brycejones
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Wow!!!! Ruskie mind control in just the swing/rust belt states. Doesn't appear to have worked in tried and true blue states.
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Wow!!!! Ruskie mind control in just the swing/rust belt states. Doesn't appear to have worked in tried and true blue states.
Here's the problem: even if you assume that Russia did try to influence previous elections (hard evidence, please, or drop it), it wasn't hacking major US political parties and strategically releasing info. And you don't have to compromise voting machines and ballot counters to change the income. Were there people who changed their minds based on the leaked data, especially when its significance was sometimes distorted by WikiLeaks and Russia-backed news outlets? Most likely yes. The core information is accurate as far as we know, but that doesn't give Russia a free pass.
There are a few reasons to care. First, of course, is that Russia was conspicuously interfering with the democratic process. This is never tolerable, and must be punished. The other: if we don't care, that's encouraging Russia. The report has determined that Russia considers its pro-Trump hacking campaign a success, and will likely use what it learned to skew both future American elections and those elsewhere in the world. Do you really want to reinforce that determination by pretending that the hacks didn't matter?
I think many people think the Russians did hack and try to influence the election, I don't buy that the hacking had an impact as big as the Democrat sheep feel it was.People don't care about truth. They believe what they want to believe.
Democrat sheep believe Russians are hacking.
Republican sheep believe the Russians are not hacking.
What a world.
It doesn't really matter anyway. What we see and know is far from reality.I think many people think the Russians did hack and try to influence the election, I don't buy that the hacking had an impact as big as the Democrat sheep feel it was.
I think many people think the Russians did hack and try to influence the election, I don't buy that the hacking had an impact as big as the Democrat sheep feel it was.
Please. Release of both the DNC & Podesta hacks hugely altered the course of public discussion & therefore the election. If the stuff hadn't been released we'd have been talking about something, anything else.
Is that too easy, or what?
Right, how many Americans are political junkies that frequent places like this forum? How many watch the news vs reality TV shows?Please. Release of both the DNC & Podesta hacks hugely altered the course of public discussion & therefore the election. If the stuff hadn't been released we'd have been talking about something, anything else.
Is that too easy, or what?
Ahhhh poor butthurt angry petulant child has nothing to offerPlease don't feed to troll.
Right, how many Americans are political junkies that frequent places like this forum? How many watch the news vs reality TV shows?
No idea, I Got Brain Tumors. No idea.How come hillary and the DNC aren't thanking the hackers for getting her the popular vote??
Just face it Clinton failed to reach out to voters in the states that mattered whereas Trump did. Clinton ignored some of them.
Just face it. Russian psy-ops twiddled with America's minds & therefore our election. They changed the conversation. Russian propagandists knew they could depend on Repubs to make a slime fest of the purloined information, & they did.
It's just the truth. The real questions are why did they do it & why we're so vulnerable to it.
If anybody did anything the internal leak exposed the depth clinton / Debbi Wassermann Schultz / DNC went to screw Bernie Sanders. That's the truth that was never supposed to see the light of day and had clinton won.. the Russian BS story would be dead. The DNC didn't even follow their own procedures for cyber security...they did the same thing clinton did with the illegal servers.
What internal leak? There is no evidence that any such thing occurred. There is ample evidence that the russians hacked the DNC & released the info, thus altering our whole national conversation about the election.
Bernie? He wasn't the nominee because 3M more Dems voted for Clinton in the primaries.
It's just concern trolling coming from you, anyway.
If anybody did anything the internal leak exposed the depth clinton / Debbi Wassermann Schultz / DNC went to screw Bernie Sanders. That's the truth that was never supposed to see the light of day and had clinton won.. the Russian BS story would be dead. The DNC didn't even follow their own procedures for cyber security...they did the same thing clinton did with the illegal servers.
Yet no one can say if these psy-ops changed a single voter's mind. This is just another lame excuse instead of accepting the fact that the left dismissed any poll showing Trump was gaining ground or leading and changing their ground game in the areas. Or all the smug Dems claiming that Trump didn't have a snow ball's chance in hell of winning. How many Dem voters stayed home because of the inaccurate polling thinking their vote wasn't needed?Just face it. Russian psy-ops twiddled with America's minds & therefore our election. They changed the conversation. Russian propagandists knew they could depend on Repubs to make a slime fest of the purloined information, & they did.
It's just the truth. The real questions are why did they do it & why we're so vulnerable to it.
It wasn't that long ago the liberals were gloating over their "impenetrable blue electoral wall" and it's highly possible the hackers who ever they may be are responsible for hillary's popular vote count as well as the "leaked" emails that resulted in Debbie Wassermann Schultz resignation due to her collusion with hillary and the DNC to screw Bernie Sanders.."leaked embarrassing emails that were released at the start of the party's convention, revealing that the party had conspired against Bernie Sanders and leading to the resignation of Democratic party chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz on July 24."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/u...serman-schultz-dnc-wikileaks-emails.html?_r=0
Yeah, they use 2yr old utilities commonly found on the deep Web and leave traces of themselves everywhere.
Yet no one can say if these psy-ops changed a single voter's mind. This is just another lame excuse instead of accepting the fact that the left dismissed any poll showing Trump was gaining ground or leading and changing their ground game in the areas. Or all the smug Dems claiming that Trump didn't have a snow ball's chance in hell of winning. How many Dem voters stayed home because of the inaccurate polling thinking their vote wasn't needed?
Yet no one can say if these psy-ops changed a single voter's mind. This is just another lame excuse instead of accepting the fact that the left dismissed any poll showing Trump was gaining ground or leading and changing their ground game in the areas. Or all the smug Dems claiming that Trump didn't have a snow ball's chance in hell of winning. How many Dem voters stayed home because of the inaccurate polling thinking their vote wasn't needed?
Please. Release of both the DNC & Podesta hacks hugely altered the course of public discussion & therefore the election. If the stuff hadn't been released we'd have been talking about something, anything else.
Is that too easy, or what?