which x800xl to get?

[ddogg]

hmmm...well a lot of ppl have had bad xperiences with MSI. havent heard of any myself though...better to play it safe and get another brand

 

[jimgeagea]

is it worth to get the HIS brand, it cost 400$ plus i cant find it in any store! i live in US

 

[dajo]

No! These cards are all going to perform at about the same level. You will see very little difference between them in benchmarking and in real world every day use you will not notice any difference. You can get a good x800 xl for $279 shipped today! Look at newegg.com, chiefvalue.com, and monarchcomputer.

Like I said above - I got the connect3d x800 xl retail for $249 shipped from monarchcomputer last week. They will have a similar deal any day.

 

[jimgeagea]

ok, if you had to choose between AMD 3800 and x850xt or AMD 4000 and x800xl
what will u choose?

 

[Cheesetogo]

Originally posted by: jimgeagea
ok, if you had to choose between AMD 3800 and x850xt or AMD 4000 and x800xl
what will u choose?

3800 and x850xt, but I would never buy that high end of a proccesor when the low end ones can be overclocked to over fx-55 speeds on air.

 

[Munky]

If you plan on replacing the heatsink with a zalman, it will void your warranty, so forget about the 3 year warranty on BBA cards. In general, the x800xl is not such a great overclocker, but if you get the one with a molex connector, it will have more potential to overclock with more power to the card.

 

[jimgeagea]

can you give me a link? at zipzoomfly? with x800xl with molex connector???

 

[jimgeagea]

guys i am thinking of getting 3800 and xl
regarding upcoming dual core and ati 32 pipelines, plus there will only be a 5% difference in performance and some 250$ difference .
what do u think??

 

[dajo]

Originally posted by: jimgeagea
ok, if you had to choose between AMD 3800 and x850xt or AMD 4000 and x800xl
what will u choose?

Definitely the x850 xt. It is a screamer compared to the x800 xl. My son has an x800 xt AIW paired with a 2800+ (1.8GHz). His rig can play anything. He uses a trainer in LOTR Middle Earth (which is a very hardware intensive game) and I've seen him have over 3000 units at play with very little slow down.

I know that at some point the cpu will limit performance, but the amd 64 is such a good gaming chip that the difference between the 3800 and 4000 is not going to be nearly as much as the difference between the x800 xl and the x850 xt. Search for some reviews. You're looking at a 20% difference in performance between those cards PLUS the x850 xt should overlock nicely. My x850 Pro, which is similar but only has 12 pipelines, has 1.6ns ram and does 600/1200 rock steady.

Look at some reviews of the x850xt/x800 xl comparisons, and some cpu reviews of the 4000 and 3800 - sure you'll gain some fps with the 4000 but not as many as with the x850 xt over the x800 xl.

I wish I had the bucks to be making the kind of decisions you're making because I wouldn't hesitate to go with the 3800/x850xt combo. As it is, I have a 3200+ @ 2.48GHz paired with an x850 Pro @ 600/1200. That's okay, though, because I still score 175 fps in CS Stress Test, 76K in AquaMark, just under 6K in 3dMark05, and a little over 12K in 3dMark03.

Life is good when there's new hardware on the way, isn't it?

 

[user1234]

Originally posted by: Preti9cboi
why as MSI gown down the hill?

Maybe you ment the other way around?

Sapphire bulk.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=320834

MSI are playing both sides of the fence - Nivida and ATI - that smells kind of fishy. Also they pulled that nasty trick of marketing a 6800 GTO as a GT (a GTO is a special castrated version of the GT which is only available to OEMs) . They stopped that after Nvidia got compalints from customers and told them they can't do that anymore (the naming must folow nvidia's guidelines). But it still stinks bad. MSI do usually include extra software (ASUS does the same) like games which might appeal to you.