Which Caliber for Long Range Shooting?

Jon855

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I was wondering since I am using my .22-250 for the long range shooting 600m and out to 1000m.

I got a new scope now I have to zero that in to 400m and test it upwards of 600m to be as accurate as I can be.

Be realistic although... I'm talking about Target Shooting.
 

Rastus

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That debate has been raging for many years, but I think it's definatively settled for now with the .50's that are out there. Until something else comes along that can compete with it.
 

piasabird

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22-250 is a very high velocity round. That is because it has a lower caliber round and the amount of charge is very high for the weight of the bullet.

It may be illegal in most places but I have seen a few .50 caliber snyper type rifles. They make some of the rounds with teflon coatings. When I worked at Winchester Western we use to special order the bullets and we made them for the military. They would be considered armored piercing. These rifles that shoot this round are quite large usually uses a tripod and the range is about 2 miles. I am guessing at the range. It is ideal for an offensive weapon or for a sniper.

If you have the civilian version of the 7.62 or militray rifle M-16(guess), I have seen people hit targets at 1,000 meters or more at the rifle range. The shell cases for the military were heat treaded to make them harder. I am guessing that the gun powder that was used in these rounds was quite powerful. I was in the army and this round is leathal at short range. They can easily pierce both sides of an empty ammo can and the round expands on impact for a good killing effect. I have served in the military and I also worked on these size of shell casings at Olin Works of East Alton, Winchester Western.

Some of the larger rounds may not travel quite as far due to their weight. The larger grain size of the bullets is more for taking down larger game. The 300 Winmags are extremely large shell cases. I use to hate trying to keep that hopper full of shell cases for this size cartridge. The 270 is a typical hunting round and very popular. The 30.30 is barely tapered and does not have a reduced neck. It is a popular round but it is more of a varmit round for ranchers.

Here is an article about hunting rifle accuracy:

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/shooting_tips/accuracy_1001/

There must be a hundred hunting shows and magazines you could find online.

A larger caliber may have such a recoil that you dont want to shoot twice. For instance when hunting Bear you dont want to be too close or have a light round.
 

Jon855

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Piasabird, thanks for your feedback. Nice... What I'm talking about here is typical long range shooting upwards to 1000m Target Shooting
 

BuckNaked

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Depends on what you actually intend to shoot... I would go with .300 Win Mag or .338 Lapua, if you are actually looking at 1,000 yards or more.
 

Prong

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Are you looking to buy or build? For an off the shelf rig, a .308 or .300 Win mag would work. Serious shooters usually build something like a 6.5-.284, or a 7mm or .30 Baer (8mm Rem mag necked down). The 338 Ultra Mag will do 99% of what the .338 Lapua will do for half price. If you build something bigger like the .300 WM or .338UM, keep the weight (14+ lbs.) up to help tame the recoil.
 

Jmmsbnd007

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Originally posted by: piasabird
22-250 is a very high velocity round. That is because it has a lower caliber round and the amount of charge is very high for the weight of the bullet.

It may be illegal in most places but I have seen a few .50 caliber snyper type rifles. They make some of the rounds with teflon coatings. When I worked at Winchester Western we use to special order the bullets and we made them for the military. They would be considered armored piercing. These rifles that shoot this round are quite large usually uses a tripod and the range is about 2 miles. I am guessing at the range. It is ideal for an offensive weapon or for a sniper.

If you have the civilian version of the 7.62 or militray rifle M-16(guess), I have seen people hit targets at 1,000 meters or more at the rifle range. The shell cases for the military were heat treaded to make them harder. I am guessing that the gun powder that was used in these rounds was quite powerful. I was in the army and this round is leathal at short range. They can easily pierce both sides of an empty ammo can and the round expands on impact for a good killing effect. I have served in the military and I also worked on these size of shell casings at Olin Works of East Alton, Winchester Western.

Some of the larger rounds may not travel quite as far due to their weight. The larger grain size of the bullets is more for taking down larger game. The 300 Winmags are extremely large shell cases. I use to hate trying to keep that hopper full of shell cases for this size cartridge. The 270 is a typical hunting round and very popular. The 30.30 is barely tapered and does not have a reduced neck. It is a popular round but it is more of a varmit round for ranchers.

Here is an article about hunting rifle accuracy:

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/shooting_tips/accuracy_1001/

There must be a hundred hunting shows and magazines you could find online.

A larger caliber may have such a recoil that you dont want to shoot twice. For instance when hunting Bear you dont want to be too close or have a light round.
Almost everything you said is untrue, but I cannot reply now, so I will do so later. As for the OP, a .308 might not always be supersonic at 1000 yards, depending on your loading. Take that into consideration.
 

Antisocial Virge

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Originally posted by: piasabird
22-250 is a very high velocity round. That is because it has a lower caliber round and the amount of charge is very high for the weight of the bullet.

It may be illegal in most places but I have seen a few .50 caliber snyper type rifles. They make some of the rounds with teflon coatings. When I worked at Winchester Western we use to special order the bullets and we made them for the military. They would be considered armored piercing. These rifles that shoot this round are quite large usually uses a tripod and the range is about 2 miles. I am guessing at the range. It is ideal for an offensive weapon or for a sniper.

If you have the civilian version of the 7.62 or militray rifle M-16(guess), I have seen people hit targets at 1,000 meters or more at the rifle range. The shell cases for the military were heat treaded to make them harder. I am guessing that the gun powder that was used in these rounds was quite powerful. I was in the army and this round is leathal at short range. They can easily pierce both sides of an empty ammo can and the round expands on impact for a good killing effect. I have served in the military and I also worked on these size of shell casings at Olin Works of East Alton, Winchester Western.

Some of the larger rounds may not travel quite as far due to their weight. The larger grain size of the bullets is more for taking down larger game. The 300 Winmags are extremely large shell cases. I use to hate trying to keep that hopper full of shell cases for this size cartridge. The 270 is a typical hunting round and very popular. The 30.30 is barely tapered and does not have a reduced neck. It is a popular round but it is more of a varmit round for ranchers.

Here is an article about hunting rifle accuracy:

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/shooting_tips/accuracy_1001/

There must be a hundred hunting shows and magazines you could find online.

A larger caliber may have such a recoil that you dont want to shoot twice. For instance when hunting Bear you dont want to be too close or have a light round.


Where to start.
I have never seen a 50 cal on a tripod, bipod yes, but never a tripod.
A 50 cal does not have to have teflon coated rounds to go through body armour.

usually uses a tripod and the range is about 2 miles
nope

The shell cases for the military were heat treaded to make them harder. I am guessing that the gun powder that was used in these rounds was quite powerful. I was in the army and this round is leathal at short range. They can easily pierce both sides of an empty ammo can and the round expands on impact for a good killing effect.

Any round is lethal at short range, going through both sides of a ammo tin is no large accomplishment and just about every round on the market mushrooms on impact.

For instance when hunting Bear you dont want to be too close or have a light round

I've hunted bear from less that 20 yards with a bow and arrow.
 

hysperion

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Originally posted by: piasabird
22-250 is a very high velocity round. That is because it has a lower caliber round and the amount of charge is very high for the weight of the bullet.

It may be illegal in most places but I have seen a few .50 caliber snyper type rifles. They make some of the rounds with teflon coatings. When I worked at Winchester Western we use to special order the bullets and we made them for the military. They would be considered armored piercing. These rifles that shoot this round are quite large usually uses a tripod and the range is about 2 miles. I am guessing at the range. It is ideal for an offensive weapon or for a sniper.

If you have the civilian version of the 7.62 or militray rifle M-16(guess), I have seen people hit targets at 1,000 meters or more at the rifle range. The shell cases for the military were heat treaded to make them harder. I am guessing that the gun powder that was used in these rounds was quite powerful. I was in the army and this round is leathal at short range. They can easily pierce both sides of an empty ammo can and the round expands on impact for a good killing effect. I have served in the military and I also worked on these size of shell casings at Olin Works of East Alton, Winchester Western.

Some of the larger rounds may not travel quite as far due to their weight. The larger grain size of the bullets is more for taking down larger game. The 300 Winmags are extremely large shell cases. I use to hate trying to keep that hopper full of shell cases for this size cartridge. The 270 is a typical hunting round and very popular. The 30.30 is barely tapered and does not have a reduced neck. It is a popular round but it is more of a varmit round for ranchers.

Here is an article about hunting rifle accuracy:

http://www.rifleshootermag.com/shooting_tips/accuracy_1001/

There must be a hundred hunting shows and magazines you could find online.

A larger caliber may have such a recoil that you dont want to shoot twice. For instance when hunting Bear you dont want to be too close or have a light round.

2 mile range? ROFL.....you'd be hard pressed to see a target 2 miles away.....
 

Jon855

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Originally posted by: Prong
Are you looking to buy or build? For an off the shelf rig, a .308 or .300 Win mag would work. Serious shooters usually build something like a 6.5-.284, or a 7mm or .30 Baer (8mm Rem mag necked down). The 338 Ultra Mag will do 99% of what the .338 Lapua will do for half price. If you build something bigger like the .300 WM or .338UM, keep the weight (14+ lbs.) up to help tame the recoil.

I already have my Savage 12 Varmit Rifle, the setup is quite nice. I just yet have to zero in my new scopes at 400m. I shoot .22-250 55Gr.
 

xSkyDrAx

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a 50.cal of course! i mean a real man would use no less! There will be no target once you're done !
 
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