Which GPU(s) have aged the BEST in the last 3 years?

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i was curious after reading the other thread and since it is based off of such, the ground rules remain the same as the other one:

1. So from 2012 until today. I'm not counting when a GPU was announced but rather when it became available to buy for the mass market.

2. Also, let's look at mainstream cards. So I'm ruling out the Dual GPU/Titan-esque cards for $1000 or above. Same as for the ultra-low end cards. It has to have had a MSRP of 150 dollars or above.

3. Look at launch date MSRP only and compare to how it stacks up today.

4. Finally, ignore factors which couldn't be controlled and just try to look at it objectively if you bought the GPU from the day it became available until today.

i've been really out of the loop for the past few years, since the geforce gtx 5 series and radeon 6 series. but i'd assume the top contenders are the mid-high end cards, like the 560ti.
 
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Mezzanine

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I'd say the 7970 would have to be a contender, it was rebadged as a 280x and I think it's been rebadged again as a 3xx? Still a very capable card performance wise too.
 

RussianSensation

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- In the last 2 years, after-market R9 290/290X
- In the last 3 years, HD7970Ghz/R9 280X

I think if someone picked up a $280 HD7950 by October 2012 and it's overclocked to 1.15-1.2Ghz, that was basically an unbeatable value as that card today easily trades blows with a $450 GTX680 OC and $450 GTX770 4GB. Of course 7970 would be even better but it cost more.

It's not because I own them but I think 7970 OC has exceeded the longevity of 8800GTX / Ultra. It's been almost 4 years since it came out and it can play a lot of modern games well at 1080P. 4 years into its life-cycle, 8800GTX was a dog in comparison. I mentioned before though that it might be a bit unfair to the 8800GTX though because back then graphics advanced at a much faster rate and Crysis 1 wiped the floor with it.
 
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Leyawiin

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I bought an 8800 GTX in December of 2006. I didn't retire it until October of 2010. While its performance fell from top to lower-mid during that period of time I still think I did well with it. Almost four years before an upgrade. As Russian said, GPUs were gaining a lot more performance from each new generation back then.

I bought a used HD 7950 (original non-boost) as a placeholder card about a year and a half ago. I OC'd it to 1100/1400. Its still pretty decent, but doesn't perform any better than the GTX 960 I have in one of my PCs. Considering when it was released and the fact it was the second from the top AMD card at the time that's not bad at all.

The most foolish thing I ever did in my near constant buying and selling was to purchase an ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II in summer of 2012 and getting rid of it just two years later. It would be pretty much as good as the GTX 960 I ended up buying for that second PC.
 
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thesmokingman

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- In the last 2 years, after-market R9 290/290X
- In the last 3 years, HD7970Ghz/R9 280X

I think if someone picked up a $280 HD7950 by October 2012 and it's overclocked to 1.15-1.2Ghz, that was basically an unbeatable value as that card today easily trades blows with a $450 GTX680 OC and $450 GTX770 4GB. Of course 7970 would be even better but it cost more.

It's not because I own them but I think 7970 OC has exceeded the longevity of 8800GTX / Ultra. It's been almost 4 years since it came out and it can play a lot of modern games well at 1080P. 4 years into its life-cycle, 8800GTX was a dog in comparison. I mentioned before though that it might be a bit unfair to the 8800GTX though because back then graphics advanced as a much faster rate and Crysis 1 wiped the floor with it.


On the overclock front and in benchmarks at that time, they were competing well vs Titans in multi-gpu. I had a quad setup that benched over 1340/1850 give or take.
 
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dragantoe

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In decreasing order:

290
290X
7970
7970GHz
7950

Yeah I regret going Nvidia.... They forgot kepler exists and maxwell isn't that interesting aside from the 980 ti. my 660 ti and 760 have not aged well to say the least, despite pulling a 7k 3dmark firestrike graphics score with a stable OC on my 760...
 

RussianSensation

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On the overclock front and in benchmarks at that time, they were competing well vs Titans in multi-gpu. I had a quad setup that benched over 1340/1850 give or take.

1340 on a 7970? That must have been on water and over 1.3V?

I bought an 8800 GTX in December of 2006. I didn't retire it until October of 2010. While its performance fell from top to lower-mid during that period of time I still think I did well with it.

4 years from 8800GTX's launch is when NV released the GTX580.

Geforce 8800GTX 768MB (DX10) -- 53 VP
Geforce GTX 580 1.5GB (DX11) -- 180 VP (3.4X faster!)

In comparison, 980Ti max overclocked is about 2.25-2.3X (2.5X in some games I guess) faster than a max overclocked 7970. In a similar time frame, the 8800GTX aged worse than a 7970 did from a performance point of view. This is why I think 8800GTX can no longer be viewed as legendary as it was prior to 7970's history. In 4 years, the 8800GTX didn't become lower-mid-tier but I would say it was actually low end by our forum's standards. Take a look:

Geforce GTS 450 1GB (DX11) -- 63 VP
Geforce GT 545 1GB (GDDR5) (DX11) -- 56 VP
Geforce GTS 240 1GB (G92) (DX10) -- 50 VP
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2298406

In comparison today, I think of 290/390/970 as upper mid-range so I'd consider 960/7970 as lower mid-range.

I bought a used HD 7950 (original non-boost) as a placeholder card about a year and a half ago. I OC'd it to 1100/1400. Its still pretty decent, but doesn't perform any better than the GTX 960 I have in one of my PCs. Considering when it was released and the fact it was the second from the top AMD card at the time that's not bad at all.

The most foolish thing I ever did in my near constant buying and selling was to purchase an ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II in summer of 2012 and getting rid of it just two years later. It would be pretty much as good as the GTX 960 I ended up buying for that second PC.

Wow, I don't get your upgrade history but I guess for the types of games you play it might make sense to move from 7950 to 670 but moving from 670 to 960 is odd. I think going to 970 would have made way more sense but that's just me. Your post just goes to show how amazing the 7970 aged because by late 2015, a GTX960 OC still cannot outperform an overclocked 7970 overall.

This is even more crazy. 8800GTX cost at least $600 US on launch, and by November 2010, it was easy to find GTX460 for $160 and HD6850 for $180, about what the 960 costs today without a sale. 960 OC is slower than an HD7970 OC and has 50% less VRAM in the base model. In contrast, GTX460 and HD6850 OC were easily 2X faster than the 8800GTX 4 years from its launch.

But it also proves just how horrible the sub-$200 desktop discrete GPU space has become. The new $200 sweet-spot is now $280-350 occupied by cards like 970/390/290X. I think moving forward, the sweet spot for GPUs will be $300-350 as $200 bracket is too much of a compromise in performance. Then again, if we keep getting more console ports, it might be possible to max most games out at 1080P @ 60 fps on a $200 soon. :awe:

my 660 ti and 760 have not aged well to say the least, despite pulling a 7k 3dmark firestrike graphics score with a stable OC on my 760...

Good lesson to not pay attention to inter-brand comparisons of 3DMark scores because there is no game in the world that's made on a 3DMark game engine. Until that happens, 3DMark is best to use as a GPU overclocking stability test.

660Ti/760 were slower against their competing AMD cards to begin with, had less VRAM and worse overclocking scaling/headroom. A 7950 easily dusted them at release and ever since that point. Don't fall for the brand name marketing hype next time. I really can't recall any time when 660Ti/760 even made sense as 7950 was always a better card overall, unless you specifically played games that run way better on NV like WoW or needed NV specific features like PhysX.

I hope the 660Ti / 760 were for separate systems because 760 is barely faster than the 660Ti, about 7-8%.
 
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dragantoe

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My 760 is 4gb and the 660 ti was very competitive with the 7950 for a good year, i went nvidia because i wanted to stream to my shield and the 660 ti was all I could afford. even now though the 660 ti beats the 7870 it replaced. I'd be interested to see how the 760 does against the 7950


edit; just found a battlefront benchmark that is fairly relevant to me

The 760 performs near the 7950, but I think it's worth noting that they used a 2gb model and during gameplay i was using well over 3gb of vram, with a pretty substantial overclock on top of that
 
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Erenhardt

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My 760 is 4gb and the 660 ti was very competitive with the 7950 for a good year, i went nvidia because i wanted to stream to my shield and the 660 ti was all I could afford. even now though the 660 ti beats the 7870 it replaced. I'd be interested to see how the 760 does against the 7950


edit; just found a battlefront benchmark that is fairly relevant to me

The 760 performs near the 7950, but I think it's worth noting that they used a 2gb model and during gameplay i was using well over 3gb of vram, with a pretty substantial overclock on top of that

Nope. 15% is not anywhere near in GPU world. It is: beating, spanking, crushing, blowing out of the water etc...

You will not overclock 760 as much as 7950 even on NO2 cooling
Battlefront doesn't need more than 1 GB (7790 1gb vs 7850 2gb):


760 has problems to match 270X, let alone 7950

$320 660ti was not released against $290 7870 but $330 7950. Now it has fallen to lower bracket struggling against 7870.
In what games 660ti beats 7870 (other than projectcars )?
 

RussianSensation

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My 760 is 4gb and the 660 ti was very competitive with the 7950 for a good year, i went nvidia because i wanted to stream to my shield and the 660 ti was all I could afford. even now though the 660 ti beats the 7870 it replaced. I'd be interested to see how the 760 does against the 7950


edit; just found a battlefront benchmark that is fairly relevant to me

The 760 performs near the 7950, but I think it's worth noting that they used a 2gb model and during gameplay i was using well over 3gb of vram, with a pretty substantial overclock on top of that

I am not sure how you are comparing 660Ti to the 7870 when 7870 was significantly cheaper when 660Ti came out. 660Ti was as expensive as the 7950 cards. 660 was a competitor to the 7870.

660Ti was never really competitive with a 7950 in the hands of an overclocker, and neither was the 760. 7950's stock speed was 800mhz but it overclocked to 1.15-1.25Ghz, at which point it was easily as fast as the HD7970Ghz, which in turn is at least as fast as the 280X.

http://www.legionhardware.com/artic...z_edition_7950_iceq_xsup2_boost_clock,13.html

That means from the chart you linked, an overclocked 7950 would be = 280X = 63 fps.

In comparison a 760 is 43 fps. I am not aware of any 660Ti/760 that can overclock 45% on air.

A solid MSI TwinFrozr III 7950, Gigabyte Windforce 3X 7950, PowerColor PCS+ 7950, Sapphire Vapor-X/Dual-X 7950 were known to hit 1.15-1.25Ghz overclocks and we had a gigantic thread of owners showing this on this very forum. That means for all intents and purposes an after-market 7950 = 280X. 660Ti/760 would have no chance to compete with that.



Anyway, since you had other uses such as streaming Shield games, that's a different story.

Look at modern titles - today a 760 cannot even beat an R7 270X which is a barely higher clocked 7870, not even a 7950.
 

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R9 290 for sure. That thing was priced very well, competitive at launch and continues to improve going forward. Best bang for the buck card for sure.
 

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I'd say the 7970 would have to be a contender, it was rebadged as a 280x and I think it's been rebadged again as a 3xx? Still a very capable card performance wise too.

- In the last 2 years, after-market R9 290/290X
- In the last 3 years, HD7970Ghz/R9 280X

I think if someone picked up a $280 HD7950 by October 2012 and it's overclocked to 1.15-1.2Ghz, that was basically an unbeatable value as that card today easily trades blows with a $450 GTX680 OC and $450 GTX770 4GB. Of course 7970 would be even better but it cost more.

It's not because I own them but I think 7970 OC has exceeded the longevity of 8800GTX / Ultra. It's been almost 4 years since it came out and it can play a lot of modern games well at 1080P. 4 years into its life-cycle, 8800GTX was a dog in comparison. I mentioned before though that it might be a bit unfair to the 8800GTX though because back then graphics advanced at a much faster rate and Crysis 1 wiped the floor with it.

Still using an ASUS R9 280X DCU II TOP 3GB that OC's pretty well myself, I managed to pick it up when brand new pretty cheap before mining prices pushed them up at the time. I only run a Dell 29" WS 2560 x 1080 with it though, on the main screen, but still works pretty well.
 
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Mondozei

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There isn't much difference that I'd have with most of the answers here. I'm curious if we'll see similar things 2 years from now.

In other words, will a 980 Ti be a better GPU 2-3 years from now than a Fury X.
We already know that the 7900-series from AMD beat their competitors from NV.

I'd say that Hawaii has aged better than the 700-series. The only difference is probably the 780 Ti vs the 290X, where the 780 Ti still does a decent job.

But I think this will turn if you look at the new GPUs released this year. (Not counting the 300-series since those are refreshes, not new archs).
Although this depends in no small part on how aggressive devs will be in rolling out DX12.
 

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Well, it is not a surprise, as this is exactly what happens when a gpu maker starts optimizing drivers for the new architecture, while abandoning the prior gen as the money can only be made by selling new cards, not supporting old cards... Lol . It will be interesting to see how AMD treats its furyx/fury cards once it rolls out its own new architecture, I am assuming, by next year.
The theory stated above works best, if one pretends there is no competition, so if you were to just map the NV GPUs, I am certain the trend line would overlap nicely with the newer gpus (including the 970) beating the top end GK110s, on average, in new games.
I get the economics of it all, but, because I do, it also make me extremely averse to any "ecosystem" lockdown (whether NV or AMD), since the motivation to accelerate the shortening of the gpu performance expiration cycle (through software based performance management, rather than hardware improvements) would be greater than ever. In fact, any company would be silly not to leverage this influence and market power (that comes with a proprietary ecosystem) , if it wants to fulfill its fiduciary responsibility to its stakeholders, in the order of their respective importance... Lol

On topic: AMD cards have definitely fared better than NV, and driver support for single cards is just as good. NV owners have had to perpetually upgrade since the first Kepler to keep performance at par, given all things being equal. And, CFX/sli both seem to have issuess, so no real advantage there for NV. However, I have not had much experience with CFX personally.
If AMD continues this long game with GCN, it will attract more costumers from NV overtime, as anyone who buys a hardware component by spending $300 + would want it to last longer rather than being compelled to upgrade because of lack of support... Lol
 
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9700/Pro, x1900/1950 series, 8800GT/GTX, GTX 460(maybe?), 7950/7970, 290/290x

x1900/50 and 8800 being the best of those.
 
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cytg111

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580(2010) hold me over until this 780(2013) which is still plenty fast, i may be peeking at whatevers next after 980 (2016? keeping a 3 year cadance)
(I have had ATI cards in the past as well, its not a 'thing').
 

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...NV owners have had to perpetually upgrade since the first Kepler to keep performance at par, given all things being equal...

By my calculations kepler owners have to replace their cards at a rate of one every 10 seconds to keep up with AMD.
 

Leyawiin

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Wow, I don't get your upgrade history

Not really upgrades - multiple PCs strewn around my house. I'm constantly working on a new build for something to do. Sometimes I just buy hardware to see how it does and then sell it when I'm bored (like the R9 290 from last Black Friday). Well, at least it keeps me out of the bars.

As far as the 8800 GTX goes, I think it deserves legendary status. The jump in performance from the 7900 series and X1950 series was astounding at the time. Plus, pretty much everyone I know was upgrading a GPU about every year and a half in the early to mid 2000s (as you said - performance from generation to generation was moving much more quickly back then). The first 2 1/2 years of the 8800 GTX were pretty good. The last year I was turning down quality settings quite a lot, but it still was OK. It was definitely a game changer in GPUs.
 
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I think when people look back to today's card in three years the obvious winner for best card will be the 390. The 8GB of RAM might be a dealbreaker at the end of the life of these consoles.
 

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My 7950 @ 1100/1500 is still very servicable today at 1080p. It can run many games at high, with a few at medium. I don't chase eye candy anymore, so who knows how long I can keep this 7950 going.
 

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Not really upgrades - multiple PCs strewn around my house. I'm constantly working on a new build for something to do. Sometimes I just buy hardware to see how it does and then sell it when I'm bored (like the R9 290 from last Black Friday). Well, at least it keeps me out of the bars.

Makes sense. Multiple PCs certainly gives you a lot of fun upgrades down the line as you can pass off the CPUs/GPUs from your primary to secondary to tertiary systems, etc. This justifies upgrades

As far as the 8800 GTX goes, I think it deserves legendary status.

As far as the performance leap from 7900GTX/X1950XTX, yes for sure it's justified but as far as longevity it was also considered to be one of the most legendary cards but I think I'd have to split 9700Pro/8800GTX as the best cards to come out from a performance jump point of view but longevity factor I'd give to 7970 over those ones.

We'll see what happens though as GPUs continue to increase in performance but with static PS4/XB1, games aren't getting as advanced as fast as I thought. At this pace the 980Ti might last a while but we'll see.

I think when people look back to today's card in three years the obvious winner for best card will be the 390. The 8GB of RAM might be a dealbreaker at the end of the life of these consoles.

The thing is it was possible to buy an after-market 290 for $200-250 well before 390 dropped. Even today it's not easy to find a 390 below $280. Think about all the gaming enjoyment someone already got out of a 290 for 1.5-2 years? I doubt the 390 will outlive 290/290X due to 8GB of VRAM. Also, I think comparing 390 to 970 makes the 390 look pretty bad since the 970 came out Sept 2014 and is very similar in performance but cost $330. Imagine if someone waited 1 full year thinking there would be something much better than an after-market 290/290X/970 as of October 2014? Well that never happened in 2015.
 
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