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highland145

Lifer
Oct 12, 2009
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My bank (citi) is 99% sure that the funds are in his account. The reason why they can't track it immediately is because there is no stamp on the back of the check. It was either deposited via ATM or mobile app.

They assured me that they can find out who the receiving bank is but it takes a little longer then if we had the stamp. They are doing an investigation now and should have that info by today or tomorrow.
LL should be billed for wasting the banks time. And yours.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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On a sidenote, if you're going to update the thread title, it'd be nice if you'd add the update to your OP as well
 

TangoJuliet

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Jul 2, 2006
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I honestly don't think he has the money. Because he is going down the path of bank and mail fraud. You would think that once he knows the jig is up he'd just say oops it's in my account now, sorry. However he is continuing down this path which makes me think he really doesnt have the money.

He may be a dbag but I don't think he's a scammer. He is one of those wall street investment bankers though so who knows.


On a sidenote, if you're going to update the thread title, it'd be nice if you'd add the update to your OP as well

I'm doing this from my phone so it's a little hard to update everything. I'll try and get around to updating the first post later
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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Sir, I paid you and you acknowledge that you received the check. I have no idea what happened to it afterwards and quite frankly, it is not my concern. Good luck with your findings and I'll speak to you again next month when I pay the rent for April.

this 100%
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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I honestly don't think he has the money. Because he is going down the path of bank and mail fraud. You would think that once he knows the jig is up he'd just say oops it's in my account now, sorry. However he is continuing down this path which makes me think he really doesnt have the money.

He may be a dbag but I don't think he's a scammer. He is one of those wall street investment bankers though so who knows.

I'm doing this from my phone so it's a little hard to update everything. I'll try and get around to updating the first post later
Wife has the cash not him. 10-1 she cashed the check on the account not deposited it. This isn't rocket surgery.
 

TangoJuliet

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Jul 2, 2006
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Wife has the cash not him. 10-1 she cashed the check on the account not deposited it. This isn't rocket surgery.

It says "deposit only" on the check so I don't think a bank will let you get cash back when you deposit it.
 

dud

Diamond Member
Feb 18, 2001
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Phoenix86 said: "Wife has the cash not him. 10-1 she cashed the check on the account not deposited it. This isn't rocket surgery."


It says "deposit only" on the check so I don't think a bank will let you get cash back when you deposit it.



Phoenix may have a point. Consider everything that you know right now ... what are the possible reasons for this situation? Either Phoenix is right OR the bank took the check and never actually credited the slimey LL's account with the funds.

if you have any possible answers ... please chime in.
 

TangoJuliet

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Jul 2, 2006
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Anybody work for capital one? I can give you his account number and you can see if the check was actually deposited on 3/6?
 

TangoJuliet

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Jul 2, 2006
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Phoenix86 said: "Wife has the cash not him. 10-1 she cashed the check on the account not deposited it. This isn't rocket surgery."






Phoenix may have a point. Consider everything that you know right now ... what are the possible reasons for this situation? Either Phoenix is right OR the bank took the check and never actually credited the slimey LL's account with the funds.

if you have any possible answers ... please chime in.

I think if it was cashed at a bank it would have been stamped on the back. Since it wasn't stamped I would think it was deposited with a mobile app.
 

TechBoyJK

Lifer
Oct 17, 2002
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Got a text from my LL the other day saying if he didn't get the rent money I was going to be charged a late fee. I told him I mailed it a week early like always and post dated the check.

He tells me he never got it. I said I have until the 10th to make the payment so if its not there by the 9th I'll stop payment and mail a new check.

I check my account today and it shows the check as being cleared. I send him a text saying I guess you got the check yesterday and cashed it. He tells me no. I pull up the account and it shows his signature and his account number on that check.

He then goes on to tell me that his wife tried to cash it on the 29th but the bank wouldn't let them cause it was dated 3/1. I call my bank and they said they can't stop payment because it already cleared. They said I have to go to a branch and they'll straighten it out.

I tell the LL this and he tells me to go to the branch. I work nights this week and have my kids during the day so I can't go out to the bank. I tell him I'll go on Saturday and mail a new check monday.

Should I really be doing all this work? I mailed the check early. He admitted to having the check in his possession. Whoever deposited is really not my problem, right/wrong?

Update 3/7

This is what he messaged to me

"According to my bank, your bank holds all of the ability to do anything. They can see where it was deposited and into what account and get it back. Once we find out who deposited the check we can talk about pressing charges if the bank doesnt do it automatically.
Being in banking for 5 years I would guess they would and just assume let them deal with all that."

I told him I'll call my bank tomorrow to see where it was deposited to. Thats pretty much as far as I'm going. I told him in the future he can make arrangements to come to the house to get his rent. He tells me he's coming the 1st of every month. I said no, we'll make an arrangement for a date between the 1st and 10th of each month.

He then sends me this

"Well be up there Sunday to see the progress of the house (they are buying a new house in the area). I can pickup march check then."

I replied

"No, I'm not giving you another check until this is straightened out. I dont have another $2500 to pay".

Seriously its been 9 months of shit like this over and over. We haven't told him but we are in the process of buying a house. I can't wait to see the look on his face when we say PEACE OUT. We retained a lawyer and have enough information to break the lease.



Major Update 3/9

Today's update

Me: Chris I just got off the phone with citi again and I had them start an investigation on where the check was deposited. If it was done at an atm or branch I'll get that information. If it was done through a mobile device then I'll get the bank's information. They should be able to get that information today.

The rep was almost 100% positive that the check was deposited into the account on the back of the check but we'll find out more

LL: Ok. If you are not getting answers you want or as quick as you want, a good friend of mine is a manager there and she can help. Let me know.

How would the person even know what bank to deposit it into? Didn't say capital one. Just an account number.That would be a hell of a guess.

Plus I've looked at my account everyday and it's not there. I can send screen shot if you want to show them.

Me: The rep said it is impossible to deposit it into any other account then the one on the back. The only other scenario she said could happen is if there was a typo on the account number when depositing it. sure, u can send me a screen shot if u like

LL: He's right....but if it's deposited into an ATM or with mobile device no person looked at the check. And it's possible who ever double checked ATM in morning was lazy....And that bank will be responsible

Me: Very true. So let me ask u this. Where is the check? Do you not have it any more?

LL: Huh?

Me: You said kerri tried to cash it on 2/29 but the bank wouldnt let her. You then said it was in her truck. So where did it go?

LL: If we knew that the. This process would be easy

Me: Ok. so let me see if I have this correctly. You got the check somewhere around the 2/27-2/29. You signed the check and put your account number on it and your wife tried to cash it. You then contact me on 3/5 saying that you never got the rent check but that obviously was not the truth. So the possible scenario here is your wife lost the check and you tried to blame it on me not sending it. Someone found the check and was successful in cashing it. Now you have me doing the leg work on finding out what happened??
This is seriously a huge inconvenience

LL: I admit it was our fault and would be willing to do the legwork Citi will only deal with the account owner. Perhaps you could give permission for them to deal with me
I have no problems doing the work and quite frankly know the lingo to use better...And we apologize for the inconvenience.


So that was indeed the case. LL lied to me that I didn't send the check when in fact it was his wife that lost it. What a piece of shit!!!!!

I would have ended it with. 'Well I'm done helping. You got your rent check.'
 

Squisher

Lifer
Aug 17, 2000
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OP, since you're used to doing stuff for other people now, how about coming over I've got some windows that need washing?
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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I think if it was cashed at a bank it would have been stamped on the back. Since it wasn't stamped I would think it was deposited with a mobile app.
What's more likely:

A: Bank failed to account for a deposit.
B: Wife cashed check.
 

Markbnj

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LL: Ok. If you are not getting answers you want or as quick as you want, a good friend of mine is a manager there and she can help. Let me know.

How would the person even know what bank to deposit it into? Didn't say capital one. Just an account number.That would be a hell of a guess.

Heh, they can tell immediately from the account number and the routing number. That, along with a few other statements he made (regarding the handling of deposits in ATMs) show that he has no idea what the hell he's talking about, and he's obviously unreliable and untrustworthy.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Well, I already told him because of this I am no longer mailing checks to him. He has to come to the house to pick them up. I was only post dating them because I was sending them early to avoid being late.

Is that really going to fix this situation though? From the sounds of it they got the check, then his wife endorsed it and wrote their account number on it...then fucking lost it. Handing them the check doesn't seem like a remedy for that kind of idiocy.
 
Oct 20, 2005
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If OP replies with "You got my check, the money has been withdrawn from my bank, it's no longer my problem. You deal with it", can the LL do anything like kick him out?
 

Phoenix86

Lifer
May 21, 2003
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If OP replies with "You got my check, the money has been withdrawn from my bank, it's no longer my problem. You deal with it", can the LL do anything like kick him out?
He could try but any judge should throw that out asap. Endorsed check with account number=LL has no legal ground to stand on.

Add that to the fact he lied about receiving the check and a few other tidbits which are documented via texts/e-mails and he's really screwed.

Like the OP said, if anything this just gives him all the ammo he needs to break the lease.
 

anxi80

Lifer
Jul 7, 2002
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Is this why Fantasy Baseball buy-in suddenly jumped up to $2500 this season?!
 

dabuddha

Lifer
Apr 10, 2000
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I honestly don't think he has the money. Because he is going down the path of bank and mail fraud. You would think that once he knows the jig is up he'd just say oops it's in my account now, sorry. However he is continuing down this path which makes me think he really doesnt have the money.

He may be a dbag but I don't think he's a scammer. He is one of those wall street investment bankers though so who knows.




I'm doing this from my phone so it's a little hard to update everything. I'll try and get around to updating the first post later

Ahhh that explains it
 
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