Which drill should I buy?

[ManBearPig]

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[natto fire]

I think Walmart has a decent return policy, so thats good. I wouldn't mind the a Ryobi tool because they have the lifetime warranty, which is nice. Another thing about all these powerful drills i have seen people recommend is that they are kind of heavy. If I can get away with it not being heavy that'd be great.

Brushless tools are lighter, but they usually start around $200 or so. 12v brushless, less than 3 lbs and still 325in-lbs of torque

I would compare the weight of the bostitch to the ryobi and go with whichever is lighter and feels better in your hand, if you have a Wal-Mart and Home Depot near you. The bostitch seems to be a lighter drill, but it might be worth it to check the grip as well.

 

[ringtail]

www.cpotools.com

What they call "reconditioned" is, in my experience several times now, PERFECT.

Don't know for sure, but suspect they dump brand new factory overproduction stuff as "reconditioned". The several Bosch power tools I've bought from CTO have all been absolutely PERFECT, not even the tiniest scratch anywhere, not even on the case. That's why I suspect they're really brand new.

Anyway, they have exactly the same warranty as a brand new tool so CTO is a great place to buy!

Craftsman lately cheapened the brand so much I won't buy Craftsman again. Their hand tools used to almost up to the ultra quality of Snap-On Tools, but they stupidly cheapened that away. Latest Craftsman sockets I bought break easily- their top of line proved of inferior quality.

Also cheapened down to near junk level are Black & Decker, Ryobi.

Go for blue Bosch, turquoise Makita, red/black Skil, red Milwaukee, orange Ridgid, lots of guys love yellow Dewalt (it's really only beefed-up Black & Decker but their sales enterprise has marketed the hell outta the Dewalt brand so now it's widely accepted. I personally don't prefer Dewalt).

If soneone can afford it, Festool is better (ymmv). I've bought 3 Festool power tools recently that are superior.

I used to think Makita and Skill were so good you can't believe it, but my experience is that Festool is even better!l (but expensive)

I'd guess they're mostly all produced in only a few factories in China/Taiwan & Thailand, with slight tweaks in specifications requested by various merchandising companies that own the brand names everybody recognizes. THose well-known brand names probably are not the actual manufactursers, but are just the merchandisers, the promoters. Merchandising is like that.

One thing to consider is INTERCHANGEABILITY OF THE BATTERIES!!!!

 

[Papa Hogan]

What are you using the drill for? That is an impact driver, so it will not be very good for drilling holes. It is mostly meant to put drill screws into harder surfaces, like metal/wood studs, steel beams, etc.

I like to stick to either Rigid or Makita. It used to be Dewalt, but Makita has passed Dewalt in quality and engineering. I work for a carpentry company, and the Makita's and Rigid last the longest.

EDIT: If you want the ability to do both. Here is a nice set. It is a little higher than what you were linking, but it has both tools, and will allow you to do pretty much any drilling you need.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/RIDGID-1...mbo-Kit-2-Tool-R96862N/203070347#.UlLMCRBvDio

That seems to be good info, given your experience, so I think I will keep this thread in case I forget for whatever reason.

 

[iRONic]

I know that, but your link "GENIUS" showed all those to be 1/2" shanks.

Perhaps learn to link better.

I stated they can be had in 3/8", but it's not standard to find them locally in many places.

Ahahaha! You dickless acrobat, perhaps learn to read better.

Let's review;

Alky, I actually do need to put a peep hole on the door of the house my brother just bought, that's one reason I need a drill, haha. You're saying I have to get the 1/2" models for me to be able to do this? Sorry for the questions; i don't know much about these (just that some are 3/8" and some are 1/2", whatever that means).

Op doesn't know the difference in chuck sizes.

You can buy one bit with a reduced shank to fit the chuck of the drill you haven't bought yet.

Link

I link him a pic of deming bit so he can see that 3/8 or 1/2 chucks will drill a large peep hole regardless of which drill he buys.

Summary;

FOAD

 

[alkemyst]

Yeah he mad, those still wouldnt work with a 3/8" chuck so fix your link, and it was already discussed about reduced shanks in the thread. Finding 3/8" shanks in larger bits is usually more difficult locally.

YWTI.

 

[momeNt]

There are more than just traditional "drill bits" if you want to drill holes for things like peep holes in wood.

Want to cut a 9/16" hole in wood?

Why would you use a drill bit for wood finishing like a peep hole? Drill bits are used for pilot holes. You use a woodboring spade for finish work like a peep hole.

If you have a metal door that's a different story, lots of other ways to tackle that project.

 

[alkemyst]

There are more than just traditional "drill bits" if you want to drill holes for things like peep holes in wood.

Want to cut a 9/16" hole in wood?

Why would you use a drill bit for wood finishing like a peep hole? Drill bits are used for pilot holes. You use a woodboring spade for finish work like a peep hole.

If you have a metal door that's a different story, lots of other ways to tackle that project.

Spade bits don't work well for preexisting holes.

A standard drill bit is fine for putting in peepholes in either metal or wood esp. the former.

 

[momeNt]

Spade bits don't work well for preexisting holes.

A standard drill bit is fine for putting in peepholes in either metal or wood esp. the former.

What if

-you only have a 3/8 drill because you got bad advice on a forum and like a lot of idiots on this forum, had alkemyst on ignore?

-Couldn't afford / didn't want to buy the 1/2"

-didn't have a MINO friend who would lend you a 1/2" drill.

 

[rudeguy]

approaching 200 posts for a drill?

Isn't the OP just going to drill a peep hole?

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DC970K-...cordless+drill

Sold by Amazon so if you don't like it, they will credit you no hassle.

 

[highland145]

What if

-you only have a 3/8 drill because you got bad advice on a forum and like a lot of idiots on this forum, had alkemyst on ignore?

-Couldn't afford / didn't want to buy the 1/2"

-didn't have a MINO friend who would lend you a 1/2" drill.

Wood dowell + glue....do over.

 

[iRONic]

approaching 200 posts for a drill?

Isn't the OP just going to drill a peep hole?

http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DC970K-...cordless+drill

Sold by Amazon so if you don't like it, they will credit you no hassle.

OP will update in two months. Patience...

 

[alkemyst]

OP will update in two months. Patience...

Give him a break, for some dropping $100 on a tool they won't be using all the time is a serious expense.

 

[alkemyst]

Wood dowell + glue....do over.

Providing it matches and you don't have steel or fiber glass door [unless you said + refinishing]

 

[BoomerD]

I think Walmart has a decent return policy, so thats good. I wouldn't mind the a Ryobi tool because they have the lifetime warranty, which is nice. Another thing about all these powerful drills i have seen people recommend is that they are kind of heavy. If I can get away with it not being heavy that'd be great.

FWIW, Ryobi does NOT have a lifetime warranty.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/0d/0d483a5d-75e2-46ef-a2c3-19b7b0e86d89.pdf

 

[phucheneh]

Give him a break, for some dropping $100 on a tool they won't be using all the time is a serious expense.

But he's been presented with all his options. Don't be choosy and go spend ~50 bucks on something at Sears or Home Depot that will do the job. Or spend a little more on a good entry-level Dewalt or Makita.

Yes, there are other options, but for simplicity, I would rec those two brands simply because the have the largest presence in the consumer market. Consistent bang/buck, easily available and whatnot. For the hardware store brands, everything is probably pretty similar. As is, quite honestly, some of the stuff at Harbor Freight. At that level, I am much more concerned with the quality of the batteries (prob 'battery' singular) and charger than I am the tool itself. Hit-and-miss, at best.

Can anyone say they really ever had a Craftsman (or similar) with NiMH batts (or Li-Ion, but those tools are all still relatively new) go on for years of service? The batteries have usually all but completely shit themselves within 2-3 years. Sometimes way less. Whereas in like 6-7 years I've yet to throw away a Makita battery. I have two with broken casings, but I still use them. Most people probably won't have that kind of 'wear and tear'.

 

[ManBearPig]

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[highland145]

Providing it matches and you don't have steel or fiber glass door [unless you said + refinishing]

You know, most of my customers use duct tape.

 

[bootdsc]

You know, most of my customers use duct tape.

Since the other thread was locked before i could reply and your reply doesn't seem sarcastic or angry here is our contact info, phone 1-866 344-7851 email info@acceleronrecovery.com. The percentage is based on the type of debt, I'm not a sales guy though, I'm the IT Manager. open 8am to 5pm mon-fri.

 

[videogames101]

Milwaukee tools are absolute beasts, or at least they were - I don't know how quality has fared since they were bought out.

 

[sdifox]

I'm definitely getting lithium ion batteries. I'll wait until right around Christmas and get something. I saw a Milwaukee m18 on sale the other day but it was a little more than I want to spend. I may likely go over my budget lol...

just order a new prehung door with peep hole :awe:

 

[highland145]

Since the other thread was locked before i could reply and your reply doesn't seem sarcastic or angry here is our contact info, phone 1-866 344-7851 email info@acceleronrecovery.com. The percentage is based on the type of debt, I'm not a sales guy though, I'm the IT Manager. open 8am to 5pm mon-fri.

Thanks. I'd be happy to sell my bad debt.

 

[sdifox]

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-B...6887140&sr=1-8


There is a 10 dollar off right now, the two battery one would become 87.72, not a bad deal.


this Makita 18v compact hammer drill is eligible for 25 off, making it 147.16

http://www.amazon.com/Makita-LXPH01...ower-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1386887398&sr=1-1

 

[rudeguy]

I hope like hell the OP signed up for secret santa

 

[sdifox]

I hope like hell the OP signed up for secret santa

lulz he'll get a picture of a peep hole and a picture of a drill :biggrin:

It's been two months, still no peep hole for op :awe: