Which system is a better value?

stuman74

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Lunyone

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Either will do, but personally I like about 4 gb's of RAM with Vista, but that is just me. My wife's laptop does fine for her on Vista 32bit, but she doesn't know what she's missing. I'd just go with the cheapest option if I were you.
 

ChAoTiCpInOy

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I'd go with the cheaper option considering it has a dedicated video card and a quad core processor. You may want to upgrade the ram though.
 

JackMDS

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Unless there is something in the Video that you can not live with the 545 is a better deal.
 

SonnyDaze

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I'd call it a coin toss. The second option has a bit more for just a few dollars more but it has the C2D vs a C2Q. But the C2D is probably all the cpu power they need really.

 

Eureka

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The C2D is plenty of power for what they're doing, people are always pushing for quad-cores but there aren't that many situations where you utilize all that power and almost no programs that will actually need it. A nice speedy dual core with more ram and more hard drive space is a lot better than having a quad core processor.
 

stuman74

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Hmmm, should I maybe pass on to them my 530 (see sig below) that is about a year and a half old and get the 2.8/6gig/750gig for myself? Or not worth the swap for myself? I would then get the Windows7 upgrade which I doubt means anything to them.
 

stuman74

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Originally posted by: alyarb
yes, do that.

I had a thread once before where most people said that the Q6600 was still better than the E7400, but that was just processor to processor. In this case, I would be getting more RAM and a 50% bigger hard drive. I am a more intense user than my in-laws of course. Hmmm....
 

alyarb

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more RAM isn't going to increase the performance of the system, it just lets you have comparatively more concurrent tasks open at a given time. Go with the 2.33 GHz quad and upgrade the ram (yourself) for $20.
 

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Quad core is probably faster and has a larger cache size on the processor. I have a computer with an E7200 CPU and it seems to run great but I think the Quad will run faster. It will be closer to the performance of a E8400. You could see if you can find some kind of a website like www.tomshardware.com where they show you what kind of performance you can expect from the two processors.
 

alyarb

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Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Originally posted by: alyarb
RAM isn't going to increase the performance of the system,



thanks for completely taking that out of context so that you can rebut it with your staggeringly articulate use of emoticons. are you trying to make a scene or just confuse the OP? we are talking about a quad core with 2GB versus a dual core with 6GB. the additional 4GB will not transform the experience of everyday tasks like browsing/communication or come anywhere close to making the system as fast as two more CPU cores would. if you want to contribute to this thread or help the OP, you should try again, but I fear that in the time it takes you to come up with something constructive he'll be looking at $400 ivy bridge machines.

get the core2 quad and buy a memory kit from newegg (or you could put your existing RAM into your new Dell and give your in-laws the Dell memory with your old build).
 

SonnyDaze

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Originally posted by: alyarb
Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Originally posted by: alyarb
RAM isn't going to increase the performance of the system,



thanks for completely taking that out of context so that you can rebut it with your staggeringly articulate use of emoticons. are you trying to make a scene or just confuse the OP? we are talking about a quad core with 2GB versus a dual core with 6GB. the additional 4GB will not transform the experience of everyday tasks like browsing/communication or come anywhere close to making the system as fast as two more CPU cores would. if you want to contribute to this thread or help the OP, you should try again, but I fear that in the time it takes you to come up with something constructive he'll be looking at $400 ivy bridge machines.

get the core2 quad and buy a memory kit from newegg (or you could put your existing RAM into your new Dell and give your in-laws the Dell memory with your old build).

I was actually stupified by your statement concering RAM usage not increasing system performance. If this were true I think we would still be using 640k systems.


 

alyarb

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a clearer explanation than what i've already given would be utterly wasted on you.
 

yh125d

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Alyarb, sonny's not trolling you, he's right. More RAM would probably be more beneficial for the stated purposes than a quad which will sit at 5% utilization most of its life
 

alyarb

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if stu is thinking of handing his 65nm quad down so he can keep the 45nm for himself, he has the RAM he needs in his existing dell. if he wants to step down to a dual core that is his business. i'm talking about what is best for stu, not his wife's parents. the cheapest/best thing to do would be to get the quad with 2GB of ram, put the existing 4GB into the 45nm system and put the new 2GB kit into the 65nm system and give it away. It's a faster, lower-power sidegrade for him with a free upgrade to Win7 and a huge boon of longevity for the in-laws.

The only "stated purposes" stu lists are tasks that either system will handle admirably. if sonny weren't trolling, he would've responded with words rather than an emote or sarcastic one-liner and he would've properly quoted my post. instead, he implies that more is always better when it comes to RAM and that the difference between duals and quads are negligible in this case. completely unprovoked, he puts up a straw man named alyarb who advocates a yorkfield system w/ 640K. i'm at a loss as to how his thoughtlessness is my fault, and i've said it many times now: switch to the yorkfield and keep your 4GB. lower power and higher IPC than the kentsfield plus a free win7 upgrade.
 

stuman74

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Thanks everyone for your input. I wound up pulling the trigger on one for them (well, most likely for them) which should last them quite a while. It's very similar to the 2nd one listed, but 4GB RAM instead of 6GB and it's a "scratch and dent" version per Dell's site. It's also listed as $70 less so with the 15% coupon and after tax and free shipping, it was only $291 total. Seems like a good deal and should suit them well. Plus, it should be eligible to upgrade to a copy of Windows 7 that I'm assuming when it's sent I can use on my 530, right?

Inspiron 545s

* Inspiron Desktop 545s SlimTower
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
Memory
4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 800MHz (2 DIMMs)
Hard Disk Drive
750 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
Modem
56K DataFax Modem
Scratch & Dent
Scratch & Dent
Media Bay
16X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
Base
Inspiron Desktop 545s SlimTower
Hardware Upgrade
Dell USB Entry Keyboard
Dell 19 in 1 Media Card Reader
125V Power Cord
Optical 2-Button Mouse
Software Upgrade
Windows Live
64BIT Operating System DVD
Microsoft Works 9.0
64BIT Operating System CD
Processor
Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E7400 (2.8GHz, 3M, L2Cache, 1066FSB)
System Color
Piano Black
Chassis Type
Slim Tower
 
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