which city would you live if you have the choice?

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sportage

Lifer
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San Diego was super if you have a good income. But it's changing and not for the better. Getting more and more like LA.

Hawaii? Naw.
Hawaii sounds wonderful but too many people burn out with island living after a few years. I always tell people that if you want to move to Hawaii, have two solid plans. A plan to move to, and a plan to escape from. Plus, the natives have a real attitude towards outsiders.
That might be part of the potential burnout.

I always wanted to try Atlanta or NY.
Never cared for Florida.
Minneapolis is cool but so damn cold.
Nice winter sports. Trendy. Beautiful. But damn cold.

San Francisco is friendly with that feeling of independence from the old automobile.
Cable cars, subways, a true feeling of harmony with the city.
But also, expensive. And much colder than I expected.

Now, if it were me, I'd give Seattle a try.
Or maybe Atlanta.
 

Insomniator

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Oct 23, 2002
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I wouldn't think 1k would rent a nice 1BR apartment in any of those cities, maybe in the ghetto areas of them.
 

vi edit

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Don't see Chicago on your list. It gets 4 true seasons of weather, a great town for sports, quite diverse, and has almost any amenity you could want. People are friendly, housing isn't absolutely insane for a major metro area, and there are many major companies represented.

Downsides are that you get four *real* seasons. Cold winters. Hot summers. Nice springs and glorious falls. It's in IL and has the tax burden to go with it. It's in IL and you'll have to fly or drive a long ways to get to anything interesting.

(edit it is safe, it's like most cities where most violent crime is limited to very specific areas)
 

RockinZ28

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Wouldn't live or work in a large city by choice, screw traffic.

My rent for a 1bdrm like 25 miles from downtown L.A. in a so-so place was $1k/mo back in 2009. I'd imagine prices have gone up quite a bit, and the closer you get to L.A. the more expensive it becomes.
 

child of wonder

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Aug 31, 2006
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Denver for me. Lived in Minnesota my whole life and I'm sick and tired of the weather and mosquitos. Denver seems like a nice compromise between warmer weather yet not too hot.
 

Kev

Lifer
Dec 17, 2001
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San Diego, they have the happiest, nicest people of any place I've been to.
 

Sho'Nuff

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Portland, Maine. Great food. Great nightlife. Close to just about anything you could want (sking, ocean, hiking, major cities, etc.)
 

pete6032

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Someone mentioned Boise as a joke but Boise is one of the next up-and-coming places. Boise is like Portland was in the 90s. Also worth a look are Austin and Salt Lake City.

Seattle is the most modern you mentioned. Minneapolis, if you don't mind the cold, is the affordable version of Seattle - same quality of life but much cheaper.
 
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feralkid

Lifer
Jan 28, 2002
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"all over the us"

haha,your better off moving to a different country.considering the future of america aint lookin to good for the ones who actually want to work for a living

English Major?
 

JamesV

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I'm fairly happy where I am, but if I was to move I would love a place where I own a large parcel of land, like maybe a few acres surrounded by bush, and where there are zero by laws or any rules on how I live. I just want to build what I want how I want, and do what I want. I'd also want it to be near a lake so I can have a boat and go fishing and stuff. Also would be ideal if it's not that far from a town so I can have an address or PO box there at least so I can get stuff delivered to.

I would want to live fairly self sufficient but still go in town for luxeries. I'd have some solar panels, wind turbines and other renewable energy sources to power all my stuff and have an indoor heated greenhouse for food etc... Since lot of that stuff I can't exactly build myself in the middle of the woods, plenty of spare parts for everything too. Basically be self sufficient but also have some luxeries. I'd also run fibre so I can have internet, perhaps even have a small data center there to host servers, which is what would give me a reoccurring income.

Of course, I may as well be asking for a unicorn too as no such place exists.

What you are talking about is called "Homesteading", and those places do exist.

Running fiber to it would be the only thing I'm unsure of, and if you could, you'd probably have to pay for it to be run out there. My buddy has 20 acres in a rural area that has sewer and electric, and isn't far from large cities (10-15 minutes), but it cost him $3,000 to run cable from the road to his house. Granted he ran electric at the same time, so don't know how that effects price.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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Melbourne, VIC Australia if a big city, San Clemente CA if I wanted something smaller.
 

Chapbass

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Don't see Chicago on your list. It gets 4 true seasons of weather, a great town for sports, quite diverse, and has almost any amenity you could want. People are friendly, housing isn't absolutely insane for a major metro area, and there are many major companies represented.

Downsides are that you get four *real* seasons. Cold winters. Hot summers. Nice springs and glorious falls. It's in IL and has the tax burden to go with it. It's in IL and you'll have to fly or drive a long ways to get to anything interesting.

(edit it is safe, it's like most cities where most violent crime is limited to very specific areas)

I agree with this. Safety is not much of an issue unless you're in a really rough area. Those areas are really bad, but most people (especially people on here, ATOTers...) wouldn't live there.

Chicago summer is absolutely awesome. Housing isn't crazy, tons of stuff going on all the time, people are pretty nice in general, solid public transit limits the traffic issue (and its not nearly as bad as LA). Winter is rough, especially this last one. And yeah, it isn't like the west or east coast where theres lots of cities clumped together. Cities close to Chicago: Milwaukee (meh), Madison (okay), Indianapolis (eh, and thats 4hours)...oh and the great city of Gary...
 

DT4K

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Jan 21, 2002
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Portland from May to September.
San Diego for the rest of the year.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Soccorro NM but, there aren't any jobs there except at the university. In general, I'd prefer living in a town of 20,000 or less.
 
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