Wheres my rent check!?! Updated Daily!

[TangoJuliet]

They're less than a year old. How long have you been there?

What's less than a year old? We've been in this house for 9 months

 

[highland145]

What's less than a year old? We've been in this house for 9 months

..

 

[Lifted]

Tango, the only relevant info here is

He signed the back of the check.

End of story. If he lost it after that, that's his problem. After all the shit he's put your through, I'd tell him to take a hike. He lied about receiving the check, and he's a shitty LL.

As for Alky's idea that you are somehow still liable for paying this man, again...

 

[JDawg1536]

Tango, the only relevant info here is

He signed the back of the check.

End of story. If he lost it after that, that's his problem. After all the shit he's put your through, I'd tell him to take a hike. He lied about receiving the check, and he's a shitty LL.

As for Alky's idea that you are somehow still liable for paying this man, again...

^ Truth. I'd ignore him.

 

[Eli]

Epic thread. Watching for updates.

 

[OutHouse]

he wants you to sign a fraud report that he wrote???? fuck that.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Ok, so there are 3 banks involved - Citi (mine), HSBC (his) and Chase (???). Should I call Chase and tell them that a check I wrote to someone got deposited into a account that is not his? That really sounds like something the LL should be doing, right??

How is this a question, ask the LL to do all the work.

This ^^.

He takes a copy of the check and goes to Chase until Chase provides an answer on how/why they deposited the check

 

[alkemyst]

^ Truth. I'd ignore him.

You really believe is a person lost a check you gave them, you are no longer responsible for payment?

Good luck with that.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

He signed the back of the check.

^ Truth. I'd ignore him.

You really believe is a person lost a check you gave them, you are no longer responsible for payment?

Good luck with that.

Lawlz.

100% ignore acknowledgment of receipt of check and proof of endorsement for the troll.

Keep'm coming, your constant thoughtless fail is keeping this thread squarely inside "lawlzy".

 

[alkemyst]

Lawlz.

100% ignore acknowledgment of receipt of check and proof of endorsement for the troll.

Keep'm coming, your constant thoughtless fail is keeping this thread squarely inside "lawlzy".

Like I said, good luck if it ended up in a court room.

Like the idiots that think a $1000 mis-directed deposit is their's because it was in their accounts. People argue that all the time.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Like I said, good luck if it ended up in a court room.

Like the idiots that think a $1000 mis-directed deposit is their's because it was in their accounts. People argue that all the time.

"People" do argue mis-direction all the time, don't they?

 

[TangoJuliet]

Sorry for the delay in updates....I had posted some personal information which I edited. Google search results were still showing that information even though it was edited. I had the cache cleared and its now gone so I can continue with the updates.

3/14 3pm Update

So I asked the LL directly this question

Me: Chris. I was told to ask you some questions. Did your wife, a family friend, relative or anyone else you may know deposit that check? If that is a no then do you suspect anyone to have made the deposit? Does your wife, friend, relative or anyone else you know have a Chase account? Have you called chase and explained that a check with your name and account number was deposited at their bank and did not go into your account?

I did not hear anything from him for a couple hours so I sent him a message asking if he got my last message

Me: (5 hours later, 8pm) Did you get my last message?

I get up early for work so I went to bed at 9 and still did not hear anything at that time.

Update 3/15

I woke up this morning with a couple messages from the LL

10:30pm

LL: No just seeing this now. Last message before this was yesterday at 4:01

So, I'm guessing he saw the message and consulted someone as how to reply and basically asked me to send it again. I get up at 3am so I wanted to wait until at least 9am before I message someone (I try to be courteous).

LL (8:20am): Are we still good for 3:00. If you want to call S&S and get the oil price difference, I will bring a check for difference.

Me: This is the message I sent you yesterday. I need to know these answers prior to going to the bank today. (Sent same message as the one sent at 3pm yesterday)

LL: Nobody I know deposited the check. I called chase and explained the situation. They said Citi had to initiate getting the funds back. They wouldn't really give me much info

So that solves the question as to if his wife cashed the check. She did not. She lost the check and someone else deposited it. There was no bank error. The LL was irresponsible with the check after receiving it and wants me to help him get the money back.

I already spoke with the bank and police and they said I am not responsible for anything if this was the case. What I am doing now is helping him recover his money. Like I said prior, I feel bad that he lost the check but I'm not going to jump through hoops for the guy. He lied and throughout the entire time renting he hasn't given us a break with anything. So I sent him this message

Me: ok, i do have some issues left. this person who found the check has access to my wife's and my name, our address and our checking account number and bank. for your carelessness could you purchase a year subscription of identity guard to protect us from any identity theft? Second, for the countless hours I spent on the phone with my bank and the time I had to take off of work would you pay the entire differential in oil for this month? Lastly, the weather isnt supposed to be less then 40 degrees for the next 2 weeks. Could you seed the backyard so we can start to use the playground?

LL: I will look into the identity protection. That seems fair. Not sure of cost. Seed will be done in next few weeks for sure. Most likely this weekend. Oil has nothing to do with this situation so no changes there.

Me: The identity protection is for the lost check. The oil is for the time wasted trying to help you recover your funds. The backyard repair is from the collapsed cesspool.

I sent him a screenshot of the local 10 day forecast. I also calculated the total for his part of the oil bill which was less then $100. I did not hear a response from him so I sent him this message

Me: I have a doctor's appointment at 130. Depending on how long it takes I may or may not be able to make it to the bank today. I will let you know by 2 if I will be able to make it.

Still no response from the LL

 

[Ketchup]

"So that solves the question as to if his wife cashed the check. She did not."

You caught him in a lie on page one. Why do you believe anything this guy says?

 

[TangoJuliet]

"So that solves the question as to if his wife cashed the check. She did not."

You caught him in a lie on page one. Why do you believe anything this guy says?

Well, I have him in writing that he has no knowledge of anyone he knows that could have deposited the check. After he fills out the police paperwork and the bank does the investigation if it turns out that it was any of those people listed he will have some legal issues to deal with.

 

[Ketchup]

Well, I have him in writing that he has no knowledge of anyone he knows that could have deposited the check. After he fills out the police paperwork and the bank does the investigation if it turns out that it was any of those people listed he will have some legal issues to deal with.

Yeah, if he is reasonably intelligent that should be enough to keep him in line. I still don't like the fact that he hasn't just come out and said what happened (lost the check). He is still being deceptive, which is why I don't like/trust him after reading this thread. But of course, you know the guy.

 

[Delita]

I'm not sure why there is so much argument on responsibility of the check. Tango provided the check to the land lord, which was verified, and therefore he has fulfilled his obligation. After the land lord received the check and signed it, the check became bearer paper and whoever holds it has the right to it. It sounds like they signed it, lost it (which is mind blowingly stupid. never presign your checks before deposit) and someone found it and deposited it in their own account.

 

[highland145]

I'm not sure why there is so much argument on responsibility of the check. Tango provided the check to the land lord, which was verified, and therefore he has fulfilled his obligation. After the land lord received the check and signed it, the check became bearer paper and whoever holds it has the right to it. It sounds like they signed it, lost it (which is mind blowingly stupid. never presign your checks before deposit) and someone found it and deposited it in their own account.

We were bored.:|

And warped:awe:

 

[TangoJuliet]

Wow, these follow up messages are great

Me: Life Lock is $275, Identity Guard is $225 and Identity Force is $225. Let me know what you want to do.

LL: K let me look into. Life lock is $110 for the year. There premium service is $275 which gives you daily access to your credit score. This person does not have your social security # to open credit in your name. You will still be guaranteed up to $1,000,000 in protection.

Me: The regular lifelock service will not alert me if new checking or savings accounts are opened. It also scans for changes to contact info on existing checking and savings accounts. Sorry I will need the ultimate service

LL: And lifelong will reimburse you for any damages suffered. Bank accounts cannot be opened without social security number.

Me: http://www.fairloanrate.com/2009/03...k-account-without-social-security-number-ssn/

Me: Seems like you can

LL: I don't know what that is supposed to say. I'll pay for the $110 one. It protects you against any damages. That is the point. I am not paying so you can monitor your credit

Me: The ultimate service will scan for changes to contact info on existing checking and savings accounts. The $110 service will not. Since you are familiar with the lingo you can look this one up. Under the Code of Federal Regulations, under Title 26 CFR 301.6109-1 (c), banks are not legally required to acquire SSNs from all their applicants.

 

[TangoJuliet]

I'm not sure why there is so much argument on responsibility of the check. Tango provided the check to the land lord, which was verified, and therefore he has fulfilled his obligation. After the land lord received the check and signed it, the check became bearer paper and whoever holds it has the right to it. It sounds like they signed it, lost it (which is mind blowingly stupid. never presign your checks before deposit) and someone found it and deposited it in their own account.

This is exactly the case. I have 2 sources (bank, police) telling me that my obligation to the LL has been satisfied. What we are doing right now is recovery of the funds which is NOT my obligation.

I made a request to the LL to compensate me for my time wasted and any future help. He is now trying to bargain and make counter offers with me. At this point I really don't care what he decides. He can find his own way to recover his money or he can compensate me, save time, aggravation and get his money back fast.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Wow, these follow up messages are great

Me: Life Lock is $275, Identity Guard is $225 and Identity Force is $225. Let me know what you want to do.

LL: K let me look into. Life lock is $110 for the year. There premium service is $275 which gives you daily access to your credit score. This person does not have your social security # to open credit in your name. You will still be guaranteed up to $1,000,000 in protection.

Me: The regular lifelock service will not alert me if new checking or savings accounts are opened. It also scans for changes to contact info on existing checking and savings accounts. Sorry I will need the ultimate service

LL: And lifelong will reimburse you for any damages suffered. Bank accounts cannot be opened without social security number.

Me: http://www.fairloanrate.com/2009/03...k-account-without-social-security-number-ssn/

Me: Seems like you can

LL: I don't know what that is supposed to say. I'll pay for the $110 one. It protects you against any damages. That is the point. I am not paying so you can monitor your credit

Me: The ultimate service will scan for changes to contact info on existing checking and savings accounts. The $110 service will not. Since you are familiar with the lingo you can look this one up. Under the Code of Federal Regulations, under Title 26 CFR 301.6109-1 (c), banks are not legally required to acquire SSNs from all their applicants.

I'm starting to think that you want to keep doing the leg work for him so as to give you more leverage for compensation.

BTW, I know having sensitive information stolen sucks, but if you think about it, how many thousands of people have that same info? Any time you use a check, who knows how many people could copy down your name, address, bank #/routing #.

 

[Schfifty Five]

This is exactly the case. I have 2 sources (bank, police) telling me that my obligation to the LL has been satisfied. What we are doing right now is recovery of the funds which is NOT my obligation.

I made a request to the LL to compensate me for my time wasted and any future help. He is now trying to bargain and make counter offers with me. At this point I really don't care what he decides. He can find his own way to recover his money or he can compensate me, save time, aggravation and get his money back fast.

What you should do is just forget any compensation and just cut off all communication about this matter with him. The next time he will get a check from you is when you pay for April's rent.

 

[TangoJuliet]

I'm starting to think that you want to keep doing the leg work for him so as to give you more leverage for compensation.

BTW, I know having sensitive information stolen sucks, but if you think about it, how many thousands of people have that same info? Any time you use a check, who knows how many people could copy down your name, address, bank #/routing #.

No, I said I don't care what he decides. If he wants my help then just do the three things I requested. If he doesn't want to then that is up to him. I don't have to go out of my way either.

I don't write many checks. The only ones I write are to the LL and to my condo's HOA. My wife will write an occasional check as a b-day gift. Of the check we write, none of them are obtained by shady people. Shady people that have no problem depositing something into their account without their name even being on the check.

What you should do is just forget any compensation and just cut off all communication about this matter with him. The next time he will get a check from you is when you pay for April's rent.

That is my next step....

 

[waggy]

What you should do is just forget any compensation and just cut off all communication about this matter with him. The next time he will get a check from you is when you pay for April's rent.

i agree.

Also make sure you hit the memo line as saying "april's rent"..witch you should be doing anyway.

also did i mention moving the fuck out ASAP? lol

 

[chubbyfatazn]

i agree.

Also make sure you hit the memo line as saying "april's rent"..witch you should be doing anyway.

also did i mention moving the fuck out ASAP? lol

He did that with March's rent.

 

[Ketchup]

This thread is getting stranger update by update. I would have moved out yesterday (actually two weeks ago.) I know you have a family to think about, but he lies, does not own up to them, and I could not give him an opportunity to continue to do so.