So the backplate doesn't prevent the cards sagging later on? Is cards sagging even a thing, and should I be concerned?
So the backplate doesn't prevent the cards sagging later on? Is cards sagging even a thing, and should I be concerned?The backplate really doesn't make much of any difference other than the fact it looks cool and kinda protects the back of the card. I wouldn't pay any extra for it, but if 2 have the same price its probably a nice-to-have
That is 18% difference between the cheapest and the most expensive in your list. I would not call that "a little extra", especially when all the cards have the same GPU, so no major performance differences.Among the above list, the cheapest is 28.3k & the costliest is 33.5k, so the price difference is Rs. 5200, which is $75. What I feel is, when I'm spending so much for the card, I'd rather pay a little extra and get the best one out there
Well, I didn't realize its 18% price difference. But still, I don't want to end up with a card that ends up with overheating problems, coil whine, noisy fan, sagging card due to poor structural design, or anything of the sorts. If it's, say, another 2k more, I will pay it, if the card is significantly better in the above regards (My budget: 30k, +upto 2k if it really makes a difference)That is 18% difference between the cheapest and the most expensive in your list. I would not call that "a little extra", especially when all the cards have the same GPU, so no major performance differences.
Good lord, I did not know this. Now I'm scared AF to buy this D:
Reading through the 398 comments didn't help either. There are those saying performance is not affected, & there are those saying it's OK for the games out now, but future games will take a hit with this. Some have complained that games like Dying Light & Borderlands Pre-Sequel have taken a hit with just 1080p resolutions with Ultra settings. Dunno how many of these are genuine comments. I know this is a big controversy and has been discussed elsewhere, but could someone tell me whether it's OK to buy the card with this limitation? I intend to always use a single monitor, never dual or triple screens. I have been gaming at 1920x1080 resolution on my 22" LCD. I might increase this resolution later with the new card. Will this cause any hurdles for gaming the latest titles, and future titles?
Also, Zotac offers 5 years warranty vs 3 years for all other brands.. Its the cheapest as well.. @Rs 26,200/-
www.snapdeal.com/product/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gtx-970/1972009682
Pay the least amount of money as possible for a 970.. Youll have a 5 year warranty to keep you safe..
It's fine if you don't like AMD .. But AMD is selling 8GB 390/390x which performs the same as 970.. Yes it uses 80-90 more watts but it'll perform much at higher resolution / games that need more RAM..
At least inquire about the local AMD 390/390x prices..
Of course the 3.5 GB RAM is going to factor in.. It matters right now and will matter a lot more in 1-2 years.. Let alone the 4-5 years you intend to keep this card. And that too at 1080p..
For 1440p or higher rez, you'd have to dial down on the quality settings in most games..
Most of the members here buy their 970 for $300 or less.. Its a great card for that price.. But, you're buying this 970 for $450-$470
There is a reason why 980ti comes with 6GB because more RAM is and will b needed at higher resolution and in upcoming games..
Don't cripple yourself with a $450 3.5 GB in 2015.. It's 2016 basically.. 970 was released in 2013 i think.. More and more Hi Resolution, affordable /TVs are gonna come out and you'll b kicking yourself in the foot as this card is gonna held you back..
It's fine if you don't like AMD .. But AMD is selling 8GB 390/390x which performs the same as 970.. Yes it uses 80-90 more watts but it'll perform much at higher resolution / games that need more RAM..
At least inquire about the local AMD 390/390x prices..
So the backplate doesn't prevent the cards sagging later on? Is cards sagging even a thing, and should I be concerned?
But hey, Nvidia is THE best company at this. It's why I love them so much as a company. They sell cards that win benchmarks TODAY right NOW. They maximize profits by giving people enough hardware to be great NOW, but don't give much leeway into the future allowing them to sell ANOTHER card later.
How many avid gamers buy a GPU to last 3-5 years? Just like CPUs, the Next Best Thing is always around the corner... and enthusiasts pay the money to stay in the upper tier. GPUs aren't an investment, they are just part of the cost of operation.
Thanks for factoring that in. Yes, this card is overpriced over here. Seems like a good idea to buy this card in the US (have a friend who's coming back from US, could ask him to buy it for me, perhaps). The warranty will be valid in India for a card or any other electronic equipment purchased abroad, right?
I'd say a 390X is a little quicker in most situations and with better DX12 compatibility and more VRAM will age much better on newer games than a 970 Will.
That power difference of 80-90 watts is probably a lot less since for the GTX 970 to match the R9 390/surpass it. It needs a max OC. That difference in actual gaming loads is probably a lot less if the GTX 970 is clocked to match an R9 390.
Honestly though I agree with you. GTX 770 owners who picked up a 2GB VRAM card when new consoles were coming out made me cry. I mean 2GB of VRAM when you know the consoles have a 8GB shared RAM pool? Do you expect your card to last?
OP has 2 choices.
NEVER worry about VRAM again.
or
Worry about VRAM, and pay more to do so......
He has chosen option 2.... I don't get it, but that's his choice.
Edit: I was NOT an AMD fan or even wanted an AMD GPU myself. But it was 2 GB of VRAM in a GTX 680 vs 3 GB VRAM in a HD 7950....
Thank GOD I did not Pay more for the Nvidia GPU back then with LESS VRAM.
Almost laughable to think VRAM future proofs a game. Every year, your top tier card almost becomes a virtual mid range card when new ones are released. 8Gb cards will still get thrashed by newer, lower tiered 4gb ones on release.
Thanks for factoring that in. Yes, this card is overpriced over here. Seems like a good idea to buy this card in the US (have a friend who's coming back from US, could ask him to buy it for me, perhaps). The warranty will be valid in India for a card or any other electronic equipment purchased abroad, right?
Almost laughable to think VRAM future proofs a game. Every year, your top tier card almost becomes a virtual mid range card when new ones are released. 8Gb cards will still get thrashed by newer, lower tiered 4gb ones on release.
Can you honestly tell OP that a 4 GB(3.5 effective) 970 is going to serve him better than a 8 GB 390/390x.. He is buying a new GPU and would then upgrade the rest of his system.. Also, as he's been using 1080p display for some time, would most likely upgrade that as well wih he rest of his system for a bigger / higher rez display.. How well would that 970 hold up then compared to a 390.
How well did a 2GB 680 held up against a 3GB 7970.. Not everyone buys new GFX cards every year for marginally better performance..
Fury X is much more expensive than GTX 970, so if you pay that kind of money you are less willing to compromise.For Nvidia fanboys, they defend the GTX 970 with 3.5 GB of VRAM. Because no games use a lot of VRAM anyway. But the second you talk about the Fury cards (Despite their other shortcomings), it ONLY has 4GB of VRAM vs the GTX 980 Ti 6GB of VRAM.
Huh? I thought 3.5 GB of VRAM was enough right?
Can you honestly tell OP that a 4 GB(3.5 effective) 970 is going to serve him better than a 8 GB 390/390x..
I wasnt talking about the 970 vs 390 per se, just the fact/opinion that higher vram as a criteria on its own for 'future-proofing' doesnt work when GPU power is more the decisive factor. Not to say that games made to use/cache more than 4gb vram wont appear, but historically we've always seen how well newer lower vram cards perform. AMDs GCN architecture is more the reason why their 290/390/390x have continued to do well rather than their higher vram. Wouldnt be surprised of a future 3gb lower mid range card eating todays 8gb cards for breakfast even at higher res.Most likely true but 390 is a faster card than the 970 to begin with and is better positioned for someone to use over 2-3 years.
The 390 is priced at 39,900 and the 390X at 44,900 over here. Yikes!I'd say a 390X is a little quicker in most situations and with better DX12 compatibility and more VRAM will age much better on newer games than a 970 Will.
Good to know. Won't give the backplate any special consideration now.I've never seen a card sag, nor have I ever had a card sag, and I've never bought a card that has a backplate. Except maybe an old GTX 260?
Doubt GPU's have global warranty. Think items like PS/XBox might have though. It's a risk as you said.Unless a brand offers Global warranty, I doubt that the local distributor / service centre is going to honor warranty claim for a card purchased from abroad. Not worth the risk IMO..
I agree, but the 390 is way over my budget. The 6GB 390 costs 39900 here :'(Its not even a fair comparison this time around. Its not 4GB vs 8GB, Its 3.5 vs 8.
That's something to seriously consider now that you mention it. Will have a chat with him.However, if you are saving $100-150 by buying it in the U.S., I would easily take that chance.
Should I try to overclock my CPU? I am very new to that area and have no idea about overclocking and what to watch out for to prevent damages in case it's too much. I haven't even OC'ed my GPU till now!You can also try to order an awesome CPU cooler in the US.......
.....CPU cooler that'll help him hit 4.5-4.8Ghz on a 2500K is a HUGE benefit
Wouldn't that be risky as it's scratched/dented.used parts? The chances of failure will be more, and the no warranty cover abroad issue?Keep an eye out on EVGA B-stock deals too as sometimes 980 drops to $350.
Looks like the the 8GB 390X is the same price in the US as the 970 in India! D:390 is a faster card than the 970 to begin with and is better positioned for someone to use over 2-3 years.
That video looks promising enough. So the 970 is still on the table. The 390 requires more power right? I don't have an issue with power actually, as I have a 750W Seasonics MII12 Bronze, but as the power intake increases, won't the temperatures also shoot up? I dunno whats wrong with my current setup, but when gaming on my GTX 460, the temp remains in 92-96 degrees range. I tried removing the side panel and even keeping the cabinet out of my compact table where there's not enough airflow. (I checked the temps with Tech Powerup GPU-Z). Isn't this a rather high temp range for the card to be in? Or is it OK? And should I restrict myself to lower TDP (?) cards which pull less power (to prevent heating issues when I keep the cabinet back in the computer table)Watch that video OP. If you chose a 390, it is a good card and you will be happy more than likely.
That video looks promising enough. So the 970 is still on the table. The 390 requires more power right? I don't have an issue with power actually, as I have a 750W Seasonics MII12 Bronze, but as the power intake increases, won't the temperatures also shoot up? I dunno whats wrong with my current setup, but when gaming on my GTX 460, the temp remains in 92-96 degrees range. I tried removing the side panel and even keeping the cabinet out of my compact table where there's not enough airflow. (I checked the temps with Tech Powerup GPU-Z). Isn't this a rather high temp range for the card to be in? Or is it OK? And should I restrict myself to lower TDP (?) cards which pull less power (to prevent heating issues when I keep the cabinet back in the computer table)