which of the intels?

Comdrpopnfresh

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which is a good fast, power preserving 120gb on hm55? any, besides ocz, which can also run on ich10/r at 180 on sata-2 3gb/s on the 4gb ddr3 1066 and the "superturbo mode" in bios where i5 450m turbo goes to dual hyper-threaded at ~3.3GHz. ssd gotta hold up. intel? w/ i snt ocz. deal w/ a rma sep.
can they be picked up local?
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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so which is better suited to my need- the 510/520 or the 320 intel series: in 120gb size.

all my preivous ssd installs had very climactic periods of long wait, then a flahs and zip of install line. quick, but th einstall form xp on cd to win7 after vista on dvd shaved more off. i never thought i got mor eon read, write, or w/ anywhere close to saturating the 3gb/s. 191mbps doesn't round up tot hat, does it?
 

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The new Intel® SSD 520's are the fastest of our consumer SSDs but they are SATA III so if your board does support SATA III going that path couldn't hurt. On the other hand the Intel SSD 320s are reasonable performing and have a good price point. Both the 320s and the 520s have a 5 year warranty with them so you can't go bad with them on reliability.
 
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I would go with the 320 series. Cheaper, but just about as good as the 520 series.
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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pulling trigger on it. someone have the installer2usb thing with the eio remover? My ultimate edition only does x32 or x64, and always ultimate.

true the 120gb is fully aes encrypted?
were my ocz product not?

p.s. good thing i scraped the shiny asus metal off of my lovely bamboo. it was slicing fingers
 
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Coup27

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The new Intel® SSD 520's are the fastest of our consumer SSDs but they are SATA III so if your board does support SATA III going that path couldn't hurt. On the other hand the Intel SSD 320s are reasonable performing and have a good price point. Both the 320s and the 520s have a 5 year warranty with them so you can't go bad with them on reliability.
Speaking of reliability, I like Intel drives as much as the next person and have purchased 4 for various reasons. There is however multiple reports of the 8MB bug continuing in the wild and there has been a thread going for some time on Intels on community support forum which has oddly been ignored by Intels on forum reps and also a user on this forum on page 1 who had the issue.

Are you able to find out what the current situation is? There are clearly too many users still with this issue for it to be considered completely fixed.
 

Coup27

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The 320 series suffered a show stopping firmware bug which resulted in the drive being displayed in BIOS as 8MB and obviously not bootable.

Intel released a fix a few months ago, firmware version 0362. Despite this there has been continuing reports of users experiencing this bug after applying the firmware fix, both on this forum and on Intels.

No official acknowledgement from Intel, tech websites or anybody has ever been made for the continuing reports.
 

kbp

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The 320 series suffered a show stopping firmware bug which resulted in the drive being displayed in BIOS as 8MB and obviously not bootable.

Intel released a fix a few months ago, firmware version 0362. Despite this there has been continuing reports of users experiencing this bug after applying the firmware fix, both on this forum and on Intels.

No official acknowledgement from Intel, tech websites or anybody has ever been made for the continuing reports.

News to me. Any supporting links??? I would like to read!
 

Anonemous

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I got hit with the 8MB bug on an Intel 320 SSD drive with the latest firmware. Had to secure erase it and it was fine. Too bad I lost some data in the process.
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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I don't think i am going to upgrate firmware. fast enough. I'll register my new intel 320 series 120gb drive on their website, and if it needs it, they can contact me.
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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love having my smooth bamboo finish back instead of that icky plastic with a weird layout- and the monitor is called a screen aptly- it looks like a net. Love my computer glad to have it back, and with auto 128-bit aes! I decided to go win ult 7 to bitlocker my portables.the retail package is worth the price- the have a sleeve, and throw in a screwdriver as well as a usb 3+2 2 sata wire to connect to loose drive win7 scoring coming in bit.
 

Comdrpopnfresh

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this drive is awesome. it came with wire, but i ave a usb3.0 flash drive, 32gb, and now need a hub...
 

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The 320 series suffered a show stopping firmware bug which resulted in the drive being displayed in BIOS as 8MB and obviously not bootable.

Intel released a fix a few months ago, firmware version 0362. Despite this there has been continuing reports of users experiencing this bug after applying the firmware fix, both on this forum and on Intels.

I suspect that there is a whole class of issues that can cause the Intel 320 firmware (even 0362) to revert to 8MB. I think it is the equivalent of a Windows BSOD when the Intel 320 has been confused sufficiently that it can no longer operate (probably because the LBA to flash page mapping table has been damaged).

If I am right about that, then I guess that firmware 0362 fixed one bug from that class related to power-cycling the SSD. But there are apparently still other bugs that can cause the 320 to revert to 8MB.

It is disturbing that Intel seems to largely ignore those issues on their forums. I hope that it is because they have a policy not to discuss the issues on the forums, and not because they are not actually putting priority on fixing them. But even if that is the case, it is disconcerting that Intel has not been able to fix the bugs now that we are about 10 months since the release of the 320. It almost seems like their SSD group is resource limited and they have been putting all of their effort into fixing bugs on the 520, leaving little or no resources for the 320.
 
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Coup27

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News to me. Any supporting links??? I would like to read!
Here's one, but google "Intel 320 8MB Bug" and there's plenty.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4625/intel-testing-firmware-fix-for-ssd-320-8mb-power-bug


It is disturbing that Intel seems to largely ignore those issues on their forums. I hope that it is because they have a policy not to discuss the issues on the forums, and not because they are not actually putting priority on fixing them. But even if that is the case, it is disconcerting that Intel has not been able to fix the bugs now that we are about 10 months since the release of the 320. It almost seems like their SSD group is resource limited and they have been putting all of their effort into fixing bugs on the 520, leaving little or no resources for the 320.
Intels SSD forum is a joke. One area where OCZ has Intels pants down is its support forum. Intel call it a "community" support forum which is their way of selecting which threads to reply in and which to not. I remember when I got my G2 and 02HA botched the drives and everyone was waiting on an announcement. People were screaming on that forum and Intel ignored everybody until they had finalised 02HD and then said "We've found the problem and here is the fix", which is great then, but in the middle you get no support.
 

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Intels SSD forum is a joke.

Heh, OCZ's forum is just as funny as Intel's forum. They are both awful, just in different ways. OCZ's support people are condescending and spend most of their time blaming the users and telling them all sorts of ridiculous things to do to their system because they don't know how to fix the problems with their SSDs.
 

Coup27

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Well there is that I suppose. I occasionally read the OCZ support forum and have the same opinion as you.

I think Samsung are quite clever. Granted their drives don't go wrong often but by not having a forum there is no central place to gather users who do have issues, thus no negative spot for publicity.

Users who do have issues spread their posts out across the web or contact Samsung direct which then it is all private.
 

groberts101

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Heh, OCZ's forum is just as funny as Intel's forum. They are both awful, just in different ways. OCZ's support people are condescending and spend most of their time blaming the users and telling them all sorts of ridiculous things to do to their system because they don't know how to fix the problems with their SSDs.

wanna bet?

go get yourself a SF-2281 based SSD with older firmware and use older outdated drivers in combination with an older outdated bios and come over there for help.

then go to Intels forums and ask for help(with oh.. I don't know.. maybe the 8mb bug?) and see how long it takes you to sort it out.

I'll take 5 condescending staff/forum members fumbling their way through trying to help me in the very first day.. over 1 staff and 1 forum member handing me half that amount of the same cookie cutter responses typically shoveled out in one weeks time over there.

To go even further here.. I would bet you large cash that OCZ's forums help more people work through issues that eventually turn out to have absolutely nothing to do with the SSD itself in one weeks time than Intels does in nearly a months time.


Now of course you could argue that OCZ has to sleep in the bed that they made for themselves(and I may not even totally disagree with that) and has to offer greater numbers of responses in comparison to Intels simply because of greater numbers of issues.

BUT that doesn't take away from the sheer volume of help available on a daily basis over there compared to Intels forum. Remedies/resources available at OCZ are night and day compared to many other forums. In fact.. much of what you see on other forums is EXACTLY mirrored to reflect the same methods at times. And since many of those same methods usually start out over at the OCZ forums first?.. we know who's watchin' who. Personally speaking, I could care less who started what workaround so long as they have it made available in the knowledge base to help others who have similar issues. Researching and parroting what has worked for others is what a good forum is all about.

And that would be regardless of the attitude that may occasionally come along with it. Sometimes it's tough not to be a dick to another dick that comes along and blames everyone but himself for not having a clue about building a custom PC. Most support forums aren't k-mart you know.. and the customer is not always right. It's especially satisfying when a customer comes in saying how advanced their knowledge base is("I'm in IT for 20 years!.. and I've seen/done it all") and lays 100% of the blame on the SSD.. only to finally end up thanking all involved for helping to clear issues while graciously eating crow as they finally discover the issue had absolutely nothing at all to do with the SSD. Petty satisfaction?.. sure. But still satisfaction nonetheless.

And I've spent more than my fair share of time trying to help out over there myself.. so I have a bigger clue about that forum and the guys involved there than most probably ever will. If you want to live on the cutting edge with this tech?.. you surely need a forum like that one to be able to do it.

And as far as criticizing a group of condescending individuals from another forum? Well?.. stones.. glass houses and all that as I've seen where some individuals around here come from and the groups that they hang out with. The word "hypocrite" seems to be a proper fitting shoe for any such individuals like that.
 
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jwilliams4200

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I'll take 5 condescending staff/forum members fumbling their way through trying to help me in the very first day.. over 1 staff and 1 forum member handing me half that amount of the same cookie cutter responses typically shoveled out in one weeks time over there.

I stopped reading the babble here. I'm not surprised you like "support" people to fawn over you, even if they do not provide useful information. But I remember how you behaved on xtremesystems.org before you got banned. You were just like the OCZ "support" people, spouting nonsense and incorrect statements, even to people who knew better and told you so.
 
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