whistler radar detector 24.99

Takooj

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ive been looking for one. i was gonna get a nice Passport (is it nice) or a solo... but then i realized im a broke college kid who has to pay for his new car so i picked one of these babies up.
 

knightc2

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Saw this earlier. I ordered two of them. Nice deal IMHO. Can't go wrong at that price. Better jump on this fast as it is only good through TODAY!
 

OS

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Does anyone know if this model is any good? radartest.com does rank most whistlers as atleast average.

I just don't want to end up like my friend who bought a radar detector that warns him when he can already see the patrol car.
 

knightc2

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I have seen mixed reviews on this while searching for info on it. I saw a few posts about it not having laser capability, but the description at Buy.com says it does. For $25, I will take my chances. I don't currently have a working radar detector so this will be better than nothing. I am not much of a lead foot anymore anyway so if it doesn't work well it gets sold to someone I don't like.

EDIT: Does not have the ability to hide from or detect VG-2 detectors. If this is important to you, then don't buy this. This does not matter to me as radar detectors are legal in my state (Michigan) and the cops in my neck of the woods are too cheap to use this type of technology anyhow. If you live in Canada, Virgina, or Washington DC, this is a must have. (Maybe other areas too?)
 

Stealth

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I'm interested in getting this too. Got a ANOTHER speeding ticket over July 4th weekend. Anyone know how good this is?
 

knightc2

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Here is a link to the owner's manual for those that are interested. I have scoured the internet for the last few minutes and have yet to come up with any in depth reviews of this device. If anyone finds anything, please post it.
 

knightc2

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i sure hope everyone here is painfully aware that radar detectors do absolutely jack and squat.
I am here to tell you that you are wrong. I have been saved many a time by my radar detector (before it broke and I tossed it in the garbage). I remember one time back in my Mario Andretti days when I actually got a ticket when using my detector and they got me at 7 mph over the speed limit. If my detector hadn't gone off, I wouldn't have been able to slow down and avoid a huge fine if not a reckless driving citation as I was doing well over 30 mph above the speed limit. The officer looked at me and gave me a smart remark about my radar detector not saving me a ticket. I just though, if you only knew how fast I was really going...
It is true that they are not fool proof, but using common sense coupled with a good radar detector is the best way to avoid a ticket (other than not speeding in the first place).
 

ingenue007

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I have a similar Whistler model. K band detection is adequate. Ka band detection is pretty bad. Likes to go off when there are radio towers around. I notice that K band will go off when the cop is under .5 miles. Falses a lot and is pretty much useless in the city. I was too cheap to save up for a v1 and now I regret it (mine was 140 or so; when did radars suddenly drop in price?). I am getting the V1 sometime next week. 25 isn't much to spend so give it a shot. But if you're serious about radars, save for the V1.
 

OS

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Originally posted by: ingenue007
I have a similar Whistler model. K band detection is adequate. Ka band detection is pretty bad. Likes to go off when there are radio towers around. I notice that K band will go off when the cop is under .5 miles. Falses a lot and is pretty much useless in the city. I was too cheap to save up for a v1 and now I regret it (mine was 140 or so; when did radars suddenly drop in price?). I am getting the V1 sometime next week. 25 isn't much to spend so give it a shot. But if you're serious about radars, save for the V1.

I haven't used either of these models, but supposedly the V1 also falses alot. I have a friend who swears by his, but he says he gets all kinds of crap like the V1 alerting him that walmart is nearby.

 

oddjob303

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Originally posted by: OS


I haven't used either of these models, but supposedly the V1 also falses alot. I have a friend who swears by his, but he says he gets all kinds of crap like the V1 alerting him that walmart is nearby.

LOL walmart...I should put some money into a good one but my car needs new brakes and a coulpe other things
 

sat4fun

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Originally posted by: skarydrunkguy
i sure hope everyone here is painfully aware that radar detectors do absolutely jack and squat.

That is a totally ignorant remark. I had a POS battery powered detector that saved me HUNDREDS of dollars in fines and raised insurance.
 

thesaint37

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Before I start, I'd just like to say that I am not threadcrapping, just sharing information pertaining to the thread that might affect people's decision to purchase, which is pretty important. Even though skarydrunkguy's remark seems rash, he is closer to being right than anyone else. I will share my story past weekend as well as most of my knowledge on this topic, whether you will believe/listen to me is, obviously, up to you. And just to give some background, I am very enthusiastic about driving, and so I did all the research I can find about radar/laser/etc. and tried out some top equipment, yet I still failed, read the Long story to find out how..

Really short story: Don't buy this detector or ANY detector. I've just been down this road, and I can honestly say it's not worth having.

Short story: No detector less than $300 is worth having, why do you think Escort and V1 haven't dropped thier prices in years? And a cheap detector will actually cause more harm than good because it will false like no other, and cause you to get used to ignoring it, and when there's actually a cop monitoring speed, it will warn you way too late (or not at all, see below). Also, it is impossible to eliminate false alarms on a detector without eliminating its ability to pick up speed patrols. These are radar detectors, not cop detectors.

Long story: This past weekend I was driving up to MA and I had the latest Escort Solo S2 Radar/Laser Detector, which is basically identical to the Passport 8500 except the S2 is cordless. For those of you who haven't done the research, Escort's 8500/S2 basically always win first or second in all the top detector tests; it's up there with the Valentine1. Escort is known for good false-alarm filtering, and V1 is known for extreme sensitivity (so yes, V1 will false A LOT, but it's better to be safe than sorry). Sensitivity is also why the Passport and V1 have cost the same for years with no price drop, even though there are really cheap detectors, which are useless. And don't read radartest, lots of people suspect they are biased, read the test on speedzones or car&driver. Anyway, last Sat. night I was pulled over in Connecticut doing 96mph, got a $280 ticket, and the entire time there was not a peep from the detector. Why? Simple, the cop was using laser, which no radar detector can guard against no matter what the detector companies claim.

Lasers need to be aimed at reflective/flat surfaces so the cops always shoot either your license plates or headlights, which are both too far away from the detector for the detector to pick up anything. Also, lasers are usually used at close ranges (<1000 ft), because the beam gets narrower with less distance, so the cop just has to hide and shoot you when you get close. Furthermore, the only times when laser warnings actually help is when your detector picks up stray laser beams of the cop testing somebody ahead of you. If you are alone and the cop shoots you with a laser, it won't matter if your detector beeps because he's already got your speed. Instant-On radars share a very similar concept. The instant-on radar will be off until the cop sees somebody who he thinks might be speeding, then, as the speeder approaches, the cop will flick the switch and his radar will instantly turn on and read the speed, which will defeat any radar detector because there wasn't anything to detect before that moment. Just as with laser, the detector is only semi-useful against instant-on if it picks up stray signals of the cop testing other people ahead of you. So basically, stray signals are the only basis on which detector manufacturers can claim to 'protect' you from laser and instant-on, and that is not much to go on at all.

It used to be that many police depts could not afford laser guns, but nowadays laser gun manufacturers are giving depts free guns and they don't have to pay for it until they catch a certain quota of speeders with the guns. The only protection against lasers are laser jammers, and since jammers are illegal, you have to shell out about $1600 total to get a professional stealth installation done. So bottom line, as much as I hate to admit it, the cops are pulling ahead in this game, and at this point even top detectors like Passport and V1 will only be effective against constant radar, which is used less and less. I guess in the end, it is better for everyone if we all just follow rules, and cops usually won't pull you over unless you go more than 15mph over the limit. But if you have that extreme need for speed and the wallet to support it, just get a V1 and a top laser jamming system, both with stealth installation (offered at custom shops and some fancy car dealerships). So yea, take what you want from this and good luck!
 

tivo1

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thesaint37:

Just so you know jammers are not illegal in all states...

do you have any good references for these? I had been considering getting one... also hook us up on some info with the stealth install..

Does anyone know how good these jammers are?

Thanks
 

rmrf

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Sorry, but that SKU is no longer available as a Price Mistake of the Day

this is what the site says when I click on the link
 

ThetaOne

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Even though this is off topic.. I will say this...

You get what you pay for - I use an Escort Passport 8500 and a Valentine One v1.8 in conjunction with one another, and still can't protect myself against most laser and instant-on traps.

By buying a $25 detector, you're giving yourself a false sense of security, nothing more.
 

thesaint37

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Even if these things are legal in your state, the cop will usually be in a pissy mood if he sees your car fitted with detectors/jammers As for stealth installs:

InvisiMirror - For $400 these people fuse a V1 into the rearview mirror, as awesome as a V1 stealth install can get IMO.. They seem to be upgrading their site, so there aren't any pics, but here's a pic I dug up on a bimmer forum.

Laser jammers: Escort ZR3 Laser Shifter, K40 Laser Defuser Plus. A good stealth install can cost something like $1600. Be careful though, I read somewhere that new laser guns can tell whether it is being jammed.

For those who are realllly crazy about this, protection against cop laser/radar shares similar principles as stealth bombers, so optimally you'd go and buy the most angular-shaped car out there and coat it with some stealth bomber paint... that way when the signals bounce off of your car the cop'll just think he missed and not suspect you have a jammer. But anyway, since this is starting to get OT I will stop.

Originally posted by: tivo1
thesaint37:

Just so you know jammers are not illegal in all states...

do you have any good references for these? I had been considering getting one... also hook us up on some info with the stealth install..

Does anyone know how good these jammers are?

Thanks
 

knightc2

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By buying a $25 detector, you're giving yourself a false sense of security, nothing more.
I am not going to change my driving habits just because I am buying a radar detector. Nothing beats using common sense and obeying the speed limit when it comes to being safe and avoiding a ticket. If this $25 detector, which I admit is nothing special and may not work very well, saves me one ticket, then it has paid for itself twice. This is just another level of security while driving. A radar detector is not a license to speed. If anyone is buying this so they can throw caution to the wind and drive as fast as they wish, then you better spend $300 on a better unit. For $25 this will suit my needs just fine.
 

thesaint37

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I understand your point, but that long post of mine in this thread was aimed at telling people that buying a $25 detector is simply wasting $25, police speed monitoring technologies have advanced greatly and at this point, a $25 detector will pretty much never save you even one ticket, because for $25 you will not have enough range, and so by the time your detector beeps, the cop's radar will have already printed out your speed, not to mention if the cop is using laser or instant-on, you have zero chance. When I bought my first detector, it was a $35 detector from an AT hot deals post, and I told myself the same thing, that it's just extra protection "in case" and I won't drive any faster, but that doesn't work because you'd just get frustrated after a month of the detector going nuts beeping at the grocery store, so take my advice and just use the "no more than 15mph over the limit" rule, which will take you a lot farther than any detector. Best of luck to all of you..


Originally posted by: knightc2
By buying a $25 detector, you're giving yourself a false sense of security, nothing more.
I am not going to change my driving habits just because I am buying a radar detector. Nothing beats using common sense and obeying the speed limit when it comes to being safe and avoiding a ticket. If this $25 detector, which I admit is nothing special and may not work very well, saves me one ticket, then it has paid for itself twice. This is just another level of security while driving. A radar detector is not a license to speed. If anyone is buying this so they can throw caution to the wind and drive as fast as they wish, then you better spend $300 on a better unit. For $25 this will suit my needs just fine.
 
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