* Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their
shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage.
* Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting
Mohammed. Muslims are outraged.

Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and
nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of
Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed
with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.

Come on, is this really about cartoons? They're rampaging and burning
flags. They're looking for Europeans to kidnap. They're threatening
innkeepers and generally raising holy Muslim hell not because of any
outrage over a cartoon. They're outraged because it is part of the Islamic
jihadist culture to be outraged. You don't really need a reason. You just
need an excuse. Wandering around, destroying property, murdering children,
firing guns into the air and feigning outrage over the slightest perceived
insult is to a jihadist what tailgating is to a Steeler's fan.

I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent
the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become
outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the
radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and
ridicule? Islamic writer Salman Rushdie wrote of these silent Muslims in
a New York Times article three years ago. "As their ancient, deeply
civilized culture of love, art and philosophical reflection is hijacked by
paranoiacs, racists, liars, male supremacists, tyrants, fanatics and
violence junkies, why are they not screaming?"




Cheers!
Kylie SD

 

Polish3d

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Their moderation extends to protesting here as well (maybe), but its a legitimate point, they do need to step in more perhaps.

In fact, countering these demonstrations with a PEACEFUL counter-demonstration would be a great idea, and the media would love it.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: Frackal
In fact, countering these demonstrations with a PEACEFUL counter-demonstration would be a great idea, and the media would love it.

Like that would ever happen...
 

Rainsford

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I think part of the problem is that many Muslims are reluctant to turn their backs on their fellow Muslims in favor of people who, as a whole, they don't like or trust. We have about zero credibility with most of the world's Muslims, and I mean we as western society as a whole. I suspect that before long we'll see Muslims standing up to the fanatics, but I think we're making it harder for them to do so. We see ourselves as the good guys, but I'm not sure moderate Muslims view us that way. We might be better than Osama bin Laden, but that's not saying much, and it's hard for anyone to go against their religious and cultural "family", especially when the other side is a bunch of people they don't especially like.

It will happen, because I think most Muslims will come to the conclusion that allowing Osama and friends to dictate the direction of the Muslim world and culture would be a huge mistake, but I'm not really surprised we haven't seen a lot of examples of outrage. I'm sure it's there, in private, with the vast majority of Muslims, but the fact that WE are the other side probably isn't making it any easier.
 

Balt

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If you become an "Uncle Tom" Muslim in the places where this absurdity is taking place, you would no doubt become a victim of the violence yourself.

These cultures are not open to opposing opinions.
 

Rainsford

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Originally posted by: Balt
If you become an "Uncle Tom" Muslim in the places where this absurdity is taking place, you would no doubt become a victim of the violence yourself.

These cultures are not open to opposing opinions.

That too...
 

Red Dawn

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Wonder why you don't see them rioting in Tulsa, Boston, New York, LA or even Deerborn?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent
the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become
outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the
radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and
ridicule?

So according to you, a Muslim does not care unless he takes to the streets and parades around, showing his anger against something? You make it sound like unless you see visual confirmation of all Muslims taking it to the streets, they don't care. Furthermore you assume they didn't care about all the events just because you don't have their signature on file expressing outrage, or because you lack video footage of them on the streets protesting it.

If you're holding everyone to the same standard, what % of the US population paraded around the streets showing their outrage for 9/11? I guess not many of the 300 million Americans cared, according to you, because the only way to show outrage is taking to the streets.

What is more likely: you're talking out your ass, copying and pasting "No Muslim outrage" after every event you choose, knowing that your claim cannot be confirmed nor denied without a formal survey of 1.3 billion people.

BTW, just for sh1ts and giggles, add up all the dead from every act of terrorism, violent protests, or violation of human rights in your post and let us know how close that number comes to 28,427.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston
I know and understand that these bloodthirsty murderers do not represent
the majority of the world's Muslims. When, though, do they become
outraged? When do they take to the streets to express their outrage at the
radicals who are making their religion the object of worldwide hatred and
ridicule?

So according to you, a Muslim does not care unless he takes to the streets and parades around, showing his anger against something? You make it sound like unless you see visual confirmation of all Muslims taking it to the streets, they don't care. Furthermore you assume they didn't care about all the events just because you don't have their signature on file expressing outrage, or because you lack video footage of them on the streets protesting it.

If you're holding everyone to the same standard, what % of the US population paraded around the streets showing their outrage for 9/11? I guess not many of the 300 million Americans cared, according to you, because the only way to show outrage is taking to the streets.

What is more likely: you're talking out your ass, copying and pasting "No Muslim outrage" after every event you choose, knowing that your claim cannot be confirmed nor denied without a formal survey of 1.3 billion people.

BTW, just for sh1ts and giggles, add up all the dead from every act of terrorism, violent protests, or violation of human rights in your post and let us know how close that number comes to 28,427.

We didn't protest in outrage ....we put up flags or did you forget that for a brief moment in time America became Red White and Blue again?
 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
We didn't protest in outrage ....we put up flags or did you forget that for a brief moment in time America became Red White and Blue again?
Oh yes, and the infamous magnetic ribbons. Nothing says outrage like some cheap Chinese goods plastered on your automobile.
 

StormRider

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Wonder why you don't see them rioting in Tulsa, Boston, New York, LA or even Deerborn?


Maybe the farther you are away from the birthplace of Islam, the closer your are to true Islam?
 

imported_Condor

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Originally posted by: Rainsford
I think part of the problem is that many Muslims are reluctant to turn their backs on their fellow Muslims in favor of people who, as a whole, they don't like or trust. We have about zero credibility with most of the world's Muslims, and I mean we as western society as a whole. I suspect that before long we'll see Muslims standing up to the fanatics, but I think we're making it harder for them to do so. We see ourselves as the good guys, but I'm not sure moderate Muslims view us that way. We might be better than Osama bin Laden, but that's not saying much, and it's hard for anyone to go against their religious and cultural "family", especially when the other side is a bunch of people they don't especially like.

It will happen, because I think most Muslims will come to the conclusion that allowing Osama and friends to dictate the direction of the Muslim world and culture would be a huge mistake, but I'm not really surprised we haven't seen a lot of examples of outrage. I'm sure it's there, in private, with the vast majority of Muslims, but the fact that WE are the other side probably isn't making it any easier.
Not only that, but the lunatics are gaining the support of certain pansey assed groups in the western world who are eager to debate on their side and excuse their every atrocity with postings such as:


I think part of the problem is that many Muslims are reluctant to turn their backs on their fellow Muslims in favor of people who, as a whole, they don't like or trust. We have about zero credibility with most of the world's Muslims, and I mean we as western society as a whole. I suspect that before long we'll see Muslims standing up to the fanatics, but I think we're making it harder for them to do so. We see ourselves as the good guys, but I'm not sure moderate Muslims view us that way. We might be better than Osama bin Laden, but that's not saying much, and it's hard for anyone to go against their religious and cultural "family", especially when the other side is a bunch of people they don't especially like.

It will happen, because I think most Muslims will come to the conclusion that allowing Osama and friends to dictate the direction of the Muslim world and culture would be a huge mistake, but I'm not really surprised we haven't seen a lot of examples of outrage. I'm sure it's there, in private, with the vast majority of Muslims, but the fact that WE are the other side probably isn't making it any easier.And:

So according to you, a Muslim does not care unless he takes to the streets and parades around, showing his anger against something? You make it sound like unless you see visual confirmation of all Muslims taking it to the streets, they don't care. Furthermore you assume they didn't care about all the events just because you don't have their signature on file expressing outrage, or because you lack video footage of them on the streets protesting it.

If you're holding everyone to the same standard, what % of the US population paraded around the streets showing their outrage for 9/11? I guess not many of the 300 million Americans cared, according to you, because the only way to show outrage is taking to the streets.

What is more likely: you're talking out your ass, copying and pasting "No Muslim outrage" after every event you choose, knowing that your claim cannot be confirmed nor denied without a formal survey of 1.3 billion people.

BTW, just for sh1ts and giggles, add up all the dead from every act of terrorism, violent protests, or violation of human rights in your post and let us know how close that number comes to 28,427.

And: Oh yes, and the infamous magnetic ribbons. Nothing says outrage like some cheap Chinese goods plastered on your automobile.

Yet we have those who would sneak in the night and steal even those weak magnetic symbols of protest. Those are the lowest of the low!

 

jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Condor
Not only that, but the lunatics are gaining the support of certain pansey assed groups in the western world who are eager to debate on their side and excuse their every atrocity with postings such as:

I saw this huge post, and I thought for certain you had provided some credible argument for your side. Instead, all we got was one sentence, one insult, and a whole lot of quoted material. Actually, it isn't that surprising, as there is little material to provide on your side of the argument.

BTW, just for sh1ts and giggles, add up all the dead from every act of terrorism, violent protests, or violation of human rights in your post and let us know how close that number comes to 28,427.

So why are you guys so easily "excusing every atrocity" in Iraq? Where is the outrage for tens of thousands of dead Iraqis? You seem more interested in talking about a dozen killed in a protest versus 30,000 killed in a war.
 

Meuge

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That's cause there is a huge difference between being killed in a war, and being killed by a rampaging crowd. If you don't understand the difference, you don't belong in the modern world. Goodbye.
 

IdioticBuffoon

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I agree that there is not enough vocal condemnation by Moslems when their extremist apostates commit these inhumane acts.

 

beer

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It's OK. They'll storm an embassy and we'll have a Rules of Engagement-type scenario and the whole world will be just peachy from then onwards.
 

envy me

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Your statements are very generalized.
for example:

Saying Muslims crashed into the world trade center is exactly like say Catholics rape young boys.

(some priests did it)

You shouldn't generalize.

 

dexvx

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Originally posted by: envy me
Your statements are very generalized.
for example:

Saying Muslims crashed into the world trade center is exactly like say Catholics rape young boys.

(some priests did it)

You shouldn't generalize.

No.

Muslims DID crash a plane into the world trade center. All 19 hijackers were Muslim. There are no incidents of Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Taoist, Daoist, etc etc crashing jetliners into skyscrapers. Therefore that generalization is true.

Some Catholic priests raped young boys. However, not all people raping young boys are Catholics. Therefore that generalization is false.
 

Polish3d

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The morons just tried to storm the US embassy in Indonesia over the cartoons... cause of course, we really had a lot to do with it :disgust:
 

envy me

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Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: envy me
Your statements are very generalized.
for example:

Saying Muslims crashed into the world trade center is exactly like say Catholic Priests rape young boys at church.


You shouldn't generalize.

No.

Muslims DID crash a plane into the world trade center. All 19 hijackers were Muslim. There are no incidents of Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Taoist, Daoist, etc etc crashing jetliners into skyscrapers. Therefore that generalization is true.

Some Catholic priests raped young boys. However, not all people raping young boys are Catholics. Therefore that generalization is false.


there fixed.

No record of muslims or jews raping boys at church.


 
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Muslim outrage against their own terror resides in the same place American outrage against our own terror resides: the hardened nationalistic heart.
Though I will say American opposition to our own terror seems to be much louder than the Muslim equivalent unfortunately.
Moderate-to-liberal minded Muslims better start getting loud if they hope to avoid the 'clash of civilizations' the extremists on both sides are trying so hard to cultivate.

Edit: my last observation is from the viewpoint I recieve from Western media... this is not to say the opposition isn't there... but it doesn't yet seem loud enough to force the issue into Western media
 

MegaWorks

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Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: envy me
Your statements are very generalized.
for example:

Saying Muslims crashed into the world trade center is exactly like say Catholics rape young boys.

(some priests did it)

You shouldn't generalize.

No.

Muslims DID crash a plane into the world trade center. All 19 hijackers were Muslim. There are no incidents of Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Taoist, Daoist, etc etc crashing jetliners into skyscrapers. Therefore that generalization is true.

Some Catholic priests raped young boys. However, not all people raping young boys are Catholics. Therefore that generalization is false.

So according to you as a Muslim I'm responsible for the crimes of Al-qaeda even if I don't support them or agree with their ideology. So that makes me a terrorist because I'm Muslim right? What don't you create a concentration camp a start a Holocaust against us?

Unbelievable!
 

spunkz

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
We didn't protest in outrage ....we put up flags or did you forget that for a brief moment in time America became Red White and Blue again?
Oh yes, and the infamous magnetic ribbons. Nothing says outrage like some cheap Chinese goods plastered on your automobile.

oh we weren't outraged after 9/11. we only went to WAR....
 

Polish3d

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Originally posted by: MegaWorks
Originally posted by: dexvx
Originally posted by: envy me
Your statements are very generalized.
for example:

Saying Muslims crashed into the world trade center is exactly like say Catholics rape young boys.

(some priests did it)

You shouldn't generalize.

No.

Muslims DID crash a plane into the world trade center. All 19 hijackers were Muslim. There are no incidents of Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Taoist, Daoist, etc etc crashing jetliners into skyscrapers. Therefore that generalization is true.

Some Catholic priests raped young boys. However, not all people raping young boys are Catholics. Therefore that generalization is false.

So according to you as a Muslim I'm responsible for the crimes of Al-qaeda even if I don't support them or agree with their ideology. So that makes me a terrorist because I'm Muslim right? What don't you create a concentration camp a start a Holocaust against us?

Unbelievable!

Strawman

 
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