Which is best memory brand?

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I know about the crucial sale that they are having on their memory and was going to get a stick of 256MB PC133 cas2 that they had. But, this weekend I was cruising along on pricewatch and found some micron memory with the same specs for cheaper. I always thought micron was one of the best. What is everyone else's opinion? I'm not planning on overclocking now, but later on I will.
 

rickn

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Your gonna get about 500 different answers

I use Mosel Vitelic, works great.
 

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Lifer
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So really there isn't much difference as long as it is name brand? I think I do remember reading somewhere about crucial being owned and operated by micron now that I mention it. So micron 256mb pc133 cas2 for under 90 bucks is a good deal?
 

jeffrey

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256mb pc133 cas2 for $90 is a good deal, but if you need to overclock higher than 140's at cas2 kingmax pc150 or Tonicom PC166 might get you higher and are around $90 too. you can't beat the compatability of crucial though. works in just about anything.
 

Quaggoth

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Don't think it's memory, but I can't get my Corsair 256/133/C2 to run any higher than 133. Not even 134.
 

DDad

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You'll see Micron chips on other PCB- that accounts for the lower price. I've had fair luck with it, but prefer to buy it from Crucial
 

Muerto

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I've got Micron in my machine right now and it works fine. What ever memory you buy just make sure that it is a brand name and not generic.
 

ruckb

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HI,

there are several things you have to reconsider when asking about a good brand for memory.

The first thing is the SPD programming. If this is done wrong, then your system can have a lot of problems with the automatic DRAM timing settings. I have read several tests of main memory, that showed, that a lot of SPD EEPROMS are programmed wrong.
But this one should be the easy task.

The next thing ist the layout of the PCB. Here can be made a lot of mistakes too. Especially, as for SDR and DDR there is no official spec that it defining the DIMM timings exactly. For this kind of memory only the device timings are exactly specified.
In addition to this, the PCB should be designed to fit the devices used on it.


And the last (and for me the most important thing) are the used devices. Here you have several different things, that work togheter.
If you have an older device (like the older 64Mbit generation) you can get a lot of different technologies inside the chips. For the first generations of a memory chip, the die size is quite large (because of the older technologie), and the design might still have one or the other bug. With improvement of technologie the die size will be smaller, the chip will be faster and maybe the bugs fixed ;-)
But on the market you will find always DIMM of the same size, but with different technologies. And it is not really fair to compare different devices.
e. g. if you have two 128MB DIMMs, where one is based on 16 x 64Mb (double sided) and the other on 8 x 128Mb (single sided) devices the double sided will be better for overclocking if they are built with the same technologie. The 64M die will be smaller, and will have more margins for OC. But if the 64Mb device is older technologie, it is maybe much slower then the 128Mb ....



Because of this reasons, it is quite hard to define the best brand. Every brand will have some week designs in its programm.
Therefore I like to have a DIMM, where the manufacterer give the information about the design of the devices, and is having a detailed datasheet to the DIMM. Because this is the most important information that you need to define wheter this is a "good" or a "bad" DIMM. If you have no information on the devices used on a DIMM don't buy it, as it can use different devices, where one DIMM will work fine, but the other will always make problems.

Therefore I would vote for any DIMM, that is made completly by a DRAM maufacterer like Micron or Infineon. As they know if a device has any problems, and can support this by a good PCB layout.


bye

ruckb
 

glenn1

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Crucial, Mosel, Mushkin, Kingmax, anything with the Infineon -HY 7.5ns chips on the cpu... it's all good
 

ruckb

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Hi KingOfComputer,

I don't think that I have said anything different, I just gave an example how a 128MB DIMM can be built.

If you want to give an exact definition you have to consider, that you can use x4 devices to built up a DIMM with 16 64Mb devices that is single sided (even if it has devices on both sides) or a DIMM with 4 256Mb devices that are x16 organized.
Your two lines are a little bit less to describe a 128MB DIMM, so I'm not sure what you want to say with your comment.

regards

ruckb
 

Kingofcomputer

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I want to point out regular 64Mbit and 128Mbit chip is 16x8 and 32x8.
128MB DIMM is made up of 16 16x8 chips or 8 32x8 chips.

you just said 16x64 and 8x128, I afraid others will get confused.
 

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<< Crucial is the only manufacturer who labels their module as CL2. >>



In addition, so does Corsair. However the Corsair PC150 uses Micron 7E chips.
 
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