Wheres my rent check!?! Updated Daily!

[TangoJuliet]

Last message from LL

LL: I just want to be clear and have this documented before I proceed. *You are not going to attempt to get the funds back from determined JP Morgan Chase account? *

 

[TangoJuliet]

LoL at you calling the terms now!

Sounds like the landlord is willing to work with you and you are doing everything to be a dick about things.

They do not have to 'pick up' their check BTW, it's up to you to get it to them.

As far as their personal items, many homes around here rent without garage access. The landlords use them for storage. Should you sell off or destroy that property, it's the same as theft in Florida.

I could understand if he said the garage/shed was restricted but he did not. According to our lease every single room and area in that house is ours to use. We've rented homes that had locks on the attic that were off limits. This home does not have that.

Why does anything have to be on his terms? He can file a police report and I will comply with the law. I'm done doing any further legwork.

 

[abaez]

Last message from LL

LL: I just want to be clear and have this documented before I proceed. *You are not going to attempt to get the funds back from determined JP Morgan Chase account? *

What did you respond to this?

 

[alkemyst]

Last message from LL

LL: I just want to be clear and have this documented before I proceed. *You are not going to attempt to get the funds back from determined JP Morgan Chase account? *

my money is if this is true, you will be ending up in small claims court.

 

[etrigan420]

my money is if this is true, you will be ending up in small claims court.

...and TJ will win.

Landlord admitted that he received the check. The check was deposited and cleared, proving that TJ had the funds in his account.

End of story.

How does TJ maintain liability for the check once the landlord takes possession?

Landlord needs to take it up with the banks involved.

 

[amish]

wow, it seems like a ton of time and energy has been wasted on this. i wonder what the outcome would have been if you both would have visited the banks together.

hopefully it all works out in the end. i would definitely be looking for a new place to live.

 

[GotIssues]

Last message from LL

LL: I just want to be clear and have this documented before I proceed. *You are not going to attempt to get the funds back from determined JP Morgan Chase account? *

He's trying to position you to say something stupid so he can try and screw you over. He tried at the beginning, now he's trying a different approach.

I'd respond: After you caught him lying about whether or not he had already received the check that you have done everything that you are able to do to retrieve the funds, that you can't legally obtain information beyond what you've already provided the LL, and that the rest of the work needs in order to reclaim the funds from the check that the LL endorsed and later lost, the LL will need to work with the banks.

You've already provided all the information that you can legally obtain about the situation, it is up to the LL to complete it. Provide your own affidavit of the situation, which includes the lies the LL was trying to pull (include copies of communications). Get it notorized and what-not. Keep a copy or two for yourself.

The LL screwed up and is trying to pass the responsibility onto you. Don't let him do that and get out of the situation while protecting your own backside. You aren't responsible for the LL's check getting stolen and cashed (although I have a sneaky hunch it wasn't - it'll come out that his wife has cashed it and "never told him").

 

[EagleKeeper]

Between LL and Chase to get the money from the deposited account.
First is LL needs to verify that the account holder that Chase has on record is not someone that he knows.
Then LL can proceed with theft paperwork
If the Chase account holder is recognized by the LL - pull up a lawn chair.
Then LL can decide what to do - either way TJ is clear.

Now, IF the LL did not sign the check with his account, then TJ should get involved.
LL signed the check; LL has to do the chasing of the funds.

 

[waggy]

Last message from LL

LL: I just want to be clear and have this documented before I proceed. *You are not going to attempt to get the funds back from determined JP Morgan Chase account? *

hmm

i wouldn't respond. You have done more then you should have. the guy is determined to fuck you over.

 

[alkemyst]

...and TJ will win.

Landlord admitted that he received the check. The check was deposited and cleared, proving that TJ had the funds in his account.

End of story.

How does TJ maintain liability for the check once the landlord takes possession?

Landlord needs to take it up with the banks involved.

The problem is and what has been explained is apparently when the landlord deposited the check it didn't end up where it was intended to go and into an account that is not the landlords.

This is a possible bank error. Since the account is not the landlords and they have no way to prove that the landlord 'owned' the check, they will go back to the check writer.

That can start the investigation rolling. The bank will contact the depositor and ask them to verify why they deposited a check meant for another individual.

If that individual now claims the landlord endorsed it to them, it opens up dialogue between the bank, landlord and the depositor.

if that individual comes back and simply says he doesn't know why he got the money, they reverse it and deposit into the landlords account.

Either way the OP has to be involved a SMALL part to start this.

It's insane people think otherwise.

 

[TangoJuliet]

Did I miss what happened at the bank meet up?

I don't think I ever posted what happened. I had a doctor's appointment yesterday and I was in the waiting room forever. Since the LL did not want to agree with my proposals I did not have any extra time to go to a bank. I had to pick my kids up from day care and start dinner.

What did you respond to this?

I'm not replying. If he sends me another message its harassment and its violating our lease agreement of quiet enjoyment.

 

[alkemyst]

I don't think I ever posted what happened. I had a doctor's appointment yesterday and I was in the waiting room forever. Since the LL did not want to agree with my proposals I did not have any extra time to go to a bank. I had to pick my kids up from day care and start dinner.

How much compensation were you asking for?

 

[alkemyst]

I'm not replying. If he sends me another message its harassment and its violating our lease agreement of quiet enjoyment.

what?

 

[TangoJuliet]

How much compensation were you asking for?

I asked for a year subscription to a credit monitoring service which was between $225-275. He countered with a limited service that would not monitor if a new account was opened or an existing account was modified.

I asked for him to pay the full difference in oil since we split it each month. That was an additional $40.

The last thing I asked is for him to put the grass seed down sooner then "a couple weeks". Its been in the 60s-70s here and my kids want to play in the backyard without being covered in dirt. I guess a bag of grass seed is around $40.

I guess all of that would come out to around $300....$260 if you don't count the grass which he had to do anyways.

 

[FoBoT]

hang in there TJ, don't let him break you
this would make an awesome episode of Judge Judy, you might want to contact the show and pitch it

 

[Schfifty Five]

what?

Oh, TJ said:

I'm not replying. If he sends me another message its harassment and its violating our lease agreement of quiet enjoyment.

 

[abaez]

This really belongs on Judge Judy.

 

[etrigan420]

The problem is and what has been explained is apparently when the landlord deposited the check it didn't end up where it was intended to go and into an account that is not the landlords.

This is a possible bank error. Since the account is not the landlords and they have no way to prove that the landlord 'owned' the check, they will go back to the check writer.

That can start the investigation rolling. The bank will contact the depositor and ask them to verify why they deposited a check meant for another individual.

If that individual now claims the landlord endorsed it to them, it opens up dialogue between the bank, landlord and the depositor.

if that individual comes back and simply says he doesn't know why he got the money, they reverse it and deposit into the landlords account.

Either way the OP has to be involved a SMALL part to start this.

It's insane people think otherwise.

Unless I missed something, the landlord openly admits that he received the check, there is nothing to "prove" in that regard.

TJ presented a valid method of payment to LL...and...that's the end of TJ's liability.

-You buy a motherboard from me.
-You send me a check, and I send you the motherboard.
-I say, "Dude, never got your check".
-You look at your account, and the check has been posted as paid. You tell me this.
-I say, "Well okay, I *did* get your check...and wrote my account info on the back, but didn't deposit it, so, someone else must have cashed it. You should send me another check bro."
-This is when you tell me to go piss up a rope, and rightfully so.

What am I going to come after you for? What "small claim" do I have against you?

TJ actually took a couple of steps above and beyond what was required in an (apparently futile) attempt to diffuse the situation.

LL is shady, with a capital "Asshole".

 

[gothamhunter]

Should we start a Judge Judy petition? Because I would watch it.

 

[alkemyst]

it's not going to go far on Judge Judy. First she's not going to want to hear all the other bullshit, because ultimately it has no bearing and he moved in.

The second the request for the OP to have come down to the branch is brought up and he states he needs financial compensation to do so, she's going to go off the chain.

It's black and white, but everyone here is gaming to stick it to the landlord because the OP's place looks like a shithole.

 

[gothamhunter]

it's not going to go far on Judge Judy. First she's not going to want to hear all the other bullshit, because ultimately it has no bearing and he moved in.

The second the request for the OP to have come down to the branch is brought up and he states he needs financial compensation to do so, she's going to go off the chain.

It's black and white, but everyone here is gaming to stick it to the landlord because the OP's place looks like a shithole.

No, everyone is wanting to stick it to the LL because he initially lied and the entire situation should be in the hands of the LL now in terms of responsibility. The OP even stopped caring about compensation, so now it literally is just about the responsibility, which the LL seems to want to put on the OP because of his "so I can put on record that you're not going to try and get the money back?" statement.

 

[alkemyst]

Unless I missed something, the landlord openly admits that he received the check, there is nothing to "prove" in that regard.

TJ presented a valid method of payment to LL...and...that's the end of TJ's liability.

-You buy a motherboard from me.
-You send me a check, and I send you the motherboard.
-I say, "Dude, never got your check".
-You look at your account, and the check has been posted as paid. You tell me this.
-I say, "Well okay, I *did* get your check...and wrote my account info on the back, but didn't deposit it, so, someone else must have cashed it. You should send me another check bro."
-This is when you tell me to go piss up a rope, and rightfully so.

What am I going to come after you for? What "small claim" do I have against you?

TJ actually took a couple of steps above and beyond what was required in an (apparently futile) attempt to diffuse the situation.

LL is shady, with a capital "Asshole".

The problem is the person needs the check writer to initiate the paperwork because he cannot do so since he is not the check writer nor the depositor.

The landlord is claiming it has to be a bank error.

I am sure you believe that if one million dollars ended up in your checking and you moved it to 'cash' it's yours forever.

 

[rocadelpunk]

dang $2500 rent!

 

[FoBoT]

Should we start a Judge Judy petition? Because I would watch it.

i would DVR it and/or stream it from netflix/amazon instant

 

[alkemyst]

No, everyone is wanting to stick it to the LL because he initially lied and the entire situation should be in the hands of the LL now in terms of responsibility. The OP even stopped caring about compensation, so now it literally is just about the responsibility, which the LL seems to want to put on the OP because of his "so I can put on record that you're not going to try and get the money back?" statement.

Well we are taking the OP's word on that. The whole situation is overly complex and dramatic for such a simple matter.

It's easily the landlord was confused in the beginning where the check went, but now that it's been shown to be deposited they know where it went, but not how.

Now he needs the OP to submit an affidavit which the guy that got the deposit will answer. The landlord is stated that person has no claim to that check. If the OP agrees too, then the bank can initiate the investigation. Should the person with the check be able to show the landlord intended them to have the money then the OP did his part and it's up to those two to hash it out.

if that person cannot show why he got the deposit, the bank will reverse it and move it to the landlord.

either way the OP gets closure in all of a short bank visit.

You guys that want Judge Judy, she's going to hash it out this simply. The whole grass seeds, landlord's personal property on the premises, etc doesn't make a difference...if anything she may see some of this as extortion.