Busa Turbo, otherwise people will know you're gay.
Sport bikes and other motorcycles in general don't have and don't need forced induction units (turbocharger, supercharger, NOS) because of the power to weight ratio being 100 times (don't quote me on this number) more efficient than sports cars with 4 wheels. Even with sports cars and super cars I would rather have a Naturally Aspirated power train with a steady flow of acceleration rather than a big boost from a turbocharger. It also saves on fuel consumption this way and makes the engine more reliable, last longer and gives you better control of your ride.
If you want your bike faster, just install after market performance mods for it and make sure you tune the braking and handling characteristics properly as well.
I decided on not purchasing and riding a bike anymore also because in the United States we have speed limits on the road.
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread! :thumbsup:
Turbos actually are used to make fast bikes even faster (Turbo Hayabusa for example). This is typically for drag racing or to increase the top speed as motorcycles are limited by aerodynamic drag more than anything else and they need a lot more power to get a small increase in top speed. A stock Hayabusa is limited to 186mph top speed but unrestricted they will do high 190s.
Sport bikes are pretty fast already though. Most modern literbikes can run the 1/4 mile in 10 seconds flat at around 150mph, do 0-60mph in under 3 seconds and reach 100mph in first gear.
That's the thing. I don't need a bike to go 186 MPH or even past 123 mph on the streets. I'm all for top end power, but most of the time I wouldn't even be on a race track and have no access to the high speed Autobahn.
I would rather have a < liter bike say a Honda CBR 600RR or Yamaha R6. It would be nice to have it tuned by a shop to decrease the top end power and instead give it a nice torque and mid range punch instead when I rev it up high. 600cc sport bikes also have smaller mass and are lighter so they're a bit easier to handle as well. I agree, sport bikes are plenty fast enough stock if anything.
Also, you mentioned 100 mph on 1st gear? Did I read that right? That's a tall gear ratio for just the 1st gear!
Like I mentioned I've never ridden a motor bike before. So I have no clue on how the riding experience would actually feel like. I still have some interest in riding, but like I mentioned a 49cc or 150cc scooter would be a better place to start...
Well, that's for a 1000cc sport bike. And yes, they will hit 100mph in 1st gear. This is due to the power and rev range those bikes will make, they deliver power in a very linear fashion all the way to redline which is almost 14,000rpms.
This guy isn't even on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsspWUWrRag
Watching the guy take off made me cringe. Its like it's his first time riding a motorcycle.
I know, he over revs it and slips the hell out of the clutch... total n00b and a perfect example of why people like that should not be riding bikes like that.
I think you guys are being a bit critical of his launch techniques. Ya, he used too much clutch but nothing in the video screamed OMG N00B! to me.
Perhaps you guys would like to upload videos of yourselves launching liter bikes so we can compare technique? =]
Well, first of all he wasn't "launching" it.
He was just starting out from a stop... and he hit 10k rpms before he even started letting the clutch out which is completely pointless. I don't think I need to get into the needless and prolonged slipping of the clutch.
Nothing about his video leads me to believe he has spent much time riding motorcycles
So someone starting from a dead stop, obviously trying to go fast isn't going to slip their clutch and rev their bikes? His skills aren't great at what he's trying to do but it's quite obvious what he is trying to do. I'm sure he is capable of accelerating from a stand still without hitting 10krpm and slipping the clutch for 5 seconds.
What exactly in a video like this will give clues as to how long someone has been riding. An individual takes off from a dead stop and revs their bike to red line in first gear then cuts the video. He could have 10 years of riding experience under his belt and not be good at fast starts from a dead stop. Or he could have only 2 months of riding experience.
OMG NOOB you over rev'd your bike and slipped your clutch too much N00B. That's pretty much what I hear from the comments. Which then my response is, I think you're being overly critical.
I think you guys are being a bit critical of his launch techniques. Ya, he used too much clutch but nothing in the video screamed OMG N00B! to me.
Perhaps you guys would like to upload videos of yourselves launching liter bikes so we can compare technique? =]
I'm sorry. Trying to go fast from a dead stop. Was that a bit more correct?
So someone starting from a dead stop, obviously trying to go fast isn't going to slip their clutch and rev their bikes? His skills aren't great at what he's trying to do but it's quite obvious what he is trying to do. I'm sure he is capable of accelerating from a stand still without hitting 10krpm and slipping the clutch for 5 seconds.
What exactly in a video like this will give clues as to how long someone has been riding. An individual takes off from a dead stop and revs their bike to red line in first gear then cuts the video. He could have 10 years of riding experience under his belt and not be good at fast starts from a dead stop. Or he could have only 2 months of riding experience.
OMG NOOB you over rev'd your bike and slipped your clutch too much N00B. That's pretty much what I hear from the comments. Which then my response is, I think you're being overly critical.
an experienced would be expected to know how to clutch/throttle with minimal slippage?
I would hope so. However, If I asked you to sit at a red light and rev your bike to 10krpm...would you have the experience to know how much clutch is needed for minimal slippage? Perhaps you would or perhaps you don't? I assume either way that you're a competent enough rider.
Maybe my statements above were unclear. I don't believe I said he was any good at what he tried to do. It's quite obvious he did multiple things wrong. What I do believe I implied was that just because someone tries to do something on a bike like that, doesn't mean they aren't an "experienced" all around rider.
Finally, to drive my point forward a bit with that thought process, I simply asked anyone critiquing him to post a video doing the same stupid thing he did. I want to see a video of you guys reving you're bikes to whatever rpm makes 80% of your max horsepower from a dead stop. I'm sure we'd all love to see you're clutch control in a situation like this.
I would hope so. However, If I asked you to sit at a red light and rev your bike to 10krpm...would you have the experience to know how much clutch is needed for minimal slippage? Perhaps you would or perhaps you don't? I assume either way that you're a competent enough rider.
Maybe my statements above were unclear. I don't believe I said he was any good at what he tried to do. It's quite obvious he did multiple things wrong. What I do believe I implied was that just because someone tries to do something on a bike like that, doesn't mean they aren't an "experienced" all around rider.
Finally, to drive my point forward a bit with that thought process, I simply asked anyone critiquing him to post a video doing the same stupid thing he did. I want to see a video of you guys reving you're bikes to whatever rpm makes 80% of your max horsepower from a dead stop. I'm sure we'd all love to see you're clutch control in a situation like this.
I would hope so. However, If I asked you to sit at a red light and rev your bike to 10krpm...would you have the experience to know how much clutch is needed for minimal slippage? Perhaps you would or perhaps you don't? I assume either way that you're a competent enough rider.
Maybe my statements above were unclear. I don't believe I said he was any good at what he tried to do. It's quite obvious he did multiple things wrong. What I do believe I implied was that just because someone tries to do something on a bike like that, doesn't mean they aren't an "experienced" all around rider.
Finally, to drive my point forward a bit with that thought process, I simply asked anyone critiquing him to post a video doing the same stupid thing he did. I want to see a video of you guys reving you're bikes to whatever rpm makes 80% of your max horsepower from a dead stop. I'm sure we'd all love to see you're clutch control in a situation like this.
I would hope so. However, If I asked you to sit at a red light and rev your bike to 10krpm...would you have the experience to know how much clutch is needed for minimal slippage? Perhaps you would or perhaps you don't? I assume either way that you're a competent enough rider.
Maybe my statements above were unclear. I don't believe I said he was any good at what he tried to do. It's quite obvious he did multiple things wrong. What I do believe I implied was that just because someone tries to do something on a bike like that, doesn't mean they aren't an "experienced" all around rider.
Finally, to drive my point forward a bit with that thought process, I simply asked anyone critiquing him to post a video doing the same stupid thing he did. I want to see a video of you guys reving you're bikes to whatever rpm makes 80% of your max horsepower from a dead stop. I'm sure we'd all love to see you're clutch control in a situation like this.
The simple reality is the fellow was demonstrating a technique that puts excessive wear on the clutch. An experienced rider doesn't do that because there is no benefit to doing it.
Actually, even for cars with a manual transmission, when you rev something say a VTEC honda at 7500rpm while fully stopped from 1st gear the car "peels out" and even this is not good for cars as well.
The only conditions under which you'd try to take off with high revs and slow clutch is if the vehicle is badly over loaded, or on a god awful step hill.