Which brand do you choose - Michelin or Goodyear?

[sugar]

If you had a choice of the two and they both had the same warranty, brand new and everything, which brand would you choose?

 

[RossMAN]

Michelin

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

This really isn't a fair fight in terms of quality. Michelins are, in the main, much better tires than Goodyears.

 

[Crucial]

neither. I'd buy Firestone Firehawk SZ50's

 

[Zenmervolt]

Bridgestone.

ZV

 

[GroundZero]

pirelli

 

[DieselUV]

Both are good brands. I have Michelins on my car and Goodyear MTRs on my truck.

 

[LeadMagnet]

Michelin

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Bridgestone.

ZV

My Bridgestone Potenza RE92s really, really suck. I am looking forward to replacing them with some Michelin Pilot Sport A/Ss. IMO Bridgestone suffers from many of the same quality issues as its sister company, Firestone.

 

Definitely Michelin.

 

[Zim Hosein]

BFGoodrich Tires

 

[Aharami]

Michelin. just cuz the Michelin man is so damn cool

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Bridgestone.

ZV

My Bridgestone Potenza RE92s really, really suck. I am looking forward to replacing them with some Michelin Pilot Sport A/Ss. IMO Bridgestone suffers from many of the same quality issues as its sister company, Firestone.

Well duh the RE92 sucks. You're not going to find any tire with a tread pattern like that without it sucking. The RE910 is an amazing tire, did wonders for my old Accord in the wet and the snow. I'm currently running RE950s on my 924S and they have been simply amazing. The tread pattern on the RE92 is obviously not a performance tread pattern, anyone buying it expecting a great performance tire is deluded. It's an OE all-season design used on the Toyota Camry for heaven's sake.

If you want good tires, you absolutely cannot buy a tire that is "all-season". I stick with 3-season tires and change over to dedicated snow tires in the winter. I've had all kinds of tire brands, Bridgestone and Firestone have consistantly given me the best wear and best performance.

You can't blame the whole company because of a poor class choice on your part. If you want performance tires, don't buy all-season tires. As for Firestone having quality problems, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. If you're trying to link it up with that media-invented Explorer fiction, I will remind you that there are precisely _zero_ instances of a properly-inflated and non-overloaded Firestone Wilderness AT tire having any problem. All of the blowouts were caused by operator neglect, either through a failure to keep the tires up to pressure (_all_ tires lose pressure over time and should be checked weekly and inflated as per the sticker on the car's doorjam) or a failure to observe the loading guidlines.

ZV

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Well duh the RE92 sucks. You're not going to find any tire with a tread pattern like that without it sucking. The RE910 is an amazing tire, did wonders for my old Accord in the wet and the snow. I'm currently running RE950s on my 924S and they have been simply amazing. The tread pattern on the RE92 is obviously not a performance tread pattern, anyone buying it expecting a great performance tire is deluded. It's an OE all-season design used on the Toyota Camry for heaven's sake.

If you want good tires, you absolutely cannot buy a tire that is "all-season". I stick with 3-season tires and change over to dedicated snow tires in the winter. I've had all kinds of tire brands, Bridgestone and Firestone have consistantly given me the best wear and best performance.

You can't blame the whole company because of a poor class choice on your part. If you want performance tires, don't buy all-season tires. As for Firestone having quality problems, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. If you're trying to link it up with that media-invented Explorer fiction, I will remind you that there are precisely _zero_ instances of a properly-inflated and non-overloaded Firestone Wilderness AT tire having any problem. All of the blowouts were caused by operator neglect, either through a failure to keep the tires up to pressure (_all_ tires lose pressure over time and should be checked weekly and inflated as per the sticker on the car's doorjam) or a failure to observe the loading guidlines.

ZV[/quote]

The RE92s are OEM tires on my car (a 2001 Maxima SE with 5-spd), and I certainly didn't choose them. That said, I have driven a similar Maxima SE with the Pilot Sport A/Ss, also all-season tires, and it was an amazing transformation.

Firestone admitted in 2001 that its own design and manufacturing processes had problems, particularly with the tires made in Decatur, IL (hence their massive recall in 2000 and "Making It Right" ad campaign). The NHTSA also found that the Wilderness tires made before 1998 were defective.

I don't mean to paint with too broad a brush - I don't have any reason to believe that Bridgestone/Firestone tires are defective or dangerous on the whole (though between their tremendous struggles in the 70s and their recent problems, they don't inspire tremendous confidence in me), and I don't doubt that they make some great stuff. That said, I am not impressed that they put Michelin's level of money and emphasis into their engineering. I think there are lots of good tires and bad tires (relatively speaking) by all makers, and if you have tires you are satisfied with, that's great.

 

[NutBucket]

Neither. So far I'm very satisfied with my Yokohamas.

 

[diggerbucket]

Don't know if it's different for you guys but here in the UK the best tyre is probably the Goodyear Eagle F1. Great in the dry and the wet but probably not so hot in winter conditions. As mentioned before you can't buy an all-year-round tyre and hope for outstanding performance in the dry.

Another good buy is the Toyo Proxes T1S, pretty cheap too.

Don't think I know anyone who has Michelins, certainly not anyone who uses their car for track days or "spirited" driving.

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: Aharami
Michelin. just cuz the Michelin man is so damn cool

his name is Bibendum

I would choose Goodyear just because Michelin didn't give me a job offer after I interviewed with them.

 

[glen]

I will never buy any other tire than Michellin.

 

[RagingBITCH]

The Michelin's on my car right now absolutely suck ass. The last pair we had on our van - the tire had some abnormality just a year after we got them and almost exploded while we were driving down the highway (luckily we pulled over when we heard an odd noise). We had Goodyear's on all my old Accords and it was 10x the tire the Michelin's ever was. Goodyear > Michelin

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Firestone admitted in 2001 that its own design and manufacturing processes had problems, particularly with the tires made in Decatur, IL (hence their massive recall in 2000 and "Making It Right" ad campaign). The NHTSA also found that the Wilderness tires made before 1998 were defective.

Firestone was forced into that to avoid the publicity disaster of calling the vehicle owners morons for not being able to follow instructions and because public opinion was already against them and it was less damaging to admint fault than to press on with the truth.

We had four sets of Wilderness AT tires on three different Explorers (a '91, a '98, and a '99) Each set lasted for well over 80,000 miles on a vehicle that typically had at least 500 pounds of demo parts for semi trucks in the rear.

ZV

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
Neither. So far I'm very satisfied with my Yokohamas.

i loved their old S306 on my accord, but the new model that replaced it is the crappiest tire i've ever owned. despite being supposedly more aggresive, there's only a very vague connection between them and the road. i have to make constant corrections on the highway to deal with wind, and high-speed cornering went from stable and predictable to borderline scary. :disgust:

 

[VTEC01EX]

I'm running Bridgestone Potenza RE950s right now absolutely LOVE them. I'm pretty loyal to Bridgestone and Yokohama, but I've also never had Potenza RE92s. Instead I had Firestone FR690's, the worst tires in existence, I just kept telling myself that Firestone and Bridgestone, while the same company, were two different lines of tires.

Anyone that's gotten MXV4 Michelins as OEM tires will likely vote Goodyear in the poll, just because it's not Michelin. Everyone's got at least a few bad apples in the line.

 

[NutBucket]

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: NutBucket
Neither. So far I'm very satisfied with my Yokohamas.

i loved their old S306 on my accord, but the new model that replaced it is the crappiest tire i've ever owned. despite being supposedly more aggresive, there's only a very vague connection between them and the road. i have to make constant corrections on the highway to deal with wind, and high-speed cornering went from stable and predictable to borderline scary. :disgust:

Never tried any of their tires that weren't "summer" tires

 

[rh71]

My truck came stock with Goodyear Eagles. I was slip-sliding everywhere in rain and especially snow. I hydroplaned on the expressway onto a platform once with 3 other passengers - thankfully there was no barrier that we hit... I stopped short of a concrete wall though. Losing control at 45mph+ in the rain is no fun.

I will never go with Goodyear again. I got them off ASAP and went with Pirelli's.

 

[isekii]

I like the RE040's i currently have.

I'm gonna most likely go with the S03 Pole Position tho.