which is the worse label (if it were true), the U.S. as an oil warmonger, or France as appeasers and tools of Saddam?

glenn1

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You've heard the accusations made on both sides... the U.S. is a warmongering, imperialistic hyperpower only interested in Iraq's oil. And France is a schemeing weasel country full of cheese-eating surrender monkeys cowering in fear and looking to appease Saddam. Which accusation would upset you more to be applied to you?
 

xBopx

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France is in it for the oil too. Heck, everyone is in it for the oil. Everyone. Of course oil isn't the only reason, but its a major reason - for everyone. That being said, since everyones in it for the oil we may as well not appease a brutal dictator.
 

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Iraq doesn't have very much oil compared to most mideast nations. It was for that very reason Iraq tried to invade kuwait. If we want more oil we should invade canada. They have way more oil and they would be much easier to take over.
 

Zenmervolt

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Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
i think this thread is most upsetting.
Yes. How dare the U.S. want to defend its own interests as all other countries are doing right now. How dare we act like everyone else!

ZV
 

rchiu

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
i think this thread is most upsetting.
Yes. How dare the U.S. want to defend its own interests as all other countries are doing right now. How dare we act like everyone else!

ZV

When France defend its own interests, no body dies, when American defends its interest, thousands will die. That's the difference.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: rchiu
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
i think this thread is most upsetting.
Yes. How dare the U.S. want to defend its own interests as all other countries are doing right now. How dare we act like everyone else!

ZV

When France defend its own interests, no body dies, when American defends its interest, thousands will die. That's the difference.

By keeping Saddam in power, you have just guaranteed the death of many people in Iraq. Saddam has, by some estimates, already killed more than million of his own people.
 

Spoooon

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I don't really care what the US's ulterior motives are, I think the side effects of a new regime in Iraq will be positive over all. Yes, it's unfortunate that there will be a war and many will die, but the average Iraqi citizen will no longer be under Saddam's bootheel.
 

SherEPunjab

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: SherEPunjab
i think this thread is most upsetting.
Yes. How dare the U.S. want to defend its own interests as all other countries are doing right now. How dare we act like everyone else!

ZV

This [my comment] has nothing to do with the war in iraq. I just think this thread is another lame analogy thread or 'what if' thread.

 

glenn1

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When France defend its own interests, no body dies, when American defends its interest, thousands will die. That's the difference.

Unlike the other France that sank the Rainbow Warrior about 15 years ago, or the other France of 2003 who is busy shooting up people in the Ivory Coast.
 

Eli

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Right now, France has the worse label.

In the future, the US will have the worst.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: glenn1
When France defend its own interests, no body dies, when American defends its interest, thousands will die. That's the difference.

Unlike the other France that sank the Rainbow Warrior about 15 years ago, or the other France of 2003 who is busy shooting up people in the Ivory Coast.

Did they get UN approval?

Are they acting unilateraly?
 

Skyclad1uhm1

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Both are in it for the oil, and both have supplied Saddam with weapons. Chirac, Bush and Saddam are just an anal threesome.
 
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