Which P4c to buy?

[BoboTheAngry]

In the near future ill be buying an ASUS P4C800 Deluxe with 2x512 of Corsair PC3200. My question is which of the new P4s should I get to overclock? I've heard that the 2.6c can be massively overclocked, but Im worried about whether or not my ram would be able to keep up. So I'm either going to get the 2.6 or the 2.8. (Oh, and do you think that the Auto- overclock feature on the mobo could help me out much?)

 

[Corporate Thug]

i dont like the auto overclock feature much but thats just my personal opinion. keeping in mind that you can run pc3200 XMS @220 Mhz, i would get a 2.4C

 

[PClark99]

Go with the 2.4c.

 

[tallman45]

Go with the 2.4C and spend the money that you saved on the 2.6C on high quality memory. System performance is based on a lot more than cpu speed, the disk subsystem will be your weakest link.

 

[oldfart]

2.6C. 2.4C pushes FSB and mem a bit too hard.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: oldfart
2.6C. 2.4C pushes FSB and mem a bit too hard.

nah, XMS is meant to be pushed hard

 

[oldfart]

I actually have a 2.6C and XMS 3200C2. 2.6C is a better setup.

I run:
Abit IC7
2.6C
257 FSB
3.34 GHz
5:4 DDR412 2-2-2-5

Most P4Cs go to 3.3 - 3.4 range. Most mobos can go to ~ 275 FSB.

Here is the issue with a 2.4C. 12 x 275 = 3.3 GHz. Right on the edge. 12 x 275 5:4 ratio = DDR440. My XMS 3200C2 will not run DDR440 @ ANY cas setting. It does DDR412 at nice fast 2-2-2-5 timings. You would likely have to go to 3:2 ratio.

As I said. 2.4C pushes FSB and DDR speed too hard. 2.6C is a better overclock. FSB and DDR speed are much more reasonable.

 

[motojeff]

This memory oldfart?

http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097

 

[cr0chunter]

oldfart

in regards to your p4 2.6c recommendation

"I actually have a 2.6C and XMS 3200C2. 2.6C is a better setup....."

i am about to buy a 2.6c from newegg. if i am going to overclock in an antec sonata case, should i just buy the oem and get a good fan/heatsink? or would the stock fan with the retail box and heatsink be fine???

your comments appreciated.

cheers

 

[RandySavage]

listen to old fart... i have a 2.4c.. imo the fsb is pushed too far...

2.6 should do nicely.

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: motojeff
This memory oldfart?

http://www.googlegear.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80097[/q
My 3200C2 r1.1 has Samusung chips. The new 3200C2 r2.2 has Winbond chips. It is totally differennt memory and I dont know how it is. It may well be better than what I have.

 

[mngisdood]

The 2.6 and your Corsair would make a real sweet combo, and you should (imho) get around a 600 to 700mhz overclock without a whole lotta effort.

 

[RaymondY]

I would buy the retail P4C because of the warranty. If u buy the OEM, u only have a 15 or 30 day warranty from where you purchased the processer.

I'm planning on purchasing either the P4 2.4c or 2.6c. But will only buy retail processers.

 

[Toymaker]

Originally posted by: oldfart
I actually have a 2.6C and XMS 3200C2. 2.6C is a better setup.

I run:
Abit IC7
2.6C
257 FSB
3.34 GHz
5:4 DDR412 2-2-2-5

Most P4Cs go to 3.3 - 3.4 range. Most mobos can go to ~ 275 FSB.

Here is the issue with a 2.4C. 12 x 275 = 3.3 GHz. Right on the edge. 12 x 275 5:4 ratio = DDR440. My XMS 3200C2 will not run DDR440 @ ANY cas setting. It does DDR412 at nice fast 2-2-2-5 timings. You would likely have to go to 3:2 ratio.

As I said. 2.4C pushes FSB and DDR speed too hard. 2.6C is a better overclock. FSB and DDR speed are much more reasonable.

Oldfart! Congrats, man! I see you finally found something worth putting your hard earned money into.

 

[Toymaker]

And, by the way....nice system.

 

[stardust]

Originally posted by: oldfart
I actually have a 2.6C and XMS 3200C2. 2.6C is a better setup.

I run:
Abit IC7
2.6C
257 FSB
3.34 GHz
5:4 DDR412 2-2-2-5

Most P4Cs go to 3.3 - 3.4 range. Most mobos can go to ~ 275 FSB.

Here is the issue with a 2.4C. 12 x 275 = 3.3 GHz. Right on the edge. 12 x 275 5:4 ratio = DDR440. My XMS 3200C2 will not run DDR440 @ ANY cas setting. It does DDR412 at nice fast 2-2-2-5 timings. You would likely have to go to 3:2 ratio.

As I said. 2.4C pushes FSB and DDR speed too hard. 2.6C is a better overclock. FSB and DDR speed are much more reasonable.

did u try to max out ur IC7?? im still blurry between the P4P800 vs IC7 threads...
wuts so special about the IC7? it seemed to be backed by lots of loyal users

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: PClark99
Go with the 2.4c.

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: Toymaker
And, by the way....nice system.

Thanks. It is working out well. Looks like you have a pretty nice one going as well.

 

[mngisdood]

Here is my little chart/rant which my help (and I think oldfart my even agree)

I'd go with the 2.6c as it puts less of a strain on your memory/fsb to reach the higher overclocks.

Example:

To get to 3.2ghz:

2.4c needs a 266fsb
2.6c needs a 246fsb
2.8c needs a 228fsb
3.0c needs a 213fsb

The sweetspot in terms of value and overclockability is the 2.6. With decent ram @ 5:4, achieving that o/c with the 2.6 is much easier as again, there is less need for a higher fsb to reach the higher overclocks, versus the 2.4c.

 

[cr0chunter]

would kingston hyperx pc3500 ddr ram do the trick?