Which ide hard drive for video????

[Muadib]

I got the camcorder, & just got studio dv, but now I need a new hard drive. I would like to go ide if possible, due to the cost factor, but am I dreaming?

 

[Jimbo]

75GXP from IBM.
Does a great job with video without the SCSI price.
In all fairness, these days just about any quality 7200 RPM HDD will do you right.
http://www.storage.ibm.com/hardsoft/diskdrdl/prod/ds75gxp40gv.htm

This one is just my fav.

Jimbo

 

[Muadib]

Thanks for the reply Jimbo. Why do you give the edge to the ibm? Anand
likes the Maxtor new 7200 drives, but I think that was just for general pc use. BTW, what size drive would I need to edit about an hour of tape? I know there's a formula somewhere, more than likely it's in Studio DV box, but I haven't opened it yet....

 

[konichiwa]

You might want to try Raid0, lots of video editors use that. I've never used it myself but the speed increases on video editing and other implementations such as that are supposed to be beneficial and noticable.

 

[Noriaki]

2 x IBM 75GXP in RAID0 on a Promise FastTrack100.

Since you are doing video editing that's a lot of work with single large files so you won't have too much seeking (Raid0 does not speed up seeking) so you can get full benefit from the nearly doubled transfer rate of an already damn powerful drive. For DV Editing this setup should take a 10k RPM SCSI drive to school.

Or if you don't want the extra price that is a damn fast drive on it's own to.

As jimbo said, any decent 7200rpm drive is fairly good, but the 75GXP is the best.

Re-Check the high-end buyers guide for July. Anand favours the Maxtor for the value systems because it's a fair bit cheaper, IBM hard drives aren't cheap, but the 75GXP is presently the fastest IDE HDD on the market.

From the high-end gaming system:

Hard drive ? IBM Deskstar 75GXP 45GB - $275
Once again, the fastest drive on the market gets the nod, plain and simple. With Ultra ATA/100 support, it'll go along quite nicely with the i815E's ICH2.


From the high-end professional 3D and SOHO systems:

Hard drive ? 2 x IBM Deskstar 75 GXP 15GB - $130 x 2
The fastest IDE drives on the market are all members of the IBM 75GXP family, so the decision was relatively easy. It doesn't hurt that they're one of the few that support Ultra ATA/100 either. We'll need two of these drives in order to reap the speed benefits of RAID striping.

 

[Mday]

you want speed. so go with the fastest drive out. if you have more money, go SCSI. if you have more, but not that much more, go RAID 0. If you really have money, go SCSI RAID.

 

[Auric]

Back in the old days (before my time) they used to disable error checking on drives and sell them as specialized (higher priced) video drives. Nowadays, drives are so fast you can use just about any of 'em. I like the GXP's. I have not done any tape to HD type editing but I do tinker with movies and I don't expect you need anything more than a good IDE. Worst case is you have to buy another one and a RAID card as suggested. But start small is my advice. If you really really have money forget that SCSI RAID junk and go solid state baby.

 

[Jimbo]

If you want about an hour of tape editing space you should think BIG.
Will it be compressed? If not then I think (subject to correction by people that really know) I THINK I remember hearing it was about 16-20Gig per/hour. This was about a year or two ago and I don?t remember what the variables were either.
Also, if you are thinking of going RAID 0 then the Maxtors have problems with that. That I know from personal experience. They will work, but performance is a little worse than just one disc (using Win2000 software RAID 0), so not really much point in doing that.
Virtually all of your considerations will be determined by your budget. If you want as cheap as possible then get one BIG drive. If you got some more money then RAID 0 is pretty neat. If you want to devote a couple of grand to the project, then SCSI is still King.
?Start Small? is good advice. I say get one BIG drive (45Gig or so) and see how that works.

 

[halcyononandonandon]

Ive been doing some dv editing for about a year now. best bet is just have 2 disks one for sys files and another for your dv work ( you could of course have 3 and run the 2 together in raid 0.) Any modern disk will do the job my video disk is an IBM 25gb 5400 rpm drive. If you bump up your ram to 256 you wont regret it.
Have Fun

 

[MWink]

I have had the best luck with my Maxtor DM+40 30GB. I can record at 640X480@30FPS uncompressed without dropping any frames. Thats 18MB per second. It blows away every other drive I have ever used including an IBM 22GXP.

 

[dszd0g]

Yeah, if only it wasn't around $150,000 for 4GB of solid state drives. If it was 1% of that price I might seriously consider it.

 

[Mem]

Muadib,read Anandtechs review of (IBM 75 GXP Hard Drive)
at homepage it does very well even beats Maxtor on quite a few benchmarks so don`t believe it when people say Maxtor blows even IBM away.

 

[quadcells]

I do video edit with DV500, I use the Promise FastTrack ATA/100 with two IBM "75" 30.7 gig 7200rpm HD, Works great. Never a droped frame.
quadcells

 

[Crypticburn]

Dual 30gig IBM 75GXPs and FsatTrack 100 will definately fit your situation, I think the 30's are the best bang for the buck right now, and 60gigs for storage of captures can fill up fast... but you can upgrade later if neccissary, I've read that RAID 0 w/ ata100 can supposedly sustain higher transfer rates than UW2 SCSI, although I would go SCSI or SCSI RAID if money wasnt an issue... go with the IBMs and the FastTrack, you wont complain

 

[random]

doesn't necessarily have to say RAID0 on it. Some just say that they are a disk array card. That should work too. Just make sure you get dma/66 and not dma/33

 

[random]

doesn't necessarily have to say RAID0 on it. Some just say that they are a disk array card. That should work too. Just make sure you get dma/66 and not dma/33

 

[sov05]

The review only used 1 size of the IBM 75 GXP.

Or any other capacities slower or faster?

 

[sov05]

The review only used 1 size of the IBM 75 GXP.

Or any other capacities slower or faster?

 

[dmcgoy]

anand JUST reviewed hard drives...and the crown goes to the ibm 75gxp!!!

 

[MaJik]

Ive heard so much about the IBM 75 GXP on these forums last few days.
I know what im getting next time i buy a HD...

 

[rnmcd]

halcyononandonandon- how did you configure your hard drives and the other IDE devices on your PC?

I am in the process of building my first PC (which I will use for some digital video editing). I have 2 hard drives (7200rpm) and a CD-RW that can be DMA enabled (Plextor 8x4x32x).

I have been receiving various opinions on the Primary/Secondary IDE Master/Slave relationship.

Can you tell me what has worked for you?

Also, which capture card and software are you using?

Thanks,rnmcd

 

[Muadib]

Thanks to all!! You've convinced me, raid 0 is the way to go. Now all
I need is the cash. Thanks again.