Which card would be a worthwhile upgrade from a GTX 460?

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edplayer

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1st choice: Get a 2nd GTX 460
2nd choice: Wait till the GTX 570 is on sale for $250 or less. Assuming this happens within 3 months or less (already happened once). If its September and you still haven't bought a card, wait till next gen
 

skipsneeky2

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munky at least when he isnt gaming he could join our folding team if he isnt already folding heard those 460s punch out pretty decent numbers
 

skipsneeky2

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ed the waiting game sucks he could sell his current gtx460 for $150 and pay the $250 for a uber gtx570 version
 

edplayer

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well $150 sounds optimistic for a used GTX 460. $120 and less sounds more realistic. $150 could get him another 460 and he would have to wait for a $250 GTX 570 because I don't think any of them are selling at that price right now.
 

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A lot of great recommendations here. I personally had two Palit 1gb GTX460s in sli (for about a month) and I was not happy with it.

I then upgraded to two Sapphire 6950's 2gb each and then xfire'd them..

I see most games perform flawlessly with just one 6950 when I dont game in eyefinity resolutions (and stick to just one monitor @ 1920x1080)
 

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Just reduce the resolution to 1280x800 and settle for occasional dips to 30fps then you can have all max quality settings (including 4x msaa). Your graphics card will be rendering only ~1/2 the pixels it would be vs. 1920x1080 and the frame rate will still be fairly smooth.

There is no need to play at 1920x1080 IMO. Resolutions like 1920x1080 are the biggest waste of resources in the world.
 

Jacky60

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6990 -buy one (or two) now, they really rule and are a massive improvement and they hold their value way better than single GPU cards. For example I sold my 5970 for £350 and my 5870 for £122, they cost £529 and £330 respectively. Then next time you upgrade you'll have more cash to deploy and a better gaming experience by far in the interim. Shogun 2/Metro 2033 I know require a LOT of power, certainly with metro 2033 you won't get near max settings and good fps even at your resolution with a 6950/570. From the maths above the cost of owning a dual gpu enthusiast radeon card after a year of use is actually lower than for a single gpu mainstream card (probably including electricity as well) AND you get a much better experience as well. Counter-intuitive but its a no-brainer.
Also those incremental performance upgrades of 6970's/560 ti's etc are not going to rock your boat and newer games will make an upgrade necessary in a few months time and 2gb ram per gpu is becoming necessary (battlefield 3 is on the horizon). AMD cards offer more bang per buck at the moment so alternatively get 2 6950's 2GB and unlock them. Same ballpark performance but cheaper now but less resale value later.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4209/amds-radeon-hd-6990-the-new-single-card-king/9

Check ebay completed sales search for an idea of what cards sell for but I'd imagine the situation is similar in other countries.
 
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toyota

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Just reduce the resolution to 1280x800 and settle for occasional dips to 30fps then you can have all max quality settings (including 4x msaa). Your graphics card will be rendering only ~1/2 the pixels it would be vs. 1920x1080 and the frame rate will still be fairly smooth.

There is no need to play at 1920x1080 IMO. Resolutions like 1920x1080 are the biggest waste of resources in the world.
sorry but that is silly. I have played every demanding game out there at 1920x1080 even on my gtx260 by just using common sense with settings. max quality settings and AA looks like shit at 1280x720 on a 1920x1080 monitor as opposed to just reducing a few settings at the native res. if you honestly cant see how bad it looks running a really low not native resolution then you are no position to even talk about visuals.
 
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Jacky60

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sorry but that is silly. I have played every demanding game out there at 1920x1080 even on my gtx260 by just using common sense with settings. max quality settings and AA looks like shit at 1280x720 on a 1920x1080 monitor as opposed to just reducing a few settings at the native res. if you honestly cant see how bad it looks running a really low not native resolution then you are no position to even talk about visuals.


I have to agree, the suggestion is utterly bonkers and akin to suggesting buying a smaller monitor and just downgrading his/her expectations. The OP wants an improvement not a downgrade and the patronising idea they should be satisfied with that.
 

OCGuy

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Just reduce the resolution to 1280x800 and settle for occasional dips to 30fps then you can have all max quality settings (including 4x msaa). Your graphics card will be rendering only ~1/2 the pixels it would be vs. 1920x1080 and the frame rate will still be fairly smooth.

There is no need to play at 1920x1080 IMO. Resolutions like 1920x1080 are the biggest waste of resources in the world.

Oh geez...
 

Rifter

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Just reduce the resolution to 1280x800 and settle for occasional dips to 30fps then you can have all max quality settings (including 4x msaa). Your graphics card will be rendering only ~1/2 the pixels it would be vs. 1920x1080 and the frame rate will still be fairly smooth.

There is no need to play at 1920x1080 IMO. Resolutions like 1920x1080 are the biggest waste of resources in the world.

you cant be serious
 
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I disagree with him. I say to game at 640X480 resolution. Just make sure you have a 14" monitor because it tends to be kinda blurry.
 

edplayer

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sorry but that is silly. I have played every demanding game out there at 1920x1080 even on my gtx260 by just using common sense with settings. max quality settings and AA looks like shit at 1280x720 on a 1920x1080 monitor as opposed to just reducing a few settings at the native res. if you honestly cant see how bad it looks running a really low not native resolution then you are no position to even talk about visuals.



I agree with this. Native res with whatever compromises you need to do to get it to run to your satisfaction looks WAY better than using a lower resolution and max details.

This is also why I probably won't be upgrading my videocard for a while. I have a GTX 460 768MB right now and I'm very happy with it. Worst case scenario is something like Metro 2033 where it runs well at Normal settings (I believe there are High and Very High/Ultra or custom settings so its down a few notches from max) so I can keep what I have now and max out the vast majority of games or upgrade for a few hundred dollars and gain the ability to add AA to some games and add AA plus some more filters to a tiny handful of them. I'm at 1920x1080
 

skipsneeky2

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I just bought a new MSI 460 1GB for $150 so yeah, used at $150 is not likely.

The last time i saw the prices for the gtx460 it was in the $200 range,guess im behind on the times with gpu prices im sorry

To bad im pass the 15 day return on my gtx580 cause i would have went for dual gtx460s in favour of the gtx580.

After bad experiences with crossfire for me i guess a single gpu is my best option.
 

edplayer

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The GTX 460 1GB is still close to $200 when you buy at regular prices. We we're talking about sale pricing. Its pretty easy to find a 1GB version for around $160 or less almost any day. I've seen $140 prices a few times and the cheapest I've seen is $130.


just checked newegg: Cheapest is a EVGA version for $135AR
 
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bryanW1995

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SLI all the way...none of these other cards being suggested will be worth the money.

I think that the 560 ti for $150 AR is the deal to get. That's so good I'm considering it...

i had a gtx460 for a couple days till i got tired of the heat the stupid thing put out,maybe cause it was a cheap pny one from best buy which i returned pretty quickly in favour of a gtx580,for me i play right now mainly just bc2 and the difference in the cards was night and day but i would think a gtx570 is the first worthy card in consideration,sorry for my lack of ati suggestions in threads,ive had multiple cards with driver horror stories from dual 5770 to a single 6850 and then a 6990

Huh? you were so so upset by the heat generated by your gtx 460 that you bought a significantly HOTTER card? I could see you wanting more performance, but I question whether you've even actually owned either card if you think that a gtx 460 is hot.
 
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Aristotelian

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Noticeable "micro-stuttering" is mostly garbage.

Did you play through The Witcher (the original) or Metro 2033? For some reason in both of those games there is stuttering, beyond any shadow of a doubt (i.e., it's objective. If you have eyes, you'll notice it). That's on 580s in SLI.

Having said that, in the vast majority of the games I play it does not occur.
 

skipsneeky2

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I think that the 560 ti for $150 AR is the deal to get. That's so good I'm considering it...



Huh? you were so so upset by the heat generated by your gtx 460 that you bought a significantly HOTTER card? I could see you wanting more performance, but I question whether you've even actually owned either card if you think that a gtx 460 is hot.

Well the gtx460 was a hold me over card till i got paid and could afford the gtx580..

The pny had a cheap cooler even with the fan on full speed it was hitting 74cel on load

My gtx580 even when my room is hot never has hit over 64cel yet and most times it never goes over 55cel when my room is cool.
Been folding on the gtx580 since yesterday afternoon the current temp is 58 cel according to msi afterburner and my room is about 90 fah

Yes both cards were in the same case and same build all case fans in the antec 900 at full speed captain.
 

cardshark828

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Thanks for all the advice guys. I decided to go for another GTX 460. I've just installed the 2nd card, and everything seems to be working, but there is a problem. As I type this my GPU temp in Speedfan is showing as 56c. That is while I'm basically idling with only firefox running. When I was running a single 460 the GPU temp was around 30-35c when idle. Also my CPU temp is currently 46c when it used to average around 32 when idling. Is it normal to have increased temperatures when SLI'ing?
 

skipsneeky2

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The GTX 460 1GB is still close to $200 when you buy at regular prices. We we're talking about sale pricing. Its pretty easy to find a 1GB version for around $160 or less almost any day. I've seen $140 prices a few times and the cheapest I've seen is $130.


just checked newegg: Cheapest is a EVGA version for $135AR

Not bad price wise for that card.

Cant wait till the gtx580 drops to $350 or hell freezes over whichever happens first ill welcome it,then i could sli this card
 

toyota

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Well the gtx460 was a hold me over card till i got paid and could afford the gtx580..

The pny had a cheap cooler even with the fan on full speed it was hitting 74cel on load

My gtx580 even when my room is hot never has hit over 64cel yet and most times it never goes over 55cel when my room is cool.
Been folding on the gtx580 since yesterday afternoon the current temp is 58 cel according to msi afterburner and my room is about 90 fah

Yes both cards were in the same case and same build all case fans in the antec 900 at full speed captain.
gtx580 uses way more power thus puts out way more heat. the temp on the gpu is just an indication of how good the cooling solution is at that spot.

and those sure are some crazy low temps for a gtx580 that I have never seen in any review. and you actually play games in a room that is 90 degrees F?
 

skipsneeky2

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gtx580 uses way more power thus puts out way more heat. the temp on the gpu is just an indication of how good the cooling solution is at that spot.

and those sure are some crazy low temps for a gtx580 that I have never seen in any review. and you actually play games in a room that is 90 degrees F?

Sometimes sure im used to hot climates so the heat does'nt bother me much.

Your right the card does have a incredibly good cooling solution.

I think most reviews dont actually use a antec 900 with fans on full speed,if they used a case with high airflow perhaps they would get the same readings.

Why i wont ever let my antec 900 go,been using it since 2006 in every build without fail,awesome airflow:thumbsup:
 
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