Where's the outrage against Rush Limbaugh?

[Harvey]

Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because the leftwing nuts at MM decided he was a good target for a smear and have sent their minions out to constantly bleat about it. I mean we now have atleast 2 threads on this very subject - which was a non-story to begin with since it is just a fabricated smear.

I see they are trying to continue with the smear by now trying to claim he called a vet a suicide bomber. :laugh: Sounds like they are getting really desperate now that their first smear was shown as a fraud.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

Your TRAITOR IN CHIEF and his criminal cabal intentionally misled Congress and the American people to start a war in Iraq based entirely on lies. Those lies were repeated, and continue to be repeated, by bloated water carrying turds like Limbaugh.

I'm sure your grand intellectual insights will be great comfort and solace to the families and freinds of the 3,808 (and rising) American troops who have died in their war of LIES.

I'm sure it will go a long way toward easing the suffering of the tens of thousands more American troops who have been wounded, disabled and scarred for life in that war.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

 

[Rainsford]

If MoveOn.org can call Patraeus "Betray Us", then Rush Limbaugh can call a soldier a metaphorical suicide bomber. There is idiotic rhetoric on both sides, but let's not pretend it's not exactly the same thing. You guys jumping to Rush's defense but castigating his equivalents on the left and the folks who want to string Rush up by his thumbs but ignore similar wording from lefties just look silly.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid.......

Heh, if you're a member of the "liberal elite", the "average American" agrees with you more than if you're a member of the conservative rabble.

But speaking of being an elitist, it strikes me as pretty arrogant to assume you speak for the "average American" without any confirmation of that fact. I mean, that's a pretty well accepted part of the conservative mythos, despite the fact that just as many people disagree with you than agree with you. Especially considering that folks like you who drag out the "average American" BS are typically pretty far to the right, to the point where I'd say very few people actually agree with you. Talk about being an elitist!

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
If MoveOn.org can call Patraeus "Betray Us", then Rush Limbaugh can call a soldier a metaphorical suicide bomber. There is idiotic rhetoric on both sides, but let's not pretend it's not exactly the same thing. You guys jumping to Rush's defense but castigating his equivalents on the left and the folks who want to string Rush up by his thumbs but ignore similar wording from lefties just look silly.

Let's get real here. You can't compare the MoveOn full-page NYT ad (which requires no stretch to discern its intent) to a couple words - clearly taken out of context - from the mouth of a radio commentator. To come to the conclusion the lefties apply, you really have to stretch. And I'm not defending Rush per se - I'm no big fan of his and do not listen to his show - but if I had to take the word of a guy who has supported the Armed Forces time and time again for 20+ years, or the words of some lefties with a political agenda, I know which I'd choose...

IF Rush had taken out a full page ad with only "PHONY SOLDIERS" written there, we could have a legitimate comparison with the MoveOn charade.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

I, nor Pabster, were referring to Rush's listeners.....

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Rainsford
If MoveOn.org can call Patraeus "Betray Us", then Rush Limbaugh can call a soldier a metaphorical suicide bomber. There is idiotic rhetoric on both sides, but let's not pretend it's not exactly the same thing. You guys jumping to Rush's defense but castigating his equivalents on the left and the folks who want to string Rush up by his thumbs but ignore similar wording from lefties just look silly.

Let's get real here. You can't compare the MoveOn full-page NYT ad (which requires no stretch to discern its intent) to a couple words - clearly taken out of context - from the mouth of a radio commentator. To come to the conclusion the lefties apply, you really have to stretch. And I'm not defending Rush per se - I'm no big fan of his and do not listen to his show - but if I had to take the word of a guy who has supported the Armed Forces time and time again for 20+ years, or the words of some lefties with a political agenda, I know which I'd choose...

IF Rush had taken out a full page ad with only "PHONY SOLDIERS" written there, we could have a legitimate comparison with the MoveOn charade.

I wasn't suggesting their actions were morally identical, I agree that it's a matter of degree. But the difference in reactions is NOT just a matter of degree, it's not like those people who disapproved strongly of the MoveOn ad disagree just a little bit with Rush's actions, people are being pretty supportive of him here.

I agree it's not quite as blatant, but it's clearly along the same lines. The problem with the MoveOn ad was that it expressed a political opinion without showing even the slightest amount of respect (and a lot of disrespect) to someone who's serving his country when they made that point. Rush did something quite similar...it's all about politics trumping anything else, if it used to stop at the water's edge, it certainly doesn't any more.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

I, nor Pabster, were referring to Rush's listeners.....

I see...then why did you quote Moonbeam's comment?

In any case, I find the "average American" mythos of the far right pretty amusing. Particularly as I rarely hear liberals actually attack the average American, but I see you guys leaping to their "defense" all the time.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Rainsford
If MoveOn.org can call Patraeus "Betray Us", then Rush Limbaugh can call a soldier a metaphorical suicide bomber. There is idiotic rhetoric on both sides, but let's not pretend it's not exactly the same thing. You guys jumping to Rush's defense but castigating his equivalents on the left and the folks who want to string Rush up by his thumbs but ignore similar wording from lefties just look silly.

Let's get real here. You can't compare the MoveOn full-page NYT ad (which requires no stretch to discern its intent) to a couple words - clearly taken out of context - from the mouth of a radio commentator. To come to the conclusion the lefties apply, you really have to stretch. And I'm not defending Rush per se - I'm no big fan of his and do not listen to his show - but if I had to take the word of a guy who has supported the Armed Forces time and time again for 20+ years, or the words of some lefties with a political agenda, I know which I'd choose...

IF Rush had taken out a full page ad with only "PHONY SOLDIERS" written there, we could have a legitimate comparison with the MoveOn charade.

Nevermind the not so insignificant distinction that Moveon personally attacked a named individual whereas Rush named no one.....except for a real phony soldier.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
In any case, I find the "average American" mythos of the far right pretty amusing. Particularly as I rarely hear liberals actually attack the average American, but I see you guys leaping to their "defense" all the time.

I think it is very true, at least with relation to radio. Do you know any left-wing, liberal networks that have managed to keep their head above water?

I also disagree with the notion that "everyone" who listens to Rush et al. are "Right wing nut jobs" ... If that were the case, they wouldn't have left-wing nuts calling in to bother them. I think the audiences are fairly diverse.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

I, nor Pabster, were referring to Rush's listeners.....

I see...then why did you quote Moonbeam's comment?

In any case, I find the "average American" mythos of the far right pretty amusing. Particularly as I rarely hear liberals actually attack the average American, but I see you guys leaping to their "defense" all the time.

Well, perhaps I would have been better served by saying that I wasn't referring solely to Rush's listeners. Be that as it may, are you also claiming none of Rush's listenership are made up of average Americans? "Average American" has nothing to do with political makup.......they are your everyday people you meet and live with. You're probably one of them Rainsford. I know I am. I like to go bowling, watch football, enjoy large explosions and car chases in movies, drink beer, watch My Name is Earl, discreetly check out the hooters on hot chicks........pretty "average" right along with all of my neighbors...some of which are rabid Demoncrats.

As to your last sentence, I believe you are being more than slightly dishonest. The elite lefties on this board constantly castigate the unwashed masses for their stupidity. Here is an example:

Originally posted by: Rainsford
The average American is exactly as dumb as we think...why do you imagine that crap is on TV in the first place? I'm always amused by the idea that the entertainment industry (of which the news media has regrettably become a part) has some agenda besides making money. And the way to make money is to sell things people want, whether it's movies filled with sex and violence or soft "news" that would make Edward R. Murrow cringe. And don't kid yourself, people want all of it...maybe not everyone does, but enough people do to make it a better business model than any other option.

Consider Fox News. There were a lot of problems with cable news, and network news, when Fox News came on the scene...and "liberal bias" was not among them. Whatever bias might exist is so faint, as even the media's detractors seem to reluctantly admit, that it's overshadowed by the sheer lack of discernible professionalism among the mass media. Fox News COULD have been the antidote to that, but there was more money into turning into the model for the brand new "asshole on TV" market. And it worked extremely well, because people don't WANT thought-provoking, intelligent and informative news coverage, they want Bill O'Reilly screaming about illegal immigrants.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Rainsford
In any case, I find the "average American" mythos of the far right pretty amusing. Particularly as I rarely hear liberals actually attack the average American, but I see you guys leaping to their "defense" all the time.

I think it is very true, at least with relation to radio. Do you know any left-wing, liberal networks that have managed to keep their head above water?

I also disagree with the notion that "everyone" who listens to Rush et al. are "Right wing nut jobs" ... If that were the case, they wouldn't have left-wing nuts calling in to bother them. I think the audiences are fairly diverse.

Fair enough, I don't think everyone who listens to Rush is a nutjob...but I DO think there are some fairly interesting theories about why right-wing radio (and TV) is so much more successful than the left-wing version.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: Pabster
But I will call out the phony political organizations AKA Media Matters and CAP and let everyone know who is orchestrating these ridiculous smear campaigns.

I don't know what your reference to "CAP" is, but most of what I've seen on Media Matters is pretty well documented. If you can't prove that what they say is false, your accusation that Media Matters is a "phony political organizations" is as phony as Limbaugh's accusations that anyone in the service who doesn't approve of the Bushwhackos' war of LIES is a "phony" soldier.

Nice to know that a lying fat ass chickenhawk druggie like Limbaugh got his deferment from putting his own ass on the line in the service. :roll:

The fact is, MM is incredibly biased

This is where you get it so wrong. You confuse "bias" with his beliefs.

Am I 'biased' on the side of the "moon landing was not faked" group, or am I simply on their side for reasons other than bias?

If I would reverse my position tomorrow if solid evidence came out they really were faked, as I would, am I biased? No.

It's a natural tendency to want to ignore the people who you don't agree with, to call them something (commies, crooked, brainwashed, many more), but it's your loss.

Brock is liberal, which is NOT to say the same thing as that he has a liberal bias. His focus is on exposing where he sees the problem - right-wing media falsehoods.

That doesn't mean he falsifies any reports, and it doesn't mean he denies any democratic wrongdoing; he claims to report on right-wing errors, "fair and unbalanced" you can say.

Nothing wrong with that.

not to mention as guilty of phonying up shit to make their story as most other networks.

I spoke to soon, you get it wrong here too. Why don't you prove that his rate of false reporting is any worse than the very rare mistake?

The founder of MM, David Brock, is a guy who wrote a book on Hillary, and changed from GOP to Dem after being paid an advance of $1 million.

A misleading statement on your part. I am not a big fan of Brock's behavior in how he served the right wing as he did, only changing when his ox began to get gored, but nonetheless you very much misrepresent the history - he didn't change for money, in fact he gave up a lot of money to switch; he changed sides when his being gay was exposed and he began to see the hypocrisy better and recognized how dishonest and wrong so much of his right-wing media industry was.

His primary staff are from former presidential campaigns of Democrats Al Gore, Sen. John Edwards, and Gen. Wesley Clark, the National Organization for Women, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the Democratic National Committee, the Alliance for Justice, and Greenpeace.

Yes. They're liberal, not a list of criminals. As I said, you fail to note the difference between bias and beliefs.

Is the cancer society biased, are they lying, when they talk about cigarettes just because they have beliefs?

This organization is the Fox News of the left. If you cant admit it's bias, you sir are blind as a bat and in need of therapy for your denial. Want some examples?

Deliberate smear against Cliff Kincaid All supporting evidence of their creation of shit is well documented.
" The left-wing organization Media Matters (MMFA) appears to have been caught red-handed in an ugly and false smear attack against Cliff Kincaid, editor of Accuracy in Media (AIM) and president of America's Survival, Inc. In an August 19, 2005, item entitled, "AIM's Kincaid posted 'letter' from Afghan ambassador thanking him for petition to extradite Newsweek's Isikoff," Media Matters clearly implies that Kincaid fabricated a letter from an Afghan ambassador. However, every indication reveals that Kincaid did no such thing."

Media Matters proves this wrong here.

Links and proof MM completely pieced together a Bill O'Reilly interview to match their needs. Kinda like what Dave does here all the time.

No, they didn't. Again, if this is the right incident, here's the story link

LOL you link MM website as PROOF of its own innocence? haha WTF you smoking? The evidence is there. MM can spin it any way they want, and they did. Only a liberal hack like yourself would believe it.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

And the average American doesnt care what Moveon.org or MM say either. Left wing fanatics do. The fact that there are alot of left wing fanatics just mens its a popular mindset, but I doubt they have the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe they do.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

I, nor Pabster, were referring to Rush's listeners.....

I see...then why did you quote Moonbeam's comment?

In any case, I find the "average American" mythos of the far right pretty amusing. Particularly as I rarely hear liberals actually attack the average American, but I see you guys leaping to their "defense" all the time.

Well, perhaps I would have been better served by saying that I wasn't referring solely to Rush's listeners. Be that as it may, are you also claiming none of Rush's listenership are made up of average Americans? "Average American" has nothing to do with political makup.......they are your everyday people you meet and live with. You're probably one of them Rainsford. I know I am. I like to go bowling, watch football, enjoy large explosions and car chases in movies, drink beer, watch My Name is Earl, discreetly check out the hooters on hot chicks........pretty "average" right along with all of my neighbors...some of which are rabid Demoncrats.

As to your last sentence, I believe you are being more than slightly dishonest. The elite lefties on this board constantly castigate the unwashed masses for their stupidity.

I'm pretty sure we're both pretty average Americans, which was (sort of) my point. I don't like how the right (or the left, if I heard them doing it) lays claim to "average Americans" as their constituency, especially when "average American" is rigidly defined to include people who drink Miller Light but not folks who enjoy micro-brew. I think the whole thing is pretty silly, really, and I couldn't agree more that average Americans are all over the place.

That said, I know what you're talking about with the lefties and the unwashed masses, but I'm not sure the "average American" defense works here. Being stupid is being stupid, there is no reason the average American should be off the hook for doing dumb things just because he wasn't alone in doing them. Things don't automatically become smart once a certain percentage of the population believes them. Now I agree that it's possible to take it too far and believe you're better than everyone else because of whatever particular issue is on the table today, and I'm sure some people step over that line. But at a certain point it's OK to say, "hey, wait a minute guys, what the hell are we doing?"

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

I, nor Pabster, were referring to Rush's listeners.....

I see...then why did you quote Moonbeam's comment?

In any case, I find the "average American" mythos of the far right pretty amusing. Particularly as I rarely hear liberals actually attack the average American, but I see you guys leaping to their "defense" all the time.

Well, perhaps I would have been better served by saying that I wasn't referring solely to Rush's listeners. Be that as it may, are you also claiming none of Rush's listenership are made up of average Americans? "Average American" has nothing to do with political makup.......they are your everyday people you meet and live with. You're probably one of them Rainsford. I know I am. I like to go bowling, watch football, enjoy large explosions and car chases in movies, drink beer, watch My Name is Earl, discreetly check out the hooters on hot chicks........pretty "average" right along with all of my neighbors...some of which are rabid Demoncrats.

As to your last sentence, I believe you are being more than slightly dishonest. The elite lefties on this board constantly castigate the unwashed masses for their stupidity.

I'm pretty sure we're both pretty average Americans, which was (sort of) my point. I don't like how the right (or the left, if I heard them doing it) lays claim to "average Americans" as their constituency, especially when "average American" is rigidly defined to include people who drink Miller Light but not folks who enjoy micro-brew. I think the whole thing is pretty silly, really, and I couldn't agree more that average Americans are all over the place.

That said, I know what you're talking about with the lefties and the unwashed masses, but I'm not sure the "average American" defense works here. Being stupid is being stupid, there is no reason the average American should be off the hook for doing dumb things just because he wasn't alone in doing them. Things don't automatically become smart once a certain percentage of the population believes them. Now I agree that it's possible to take it too far and believe you're better than everyone else because of whatever particular issue is on the table today, and I'm sure some people step over that line. But at a certain point it's OK to say, "hey, wait a minute guys, what the hell are we doing?"

Hah! You and I agree then. Just ignore my final edit on my last post. :evil:

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Pabster
I don't have to "prove" anything false. The average American can listen to the tapes and make a decision for themself.

Well, don't forget that if you are a member of the Liberal Elite, the average American is stupid and should be despised:

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Harvey
Why are we even wasting time over what a lying, bloated, drugged out turd like Limbaugh says? :roll:

Because of the millions of Americans who are misled by him - so that we can better counter his wrong messages, and help them get better informed.

They want to be misled. If they didn't they wouldn't listen. Geez even the delusional, any more, are given no peace.

The average American doesn't listen to Rush Limbaugh. Right-wing fanatics do. The fact that there are a lot of right-wing fanatics just means it's a popular mindset, but I doubt he has the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe he does.

And the average American doesnt care what Moveon.org or MM say either. Left wing fanatics do. The fact that there are alot of left wing fanatics just mens its a popular mindset, but I doubt they have the "everyman" appeal you'd like to believe they do.

That was pretty clever, can I expect more of this 6th grade type of banter, or can we at least progress to the high school level?

Seriously, you're right...and I never said otherwise. The extremes tend to be the loudest, which means it's easy to confuse their viewpoint with some sort of popular opinion. No matter how much they might like to think so, neither Rush Limbaugh nor MoveOn.org are the voice of the people. They are folks with an agenda that has a lot of supporters, but representative of the average folks, they aren't.

 

[Stoneburner]

Has any right wing dingbat explained limbaugh's reference to Jack Murtha as a phony soldier? No claims of "taken out of context!" ???

I'm going to assume everybody who is defending limbaugh agrees that no real soldier supports pulling out of iraq.

 

[piasabird]

Limbaugh has freedom of speech. He is a private citizen. How can congress censure someone for expressing their freedom of speech? First they would have to censure Nancy Pelosi.

 

[ProfJohn]

This is just an attempt by some Democrats in congress to make their left wing base happy by attack enemy number 2, behind Bush.

Ironic that the same people who defended or ignored the ?General Betrayus? ad are now attacking Rush.

BTW Rush has about 10 times the audience of the NY Times... :laugh: