Which subwoofer should I look at?

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: spidey07
I'm still torn between upgrading to the B4 or adding another PB12+ ultra.

mmmm, stereo bass.

Get the B4 and give me your PB12+ ultra.

I'll trade you for a

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Originally posted by: ethebubbeth
Congrats on the RF-7s :shocked:

I scored a pair of cheap RF-3's off ebay over the summer and am really happy. Those 7's will blow you out of the water :thumbsup:

And what everyone is saying is completely true... save up and get a sub. Any sub cheaper than 500-600 bucks will most likely not sound any better than the woofers in the floorstanding mains, other than giving you a couple Hz extra extention.

Thanks for the compliments

I appreciate everyone's comments in this thread, I'll probably go with one of the SVS cylindrical woofers!

Cheers! :beer:

 

[Doggiedog]

I've got a Definitive Technology 15" sub.

I'll probably get an SVS PB10 for my other stereo setup.

BTW, you can check this website for subs as well.

 

[Shawn]

MB Quart

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog
I've got a Definitive Technology 15" sub.

I'll probably get an SVS PB10 for my other stereo setup.

BTW, you can check this website for subs as well.

Whoa

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homesubw&1134151100

 

[arod]

I love my pb10.... best sub i have ever owned.

 

[13Gigatons]

http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html

They use the aura 1808 which was bought by http://seismicsubs.com/ who improved on the design even further.

 

[ThisIsMatt]

SVS or DIY

 

[stevent76]

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
SVS or DIY

Wanna hook some HT geeks up with some box specs of that DIY?

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html

They use the aura 1808 which was bought by http://seismicsubs.com/ who improved on the design even further.

The XS is kind of a strange, underported beast. It takes roughly two of them to equal a single Acoustic Visions Pinnacle Everest

 

[ThisIsMatt]

Originally posted by: stevent76

Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
SVS or DIY

Wanna hook some HT geeks up with some box specs of that DIY?

updated the page

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html

They use the aura 1808 which was bought by http://seismicsubs.com/ who improved on the design even further.

The XS is kind of a strange, underported beast. It takes roughly two of them to equal a single Acoustic Visions Pinnacle Everest

Don't bet on that, the Wilson is huge and pretty damn efficient. It produces over 112db at 16 hertz. The ports are small but if designed well it will limit port noise.

The Everest is an interesting design but there is no free lunch. Putting two 15" in a small enclosure and then using Passive Radiators instead of Ports won't give you any more output. It's just a way to get around the port length that wouldn't work in an enclosure that small.

The best way to go is to get a 18" siesmic 8196 and design an enclosure yourself and then get a decent amp. The whole super sub project could be done for under $1000.

 

[Rubycon]

My recommendation to the OP is to RUN not walk away...

Audiophilsm is a serious disorder. Far worse than drinking, getting high or making babies when you cannot afford them!

Next thing you know you will have a separate room in your house (or several of them!), 400 Amp service which 200 is used for your sound and have no friends as you become known as "the person from number four".

Worm, your honor, I would like to request the following exhibits to be entered as evidence:


The sound stage room - Exhibit A

The stereo subwoofers required with tall line arrays room - Exhibit B

Remember who told you!

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html

They use the aura 1808 which was bought by http://seismicsubs.com/ who improved on the design even further.

The XS is kind of a strange, underported beast. It takes roughly two of them to equal a single Acoustic Visions Pinnacle Everest

Don't bet on that, the Wilson is huge and pretty damn efficient. It produces over 112db at 16 hertz. The ports are small but if designed well it will limit port noise.

The Everest is an interesting design but there is no free lunch. Putting two 15" in a small enclosure and then using Passive Radiators instead of Ports won't give you any more output. It's just a way to get around the port length that wouldn't work in an enclosure that small.

The best way to go is to get a 18" siesmic 8196 and design an enclosure yourself and then get a decent amp. The whole super sub project could be done for under $1000.

You should check out AVS forums. There are guys there who actually have the XS and have upgraded.

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello

Originally posted by: Flashram
SVS. Love mine (next to an old Logitech Sub).

Here's the PB10 with the dayton 10" on top of it

random linky

And here's a B4+ next to a tiny Atlantic Technology 370 THX Ultra certified 15" subwoofer:

Linky

LOL, SVS giant box subs are awesome. I'd buy one if I have the space to put one.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: technogeeky
I used to have a Klipsch KSW-12 subwoofer before the amp just died on me (argh!) and I replaced it with the

Dayton 12' 150w Powered Subwoofer.

I got it for $150 shipped and it was quite bit better (by my ears) than the KSW-12. AVSForums thinks the Dayton 12 is one of the best buys for the money.

http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=300-634

Another vote for the Dayton. I have their 10", and it's amazing.

 

[Tiamat]

Dayton 12"
HSU STF-2
SVS PB-10
Outlaw UFW10
ACI Titan (I have this one and it is phenominal)

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Apex
Klipsch subs are not great for the money.

agreed.

SVS and HSU are great for the money.

And yes, you should just save the extra money. Most subs under 500 are piss poor performers. outside of the DIY world

Fixed

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: b0mbrman

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: Apex
Klipsch subs are not great for the money.

agreed.

SVS and HSU are great for the money.

And yes, you should just save the extra money. Most subs under 500 are piss poor performers. outside of the DIY world

Fixed

Fair enough. As long as they follow plans.

Lots of folks just take a driver and stick in a box of a given volume and wonder why it sounds so crappy.

 

[Fenixgoon]

SVS subs are increidble, my bro has a cylinder series - shakes the floor and the volume control is barely up!:thumbsup:

 

[Ares2600]

I just bought this after some guys on avsforum gushed about it for the price: http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/549923327

It shipped today so I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
http://www.wilsonaudio.com/products/xs/index.html

They use the aura 1808 which was bought by http://seismicsubs.com/ who improved on the design even further.

The XS is kind of a strange, underported beast. It takes roughly two of them to equal a single Acoustic Visions Pinnacle Everest

Don't bet on that, the Wilson is huge and pretty damn efficient. It produces over 112db at 16 hertz. The ports are small but if designed well it will limit port noise.

The Everest is an interesting design but there is no free lunch. Putting two 15" in a small enclosure and then using Passive Radiators instead of Ports won't give you any more output. It's just a way to get around the port length that wouldn't work in an enclosure that small.

The best way to go is to get a 18" siesmic 8196 and design an enclosure yourself and then get a decent amp. The whole super sub project could be done for under $1000.

You should check out AVS forums. There are guys there who actually have the XS and have upgraded.

Upgrade to what ?

You can build more subs if you need more output. I have installed sixteen 18" in a large hall for people who wanted effortless bass. There is no finer bass transducer though then the 8196 and I have heard a lot in the last 15 years.

 

[Rubycon]

This gives big budget bass on limited budget wallet.

 

[YOyoYOhowsDAjello]

Used 25-31 PC+ for $500 shipped

I showed Agaboogaboo and then thought about getting it myself, but I can't justify it.

If anyone is interested that's a very nice deal.

This sells for $775 new + whatever shipping is.

He's selling it for less than the PCi version and including shipping on it.

This model includes port plugs that you can use to change the tuning on it. There are 16hz and 12hz extension modes depending on settings.

525watt bash amp

The dB-12 driver vs the standard ISD driver...

If this was the 16-46 PC+ I don't think I could have resisted.

 

[Rubycon]

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