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The-Noid

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The LL keeps digging himself a deeper hole.

In my opinion it seems obvious his wife cashed the check. He knows she cashed the check. But instead of admitting it, has decided to try and commit fraud.

I have to think this is not going to end well.

Fun story to watch.

Seems OP lives in a shit hole either way. I wouldn't be attempting to find another place. I would be done here instantly.

If the house has multiple mold problems, I can't see how anyone would willingly choose to live there.
 

Q

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I didn't know reading could be this interesting. This thread has inspired me to start reading a thing called 'book' now.

Thanks OP!
 

TangoJuliet

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Were you the one that was attempting to lease the van?

What ever happened with that?

We tabled it for a little bit.

I have to think this is not going to end well.

Fun story to watch.

Seems OP lives in a shit hole either way. I wouldn't be attempting to find another place. I would be done here instantly.

If the house has multiple mold problems, I can't see how anyone would willingly choose to live there.

I said this previously it cost us a lot of money to move into this place....roughly $10,000 including 1 month rent, 1 month deposit, 1 month realtor fee plus moving expenses. The move was also rough on my wife who was 8 months pregnant at the time as well as having a 2 year old with health issues of his own.

We tried to ride things out and hope they would get better but it would seem as though once one thing got resolved something else would pop up. As you can tell its gotten to the point that we can no longer live here. Our relationship with the LL is too strained and is irreconcilable.

Like I said we are in the process of finding a new place to live. We don't want to rush into buying a home and we don't want to move into another rental just to move again in a couple months when we finally find a home we want to purchase. In the event that we do not find a place to live and our LL takes us to court we will have a good amount of evidence to present to the judge. Our worst case scenario would be for us to move back into our condo until we find our new home.
 

Eli

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Yeah, a landlord is one of the many people whose bad side you don't want to be on. Move ASAP.

Though at this point I have to admit I'd like to see the scumbag nailed. Doesn't seem like this can go on much longer. Hopefully the police decide to make an example out of him.
 
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God Mode

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The saddest part is how bastards like this are allowed to continue renting out their property without a word of warning to the potential tenants. NYC supply and demand I suppose.
 

alkemyst

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We tabled it for a little bit.



I said this previously it cost us a lot of money to move into this place....roughly $10,000 including 1 month rent, 1 month deposit, 1 month realtor fee plus moving expenses. The move was also rough on my wife who was 8 months pregnant at the time as well as having a 2 year old with health issues of his own.

We tried to ride things out and hope they would get better but it would seem as though once one thing got resolved something else would pop up. As you can tell its gotten to the point that we can no longer live here. Our relationship with the LL is too strained and is irreconcilable.

Like I said we are in the process of finding a new place to live. We don't want to rush into buying a home and we don't want to move into another rental just to move again in a couple months when we finally find a home we want to purchase. In the event that we do not find a place to live and our LL takes us to court we will have a good amount of evidence to present to the judge. Our worst case scenario would be for us to move back into our condo until we find our new home.

WTF is a realtor fee for you getting a rental?

Also if your kid has health problems, why would you move him into a place with mold? Are you looking for a future lawsuit? Is this what all this LL drama is really about?
 

alkemyst

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The saddest part is how bastards like this are allowed to continue renting out their property without a word of warning to the potential tenants. Supply and demand I suppose.

You are always given the opportunity to inspect a property prior to move-in. The OP admits he did yet still chose to move-in.
 

EagleKeeper

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WTF is a realtor fee for you getting a rental?

Also if your kid has health problems, why would you move him into a place with mold? Are you looking for a future lawsuit? Is this what all this LL drama is really about?

Many landlords do not put there places out in the open market.

They hire an agency to screen clients. In return the agency gets a fee. Sometimes from the landlord, other times from the client.

If a place has mold and gets cleanup up; the health issue is minimized.
 

EagleKeeper

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You are always given the opportunity to inspect a property prior to move-in. The OP admits he did yet still chose to move-in.
Inspection by a tenant, unless the place is completely emptied out is not like a home inspection.

One comes in expecting that the place be livable (given the price being paid).

In this case, the LL had not cleaned out the place at the time of inspection, difficult to see everything then at the time.
 

The-Noid

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Similar to TangoJuliet's lease thread, I am thinking there is much more here than a check issue.

My view is there hasn't exactly been full disclosure yet.
 

Kev

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Maybe this has already been answered... but can't your bank tell what specific account the money was transferred into? I find it hard to believe that in 2012 it takes more than 15 minutes to trace where the money actually went.
 

abaez

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It went into an account at Chase bank, which is not the LL's (or so we thought) bank nor the OP's bank. His bank apparently cannot reveal/find out the exact account the check's money went into.
 

Ketchup

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Maybe this has already been answered... but can't your bank tell what specific account the money was transferred into? I find it hard to believe that in 2012 it takes more than 15 minutes to trace where the money actually went.

They can, but you run into a lot of brick walls when:
a. only one of the two parties involved is present, and
b. there are two separate banks
 

apac

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We tabled it for a little bit.



I said this previously it cost us a lot of money to move into this place....roughly $10,000 including 1 month rent, 1 month deposit, 1 month realtor fee plus moving expenses. The move was also rough on my wife who was 8 months pregnant at the time as well as having a 2 year old with health issues of his own.

We tried to ride things out and hope they would get better but it would seem as though once one thing got resolved something else would pop up. As you can tell its gotten to the point that we can no longer live here. Our relationship with the LL is too strained and is irreconcilable.

Like I said we are in the process of finding a new place to live. We don't want to rush into buying a home and we don't want to move into another rental just to move again in a couple months when we finally find a home we want to purchase. In the event that we do not find a place to live and our LL takes us to court we will have a good amount of evidence to present to the judge. Our worst case scenario would be for us to move back into our condo until we find our new home.

I'd hold your rent for April, and if the landlord tries to take you to court over it, threaten to counter sue for moving expenses. It's not your fault you have to move.

edit: Actually, I suppose what's on the table includes: April (and future) rent, your deposit, moving expenses, and lawyer fees. I suspect you'll have to go to court anyway to get it all. Might as well stop paying the landlord a dime, find a new place to live, and move out.
 
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alkemyst

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I'd hold your rent for April, and if the landlord tries to take you to court over it, threaten to counter sue for moving expenses. It's not your fault you have to move.

You can't just go to court and say you have to move. All of these things were present at move in.
 
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edit: Actually, I suppose what's on the table includes: April (and future) rent, your deposit, moving expenses, and lawyer fees. I suspect you'll have to go to court anyway to get it all. Might as well stop paying the landlord a dime, find a new place to live, and move out.

That's a horrible idea. Don't stop paying rent, as that will make you look horrible if and when this comes to court. I'd only stop paying once you break the lease.
 

OutHouse

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I'd hold your rent for April, and if the landlord tries to take you to court over it, threaten to counter sue for moving expenses. It's not your fault you have to move.

edit: Actually, I suppose what's on the table includes: April (and future) rent, your deposit, moving expenses, and lawyer fees. I suspect you'll have to go to court anyway to get it all. Might as well stop paying the landlord a dime, find a new place to live, and move out.

tango do not do this.
 

Ketchup

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You can't just go to court and say you have to move. All of these things were present at move in.

I suppose he could if he gets a report stating mold that makes the home unsafe to live it. But even then I suppose he would need to give the LL a fair amount of time to fix it.
 

Kev

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It went into an account at Chase bank, which is not the LL's (or so we thought) bank nor the OP's bank. His bank apparently cannot reveal/find out the exact account the check's money went into.

This seems insane to me.
 

TangoJuliet

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It went into an account at Chase bank, which is not the LL's (or so we thought) bank nor the OP's bank. His bank apparently cannot reveal/find out the exact account the check's money went into.

That isn't exactly accurate. The check was received at a Chase bank. That does not mean it ended up in a chase account.

The landlord previously told me he did not own a chase account yet the last check I got from him was drawn on a JP Morgan Chase account.

Anyways, I faxed a bunch of documents to the detective last night. We spoke this morning and said my information presented the landlord in a "different light". The officer asked if I could fill out the affidavit so that he could find out exactly who cashed the check. If it turns out to be a family member then the LL will need to prosecute them to get his money back. The bank isn't going to eat the loss in that case. If it turns out to be somebody at random then the police will go after them for check fraud and the bank can reverse the funds.

The detective said I did nothing wrong and I still was under no obligation to fill out the affadavit however if I did nothing then when it gets presented before a judge I could end up losing. I have a lot of evidence in my favor to break the lease but I shouldn't "risk" the judgment in my favor if I did nothing.

Right now I am on my way to the bank to have the form notorized.
 

waggy

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Dec 14, 2000
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I suppose he could if he gets a report stating mold that makes the home unsafe to live it. But even then I suppose he would need to give the LL a fair amount of time to fix it.

not for a mold issue. that is one of the things you can get out of fast. its such a health issue that for kids it can be very bad.

also with all the BS the LL has TJ will have no issue breaking the lease once he finds a place.


As for the Realtor fees depending on where you live thats pretty much the only way you get a apartment. i was shocked when i lived in NY that i had to use one if i wanted a one. So you add up first,last security +realtor fees? fuck thats insane amount of money.
 
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