10x Pioneer slot load (104S) rocks
pickerd: the 104S makes an unbearable high sound when using data cd's, but it's very quiet when reading DVD's and audio cd's. I swear, it's REALLY unbearable to listen to data cd's, so I use my burner for game cd's, and the DVD drive for DVD/audio/install cd's. works nicely and the slot load is LOVELY. I'm really surprised this wasn't a hit earlier.