where would you build a zombie survival compound?

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Gooberlx2

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BTW how long can zombies survive for?

Indefinitely...or rather, until the rotting process takes its toll. Wherever I was, I'd definitely make a moat and fill it with detritus eating scavengers, like crabs and alligators.

So maybe a place far north, with a moat filled with cold tolerating crustaceans. If the fuckers don't freeze solid, the pincers will get them! Muahahaha!
 
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mwmorph

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Fort Hood, TX or Fort Benning, GA. Plenty of personnel that know how to operate weapons, defend the area, and a extremely large supply of ammo.

Zombies may be scary, but they wont compare to entire divisions of Mechanized Infantry or the 75th Rangers.

Also you'd be above ground and with some of your generously donated funds, could easily be made self sustainable.
 

Ruptga

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Fort Hood, TX or Fort Benning, GA. Plenty of personnel that know how to operate weapons, defend the area, and a extremely large supply of ammo.

Zombies may be scary, but they wont compare to entire divisions of Mechanized Infantry or the 75th Rangers.

Also you'd be above ground and with some of your generously donated funds, could easily be made self sustainable.

That may be true, but not when ~95% of them are zombies too. In reality, the only reliable plan in case of a zombie outbreak is to die. Even if you're well prepared against physical attack, unless you're on the ISS you're probably going to be exposed to the pathogen (or whatever) and you're probably not going to be immune.
 

Draftee

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To be truly nerdy, it'd have to be Lagrangian point 1. Points 3,4 & 5 are also a possibility, but not as practical.
 

Zebo

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Jul 29, 2001
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Modelworks - Nothing depressing about UG it's very peaceful.... no noise whatsoever. It's shocking how loud world is even in the middle of nowhere. Then 59F year round. So no need for heat or AC with reasonable clothing.

Atlas F silo has over 25,000 sqft on all it's floors. About 9 floors.
Titan complexes have over 60,000 sqft with mile long tunnels to get your run on.

Have you even been in a 25,000 sq ft house? You get lost, endless space.

No I'm afraid I'll take a silo if SHTF. You never know the powers that be might decide to end it, after all they have 100 yr living space UG so they can end it and emerge to Eden without all the riff raff. What are you going to do about neutron bombs going off?



 
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guyver01

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A place already exists.

Norwegian island of Spitsbergen in the remote Arctic Svalbard archipelago

They were even nice enough to build us a bunker.



many people know this place as the Svalbard Global Seed Vault.

The seedbank is constructed 120 metres (390 ft) inside a sandstone mountain at Svalbard on Spitsbergen Island. The bank employs a number of robust security systems.

Spitsbergen was considered ideal due to its lack of tectonic activity and its permafrost, which will aid preservation. The location 130 metres (430 ft) above sea level will ensure that the site remains dry even if the icecaps melt. Locally mined coal provides power for refrigeration units that further cool the seeds to the internationally-recommended standard −18 °C (0 °F). Even if the equipment fails, at least several weeks will elapse before the temperature rises to the −3 °C (27 °F) of the surrounding sandstone bedrock.
 

Sea Moose

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On the moon!

Air might be a problem, but loads of cheese to eat!

The moon is made of cheese right?
 

Zebo

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Exactly what I was thinking. Critical things like water pumps and oxygen exchangers would all be housed in the main complex, which would be surrounded by a lot of concrete and earth. Didn't know that about the silos though, I could definitely utilize that. I'd have to rethink the natural energy thing, good call on that. I don't want to rely solely on diesel, but I don't want to stand out either.

Diesel will last you 10 years filling up half a silo with diesel (60,000 gal) and assuming normal household load of 18,000 Kwatt per year. If you don't want a fire I'd suggest diesel. Course you'd use less in some areas more in more. Your intermittently operated O2 exchanger and water purification system would use a lot but unless there's a nuclear war you don't have to shut outside air off from command module and even so that's temporary but at least o2 exchanger is there for back up. Water and waste needs to be boiled (then condensed) which is high powered operation but even so a normal house does that all day on a ridiculous 50 gal. I bet you use way less than 18,000 Kwatt/yr just playing Call of Duty all day.

Nuke is the only way to last a lifetime and they won't let joe six pack have nukes.
 
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K1052

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Diesel will last you 10 years filling up half a silo with diesel (60,000 gal) and assuming normal household load of 18,000 Kwatt per year. If you don't want a fire I'd suggest diesel. Course you'd use less in some areas more in more. Your intermittently operated O2 exchanger and water purification system would use a lot but unless there's a nuclear war you don't have to shut outside air off from command module and even so that's temporary but at least o2 exchanger is there for back up. Water and waste needs to be boiled (then condensed) which is high powered operation but even so a normal house does that all day on a ridiculous 50 gal. I bet you use way less than 18,000 Kwatt/yr just playing Call of Duty all day.

Nuke is the only way to last a lifetime and they won't let joe six pack have nukes.

Probably better off covering a topside structure with solar panels (unobtrusively) and building a battery room. Under steady thermal conditions lead-acid should last 8-10 years before you need to rebuild the cells (which isn't that hard).
 

Key West

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I embarked on a xcountry road trip last year.

I realized how vast and fucking empty USA is outside of handful of cities. I drove I-10W from San Antonio to El Paso, TX.

Absolutely fucking NOTHING there. Nothing, nothing, nothing but desert. You can live out here alone or even in a small town with hundreds of people without even knowing there was ever a zombie outbreak in rest of the world.
 

damocles

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Oct 9, 1999
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Somewhere in New Zealand's South island. Sheep can't get the zombie virus...

or can they?
 

preslove

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Sep 10, 2003
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Missile Silo with wind farm for power, sheep & cattle on the topside for protein, & hydroponics in the silo for veggies. I would set up a pretty intense defensive network of remote controlled mini-guns, long range rifles, & claymores that I could control via a video connection.

I don't think the wind farm would attract zombies. Zombies are dumb.
 

BurnItDwn

Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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I haven't staked out exactly where, but Ideally, it would be some place just south of the tundra of Alaska or Canada, on a small hill / plateau. It would also be within walking distance of the sea.

The property would have a dual layer 16 foot tall reenforced barbed wire fence built around the perimeter (would for around 25 acres, or just over about 1000x1000 feet) There would be gates with gatehouses along 2 sides. One of them along the side facing the sea, and the other along any one of the other 3 sides. I would have the forest clear cut clear cut the forest for 200 feet between the fence, and it's outer perimeter (to make spotting zombies as they approach the fence easier)

Within this 25 acre zombie free zone, There would be a large vegetable garden, about 3-4 acres worth (it's a short growing season, and the soil isn't great, but the extremely long arctic days are supposed to produce enourmous cabbages and zucchini.) There would be an Apple orchard with about 100 trees. Inside those walls, I would build my inner wall about 150 feet by 300 feet, with towers at the corners, and along the center of the 300 foot wall sections. The inner wall would be 50 feet high and made of steel reinforced concrete, and 6 feet thick. Within this inner area, I would have my keep, it would be 150 feet by 30 feet in size. The keep would contain a 5 story stone building. The topmost floor would be used for housing. The first 4 floors would contain storage. Within this storage would be vast stockpiles of raw materials, food stores, fuel stores, tools, backup tools, backups for backup tools, weapons, backup weapons, backups for backup weapons, hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo, and just about everything you'd find on a farm, in a shed, in a garage, or in a workshop....

Above the roof of the keep would be the greenhouse. It would be a steel structure with 3 seperate layers of glass windows with an inch between the glass. This would provide a very high R value of insulation, which would help it to stay warm. The rooftop greenhouse would be used to grow mostly cereal crops, as they are otherwise next to impossible to grow that far north, and they can provide very high "calories per acre" of food density ... enough such that if the fruit and vegetables all fail, and expeditions to the sea to fish or to try to hunt fail, there would still be something to eat, hopefully enough to sustain life....

For "power", there would be several solar arrays, several very durable windmills, and a coal fired boiler. There would be several seperate coal sheds on the property, 2 smallish shedswithin the inner wall, and several outside it ....

Split up and kept at a distance such that if one were to ignite/explode, it would nod destroy the keep, the greenhouse, the walls, and they would not interfere with each other. The coal would be conserved, and used sparingly, wood would be the fuel of choice due to the forest....

I would limit the population of my compound to about 25 people initially, any more than that, and the risk of starvation would be too high, any less than that, and there would be too much risk of not enough people to keep the place secure and maintained....
 

Crono

Lifer
Aug 8, 2001
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Masada



300ft - 1,300ft cliffs, 1 ramp leading up to it, 1 cable car going down.
Ancient cisterns still exist, and modern facilities, ample food storage, and fortifications could be built there. About 2 hours from Jerusalem, if I need to get supplies later or weapons (tons of weapons in Jerusalem...probably only a few places in Texas have more, lol). Ancient Jerusalem itself was pretty much Minas Tirith, so if I was bazillionaire rich, I would just fortify the entire city...and hope I don't get attacked by Nazgûl

It's on the edge of the Judean desert, and the IDF uses it for its ceremonies.

Only issue is whether Israel would let me build there... though I guess I could hide supplies and weapons in nearby area and move in shortly after zombie outbreak.
Might have to compete (or join up with, could go either way) other hardened and well armed groups in the area. Some of the toughest people on the planet call Israel home.

Petra

Another ancient site, located in Jordan (video on it here: http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2058538&highlight=petra)



Has it's own ancient water supply system as well as cisterns. Entrance is by a narrow gorge, easily defended or blocked if needed.

Plenty of spots for additional fortifications, natural lookout/sniping points, underground passages and storage areas. Could easily set up an entire city there if needed.
 
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nageov3t

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I wonder, what would it take to build a self-sustaining man made lake filled with fish that could feed an average-sized family in perpetuity (or at least meet their protein needs so that they don't get malnourished).

given the resources to set it up, it seems like it'd be easier to manage than common livestock.
 

Brovane

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Dec 18, 2001
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I would buy a large shelter from these guys.

http://www.bomb-shelter.net/products.html

http://www.bomb-shelter.net/trogonia 8.html - Maybe something like this if I had a lot of money.

Buy 30-year supply of nitrogen packed food from Mountain house foods for everyone that would be there with me.

If possible i would would a nuclear reactor-battery design like this -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toshiba_4S

If not a lot of diesel fuel.

Also you would want to take enough people so you could be comfortable. So a couple of doctors, dentists, mechanic's etc.
 
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