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Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.
That isn't a fact. I can prove that there is no largest prime number, for example.

 

YoshiSato

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religion is only good for 2 things
      1. Controling the masses
        Starting wars

If you think otherwise read the old testament,
The promise land was founded on genocide and bloodshead.

So much for all loving god.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.
That isn't a fact. I can prove that there is no largest prime number, for example.

Is that proving the non-existance of something, or proving the existance of a limit? That's different from disproving the existance of a God, for which there is no evidence or proof of in the first place.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist
Agnosticism is not mutually exclusive with atheism. Gnosticism/Agnosticism and Theism/Atheism are orthogonal dichotomies. Agnostics that do not hold a belief in a god are also atheists, therefore, despite that they may not identify themselves as such.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.
That isn't a fact. I can prove that there is no largest prime number, for example.

Is that proving the non-existance of something, or proving the existance of a limit?
Actually, it proves the non-existence of a limit to the size of prime numbers.


That's different from disproving the existance of a God, for which there is no evidence or proof of in the first place.
I didn't say anything about that. I just pointed out that what you called a "fact" was indeed not so.

 

MiniDoom

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I?m more spiritual than religious, but Judaism. I respect a lot of Hindu and Rastafarian beliefs also.

Okay, so you're an AI Jew. I see why you support Israel so vigorously now.

And an American indian so I think I can understand the Palestinian view as well.:roll:
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
I?m more spiritual than religious, but Judaism. I respect a lot of Hindu and Rastafarian beliefs also.

Okay, so you're an AI Jew. I see why you support Israel so vigorously now.

And an American indian so I think I can understand the Palestinian view as well.:roll:

You just don't give a damn, that's cool. Actually, it isn't, but after some more thought on my own part I now support Israel as well.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Garth
Actually, it proves the non-existence of a limit to the size of prime numbers.

I don't really follow you, I'm not much of a math expert. To debate you on this I'd need to read more about prime numbers.
 

narzy

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I follow the live a good life, don't bother people with mundane crap, be honest, work hard, accept ALL people and hope that whatever god I was suppose to be worshiping sees that as good enough. If not I guess I'll just party with the rest of the folks like me in whatever place I go to for not appeasing the gods.

At the end of the day, my plan is to repent to as many as I can with my dieing breath in hopes that asking for their acceptance will be enough.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.

I don't believe the faithful profess to know everything. That's what faith is all about.

Are ya fer'm, or again'm?



 

RCN

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Originally posted by: Garth
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.
That isn't a fact. I can prove that there is no largest prime number, for example.

so I'm assuming you can also prove that infinity exist.............. if so how big is it
 

Babbles

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Garth
Actually, it proves the non-existence of a limit to the size of prime numbers.

I don't really follow you, I'm not much of a math expert. To debate you on this I'd need to read more about prime numbers.

He's just trying to make some half-assed argument based on the fact that there is no limit to number - i.e. infinity - and as such there is no limit to prime numbers.

Basically it is irrelevant and he is trying to make an argument out of nothing; an attempt to sound "deep" I suppose.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Garth
Actually, it proves the non-existence of a limit to the size of prime numbers.

I don't really follow you, I'm not much of a math expert. To debate you on this I'd need to read more about prime numbers.
Not really. What you need to learn is a form of argumentation called reductio ad absurdum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.

I don't believe the faithful profess to know everything. That's what faith is all about.

Are ya fer'm or, again'm?

I think that they do. That's the state that the faithful are working towards: godliness.
 

Forsythe

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.

In theory, there's a chance that every air atom in a confined space (ie. a room or a box) will be in one half of the room, leaving no atoms in the other side of the room, since they move around at random, bouncing off walls and such. However you can tell that that thing is never going to happen, even if the chance is there.
That's the same reasoning i apply to the chances of there being a god.
 

Cerpin Taxt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Babbles
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Garth
Actually, it proves the non-existence of a limit to the size of prime numbers.

I don't really follow you, I'm not much of a math expert. To debate you on this I'd need to read more about prime numbers.

He's just trying to make some half-assed argument based on the fact that there is no limit to number - i.e. infinity - and as such there is no limit to prime numbers.

Basically it is irrelevant and he is trying to make an argument out of nothing; an attempt to sound "deep" I suppose.
No, not that either. I was simply using a common example of reductio put into practice to substantiate the fact that negative propositions can be logically proven. The example, FYI, was the proof of Euclid's 2nd Theorem.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EuclidsTheorems.html

 

Squisher

Lifer
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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
Agnostics, how does that fence feel stuck in the crack of your ass? Grow a pair.

<--atheist

I'm not sitting on any fence, I openly acknowledge and stand by the belief I have that not everything is knowable, and the fact that you can't prove a negative.

I don't believe the faithful profess to know everything. That's what faith is all about.

Are ya fer'm or, again'm?

I think that they do. That's the state that the faithful are working towards: godliness.
I don't believe that they think that acceptance into heaven requires perfection.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't believe that they think that acceptance into heaven requires perfection.

I think they believe perfection is what they'll achieve once they enter heaven.
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: Garth
No, not that either. I was simply using a common example of reductio put into practice to substantiate the fact that negative propositions can be logically proven. The example, FYI, was the proof of Euclid's 2nd Theorem.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EuclidsTheorems.html

I still don't quite follow you. I'm really too tired to read that now, but I'll retract my statement about "proving a negative" being impossible, if only for my lack of knowledge. Instead I'll simply say that I see no logical way to disprove the existance of a God when no scientific reason is given for the existance of a God in the first place.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't believe that they think that acceptance into heaven requires perfection.

I think they believe perfection is what they'll achieve once they enter heaven.

Well, we're here on Earth right now, so answer the question.
 

kogase

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Sep 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: Squisher
I don't believe that they think that acceptance into heaven requires perfection.

I think they believe perfection is what they'll achieve once they enter heaven.

Well, we're here on Earth right now, so answer the question.

Not sure what your point is. I mean, I have an idea of what you're trying to say but I think you're just being an ass.
 
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