Which fan for SI-120?

[Leros]

I'm looking at ordering the SI-120 from Jab-tech. I keep hearing to get a Panaflo fan, but they offer five kinds: L1A, M1A, M1BX, H1BX, U1A. I have no idea which one to get.

SI-120 @ Jab-tech

 

[egale]

The L1A is what they recommend. It is the quietest of the bunch. It is a good sturdy fan but not that quiet unfortunately.

 

[Leros]

Is there a better 120mm fan to get? I gotta keep an overclocked 3800+ x2 cool, however I want my pc to be as quiet as possible.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

I got some Panaflos here. They will be posted in FS/OT soon.

Don't cry about the price. Get a very good fan.

Delta Triple Blade 120x25, 57cfm @ 31dB. sidewindercomputer.com is OOS.
epowerhousepc.com has them in stock. Twice the fan a Pan ever was.
You will not need more than 57cfm. 45 is plenty but it's nice to have headroom.
All Delta Triples have a for real sensor wire. No shens like most Pans.


...Galvanized

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

are you going to be using a fan controller or anything on this fan?

 

[Leros]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
I got some Panaflos here. They will be posted in FS/OT soon.

Don't cry about the price. Get a very good fan.

Delta Triple Blade 120x25, 57cfm @ 31dB. sidewindercomputer.com is OOS.
epowerhousepc.com has them in stock. Twice the fan a Pan ever was.
You will not need more than 57cfm. 45 is plenty but it's nice to have headroom.
All Delta Triples have a for real sensor wire. No shens like most Pans.


...Galvanized

Did you not like the Panaflos? Are the deltas just more cfm for the money?

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: JToxic

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
I got some Panaflos here. They will be posted in FS/OT soon.

Don't cry about the price. Get a very good fan.

Delta Triple Blade 120x25, 57cfm @ 31dB. sidewindercomputer.com is OOS.
epowerhousepc.com has them in stock. Twice the fan a Pan ever was.
You will not need more than 57cfm. 45 is plenty but it's nice to have headroom.
All Delta Triples have a for real sensor wire. No shens like most Pans.


...Galvanized

Did you not like the Panaflos? Are the deltas just more cfm for the money?

I second the deltas. Wonderful fans, especially if you get a powerful one, and toss it on a fan controller.

 

[scrawnypaleguy]

I was considering the exact same cooler, and found this Silverstone 120mm fan. It pushes 53 cfm at 26dBA. These specs are probably fudged, but I find that the cfm claims are more reliable than the dBA claims, so it should push plenty of air, just connect it to a fan controller and/or monitor your rpms through the motherboard. Panflo's usually don't have the rpm connector.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

The Delta Triples undervolt better, they ALL have a tach wire that isn't pretend, they have quality ball bearings so there is never any clicking when undervolted, they are lighter in weight, they cost a couple of bucks more.

Ball bearing fans hold their quality of operation longer than sleeve bearing fans. This point maybe a non-issue if you change fans often but good BB fans last for years.

I like'em. I have three 92mm and one 120mm DTB.

Now the Panaflo and Yate Loon boys will beat me up


...Galvanized

 

[timecop67]

I really like my BX 120mm Panflo on my thermalright SI-120... the fan that pushes about 103cfm. I undervolt through the motherboard bios options to about 10v under full load and about 6v at idle. Pretty quiet and good cooling. I bought mine at Sidewinder. I'm at 28-30c at idle and 38C at full load now. Model of Panflo #FBA12G12H
www.sidewindercomputers.com/pa12hisp.html

 

[zest]

Hmm.

I was thinking of a setup somthing like this for my P4. 640 and case cooling..

ThermalRight SP-120/ Panaflo FB-120-L1A or Panaflo FBA12G12H1BX*
Intake- Panaflo FB-120-L1A* or SilverStone FM121

Exhaust- Panaflo FB-120-L1A*or SilverStone FM121


How important is rpm monitoring...Can panaflo's not be hooked up to a sontroller like
fan-mate or something?



* Delta Triple Blade 120x25, 57cfm @ 31dB
Panaflo FB-120-L1A 13 120mm ' 69cfm @ 30db

 

[starwars7]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
I got some Panaflos here. They will be posted in FS/OT soon.

Don't cry about the price. Get a very good fan.

Delta Triple Blade 120x25, 57cfm @ 31dB. sidewindercomputer.com is OOS.
epowerhousepc.com has them in stock. Twice the fan a Pan ever was.
You will not need more than 57cfm. 45 is plenty but it's nice to have headroom.
All Delta Triples have a for real sensor wire. No shens like most Pans.


...Galvanized

Is this the Delta Triple Blade you were talking about?
http://epowerhousepc.com/product_info.php?products_id=582

I am curious why its called a "Low Speed" fan? Also, why only 3 blades, that seems like it would be a disadvantage, but I'm new to PC construction.

I just purchased a case with only 1X120 (Cooler Master 532 Centurion, they had a really nice deal at newegg a couple days ago) so I need a nice high quality exhaust fan, and from this thread it sounds like the Delta is the best.

Thank you!

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

It is low speed, because the rpm is low compared to the other Delta Triple Blade fans. Even the low speed ones move good air; I have those installed now. And the 3 blade design is far from a detriment for these fans. The DTB and Sanyo Denki fans are now my favorites.

 

[starwars7]

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
It is low speed, because the rpm is low compared to the other Delta Triple Blade fans. Even the low speed ones move good air; I have those installed now. And the 3 blade design is far from a detriment for these fans. The DTB and Sanyo Denki fans are now my favorites.

Oh ok, so would it be better to have a Delta that was not low RPM?

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
The Delta Triples undervolt better, they ALL have a tach wire that isn't pretend, they have quality ball bearings so there is never any clicking when undervolted, they are lighter in weight, they cost a couple of bucks more.

Ball bearing fans hold their quality of operation longer than sleeve bearing fans. This point maybe a non-issue if you change fans often but good BB fans last for years.

I like'em. I have three 92mm and one 120mm DTB.

Now the Panaflo and Yate Loon boys will beat me up

...Galvanized

As Galvanized knows, Ive never had an issue with my Panaflos. Using 2 x 120mm and 1 x 92mm Panaflo L1A, Ive had them attached to my motherboard headers, used them with a 7v-12v PWM controller and now sitting on my Sunbeam Rheobus (same one as Galvanized recommended to me), Ive never experienced a so-called clicking at any voltage. Also, Id have to dig it out but I think my 92mm Panaflo has been going for 2 years now, nowhere near 24/7 but still going strong whether at full 12v or on controller.

Not to cast doubt on what Galvanized says, just giving my personal experience with them.

Now, looking at those DTB's doesnt convince me that they are quiet enough. My Panaflo's at around 7v blend into the background noise of my PC which I guess means I have some quietening work left to do, which is being partially remedied by my latest order due in a week or 2.

If I can find some DTB's in the UK, I might get a couple of to see what the fuss is about.

 

[Fullmetal Chocobo]

Originally posted by: starwars7

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
It is low speed, because the rpm is low compared to the other Delta Triple Blade fans. Even the low speed ones move good air; I have those installed now. And the 3 blade design is far from a detriment for these fans. The DTB and Sanyo Denki fans are now my favorites.

Oh ok, so would it be better to have a Delta that was not low RPM?

If you are going to have it on a fan controller. It just depends upon what you need. Most setups, more than ~50 cfm is just unnecessary. I'm going from Low Speed to High Speed just to get more airflow in the area of the processors, not necessarily just on them...

 

[starwars7]

The prices for the Panaflos and the Deltas seem to be about on the same level. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to optimize this case: COOLER MASTER Centurion 532 .

It currently has one Cooler Master 120x25mm front Intake fan. And a mount for a rear Exhaust fan, their site refers to it as an "Optional" 120x25mm fan.

With that in mind, do you guys think the Cooler Master intake should get the job done?
Also, should I use a Triple Blade High Speed or a Triple Blade Low Speed fan for Exhaust?
Finally, is there any harm in using a 120x38mm for Exhaust instead of a 120X25?

EDIT:

Originally posted by: Fullmetal Chocobo
Most setups, more than ~50 cfm is just unnecessary. I'm going from Low Speed to High Speed just to get more airflow in the area of the processors, not necessarily just on them...

Thanks Fullmetal Chocobo, we must have been typing at the same time.

 

[imported_Chilly]

I too am looking for a fan for the SI120. I was looking at the Nexus or Scythe S-Flex for quiet operation. I am just wondering what protection people have from a heatsink fan failing while being plugged into a fan controller? Shouldn't I always use the motherboard to monitor fan speed? Since most use PWM, should I look for a good ball-bearing fan if I plug the fan into a MB header?

 

[Pens1566]

M1BX on a Zalman 6 channel fan controller turned down all the way.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: Chilly
I too am looking for a fan for the SI120. I was looking at the Nexus or Scythe S-Flex for quiet operation. I am just wondering what protection people have from a heatsink fan failing while being plugged into a fan controller? Shouldn't I always use the motherboard to monitor fan speed? Since most use PWM, should I look for a good ball-bearing fan if I plug the fan into a MB header?

Chilly Willy=Great kids cartoon Welcome to the Forums Chilly.

Search this forum, Cases&Cooling and Google reviews of the fan linked below.
It's a high quality ball bearing fan with a tach/sensor feed wire.
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ak12amseulqu.html
This is a low wattage fan. Plug it into the MB header. Ppl that use high output/wattage
fans on thier HS will use a controller, then just plug the sensor wire in the MB header.

I would not doubt the specs of this fan as I would a ThermalTake or SilenX.

NOTE: The reason I prefer the DTB over my Pans is that they undervolt much better,
they are high quality ball bearing, they all have a tach/sensor wire and the noise they
make at full song is not the irritating rip of a multi-bladed fan.


...Galvanized

 

[imported_Chilly]

Thanks GalvanizedYankee, I am def going to check out the Akasa since BB fans seem to last longer and work better with the PWM MB headers.

Originally posted by: Pens1566
M1BX on a Zalman 6 channel fan controller turned down all the way.

You use an 80mm Panaflo fan for your SI-120? Could I ask why you didn't put on a 120?

 

[nealh]

Nexus or Yate Loon for quiet operation

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: nealh
Nexus or Yate Loon for quiet operation

Oh really now ! I am a very partial to *quality*ball bearing fans. Please read the linked thread.

http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?p=229098#229098

At present I use Delta Triple Blade and Sanyo Denki. The Akasa fans will be used in the
future *if* the cfm meets my needs.

The Yate Loon fans are cheaper, that's all they have going for them IMNSHO.


...Galvanized

 

[Pens1566]

Its a 120.

Link

 

[Kaeishiwaza]

I use a Nexus silent on my Si-120. Yeah, it doesn't have great airflow, but at max speed, it's dead silent. That's the nice thing about the Si-120. A little airflow goes a long way with it. I idle below 30 and peak out just over 50 when stressing.