WHITE HOT Mitsubishi BIG SCREEN TV 65''

[Dyre]

Dont forget that Plasmas also suck down 600+ Watts on the smaller 42" tvs. Thats double to tripple the power of other technologies.

That said, we have two 42" plasmas, a DLP Front projector, and a 51" Toshiba RPTV-

Basically what it comes down to is there is no perfect tv technology for every situation. You have to know the pros and cons of each and choose the best for your situation.

 

[Zendeath]

Originally posted by: Dyre
Dont forget that Plasmas also suck down 600+ Watts on the smaller 42" tvs. Thats double to tripple the power of other technologies.

The new Panasonic 42" ED & HD commercial PDP's consume 275w and 337w repectively - the 50" HD model only consumes 440w.

While the 300+ lb. beast referenced by the OP consumes 240w in comparison, it is hardly a significant difference.

 

[SonicIce]

<--- waits for affordable 1080p
thanks for the story, ncage

 

[Goosemaster]

I wonder what the actual practical resolution of one of these thigns is...assuming that you used it as a monitor...

 

[HDTVMan]

The problem with waiting for 1080P is where are you going to get a 1080P broadcast? The only source would come from HD-DVD media recorded in 1080P. Which most will only be up to 1080i.

You wont see the broadcast companies jumping to 1080P especially after doing/costing so much to get to 1080i. You wont see dish or direct tv going to 1080P just because of the bandwidth requirements as well as the Cable companies. So will you need a line doubler for 1080i to be 1080P but that wont make the picture better becuase 1080i is 1080lines just interlaced and 1080p is 1080lines just drawn at the same time. I would also imagine that will be another couple hundred tacked on to it. I have broadcast 1080i at 120" and it looks beautiful.

Considering I paid $2799.00 for my 65" Toshiba HDTV this is a great deal. Granted I have pegasys lenses and 30% larger guns than traditional 65" hdtv's. I have friends with plasma and dlp and they are amazed at the picture I get on my HDTV compared to theirs. They both feel they overpaid for thier sets. Of course I do my own calibrations also. I play on blacking out the interior cabinet soon also to get a better picture as well. Its not needed but its easy for me to do as I am a perfectionist when it comes to my HDTV.

This is a great deal I would jump on it.

 

[John P]

For those of you bashing rear projection TV's:

I own a Toshiba 42HDX82 Cinema series RPTV and the picture is nearly as good as any plasma or LCD when watching DVD's or HDTV broadcasts. The SDTV broadcasts in Theatre Wide 1 stretch mode are phenomonal compared to ANY plasma or LCD I have seen. The viewing angle is actually more of a problem up or down than it is side to side. If you're sitting in a chair you have to be dang near the side of the TV to get a bad picture. And as far as lighting - mine is right next to a sliding glass door that we leave open in the summer a lot, the TV automatically adjusts brightness based on lighting conditions and does a dang good job of it.

My whole point is...... don't poo poo RPTV's - you can get some pretty great deals and the picture can be nearly as nice as Plamas or LCD's. If you are buying something make sure you check the picture yourself - try to watch some SDTV cable channels if you will be watching it a lot of regular TV broadcasts and check the stretch modes to make sure you can live with them. For instance, if you wander over to the AVS forums you will see a lot of people hate the stretch modes on the 42" Maxent Plasma that was on sale at Costco a week or so ago.

 

[Milkyman]

i believe i can say with confidence that never in the history of television has buying one been so confusing. The more you find out about each kind of tv the harder it gets to decide.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: ncage

Originally posted by: keeleysam
cliffs?

huh? What are you needing?

Ritalin.

 

[hydro1234]

I've had that TV for a couple years now and this is a great deal. I've never seen a dlp that can match its picture. If you have the space and don't mind that lack of 1080p or 720p you'll be very happy with it. I'd only go dlp if I wanted to play alot of video games on it.

 

[RBBRMADE]

I have a Mits 65511 (65' RPTV) that I bought for a TV room a couple of years ago. The room is dark and perfect for a RPTV.
It does not weigh 250-300lb.s.........It weighs 320lb.s!
Cannot game on it? The XBox looks great on it.
I also have friends with plasmas, LCDs, etc...
Guess where they come to watch the big games in HD?

If you have a TV room that you can keep relatively dark and can set the lighting up to keep the reflections from hitting the screen, a RPTV is a good choice!

Seeya!
Ron

 

[HDTVMan]

Originally posted by: John P.
For those of you bashing rear projection TV's:

I own a Toshiba 42HDX82 Cinema series RPTV and the picture is nearly as good as any plasma or LCD when watching DVD's or HDTV broadcasts. The SDTV broadcasts in Theatre Wide 1 stretch mode are phenomonal compared to ANY plasma or LCD I have seen. The viewing angle is actually more of a problem up or down than it is side to side. If you're sitting in a chair you have to be dang near the side of the TV to get a bad picture. And as far as lighting - mine is right next to a sliding glass door that we leave open in the summer a lot, the TV automatically adjusts brightness based on lighting conditions and does a dang good job of it.

My whole point is...... don't poo poo RPTV's - you can get some pretty great deals and the picture can be nearly as nice as Plamas or LCD's. If you are buying something make sure you check the picture yourself - try to watch some SDTV cable channels if you will be watching it a lot of regular TV broadcasts and check the stretch modes to make sure you can live with them. For instance, if you wander over to the AVS forums you will see a lot of people hate the stretch modes on the 42" Maxent Plasma that was on sale at Costco a week or so ago.

Nice I went for the 65HDX82.

The HDX line was extremly high rated because of the lenses and guns they used. Its like getting the Carl Zeis of digital camera's.

You cant argue with this price. Certainly no need to hold out for 1080P because there is no media or broadcast to support 1080P.

 

[smartt]

What a way to spend a Saturday night.

 

[maxcom]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: ncage

Originally posted by: keeleysam
cliffs?

huh? What are you needing?

Ritalin.

ROFL:laugh:

 

[fourml8r]

Originally posted by: trinketsummoner
Having switched from a CRT RPTV to a DLP one, i think you should mention the significant drawbacks of CRT based sets if you are going to compare them to other technologies.

First, CRTs are going to weigh a LOT more, that 65" id imagine is 250-300Ibs, compared to 100Ibs for a DLP set thats a lot of difference, esp if you have to move it far, or have it delivered up steps.

Second, burn in is very common on CRTs, mine suffered from it even though i tried to be careful, but seeing as most channels have logos these days, its hard to avoid. You also cant game on them because of the static images that most games have.

Third, while picture quality is great once calibrated, if you have anything close to a bright room forget about it, the picture is too dim and off angle viewing is very poor. Be prepared to watch TV with the lights off and the blinds down if you want great quality.

Lastly, almost all CRT sets dont have HDMI which is important for the future if you want to watch HD-DVD or even use the XBOX360 to its best advantage. Personally, i would say unless price is your absolute driving factor, get an LCD or DLP RPTV.

RPTV is by far the best TV bargain available at the momnet. It is an "older" but more perfected technology. Prices are dropping slowly and there are many good bargains to be had ($2000 for 65" sets etc.). Burn in is not really an issue with these sets with nirmal use. The main disadvantages are size (But who sees this when the lights are out???), weight (How often are you moving this and it is on wheels). Properly calibrated sets will give you as good if not better pictures than DLP/LCD. The main issue is brightness. These are not the best ofr daily daytime TV viewing, they are adequate but not the best. But for Home theater use they are hard to beat.

DLP /LCD are newer and more expensive. Prices are dropping fast so if you buy today you will be kicking yourself next month since better deals will be available.

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: Milkyman
i believe i can say with confidence that never in the history of television has buying one been so confusing. The more you find out about each kind of tv the harder it gets to decide.

QFT <-- first time I ever did this... feel kind of guilty.

 

[Maetryx]

Bump because last night I noticed that I could get a $200 DirecTV satellite a/v reciever / HDTV tuner for nothing. Add the TV to your cart. Add the $100 gift card to your cart. Add the DirecTV $199.99 satellite a/v reciver / HDTV tuner... the total is still $1800.00

I'm waiting for a house to sale. This is likely the setup I will buy if the sales are still in effect at Best Buy when I get my big check.

edit: the DirecTV unit requirest a DirecTV subscription, BTW.

 

[Midwayman]

Consider the fact that you cant get 1:1 pixel reproduction with a CRT based set like you can with a DLP or CRT set. Thats a BIG issue if you want to use a HTPC or just use the TV as a monitor. Then there is the dim, burn in prone nature of CRTs. PQ in perfect lighting is very good though. on 4:3 material you really need to use grey bars or stretch the signal to avoid uneven phospher burn on CRT's as well.

Assuming you can't see the rainbow effect, DLP really is the supeior technology in most lighting conditions. I got a 52" toshiba DLP for $1440 brand new non refurb at frys a couple weeks back.

Oh and 720p>1080i.

 

[Thoreau]

Originally posted by: vrbaba

Originally posted by: entropy1982
ygpm ncage but i guess u kinda answered my q already will definitely tell dad about it.... wattahell is the reason to buy a dlp for then anyway?

lol, dont be so naive. If you go look, bet the picture quality will blow away any crt u have seen.

ncage has pointed out few of the 'potential' problems, which a LOT of owners DO NOT experience. ppl who do, post about it online, and ppl who dont, dont care abt posting anything. plus, rainbow effects due to the color wheel is not noticeable to non videophiles and very bearable to more than 90% of of those who do see them.

depending what u plan to watch on ur tv the most, one will prefer one or the other.

again, in the end, its what ur eyes see as the best counts.

I've got an LG 42" DLP that I bought about 9 months ago. Loving EVERY second of it. I watch a good mix of HD and non-HD content and both show up just fine (watch both in 1080i most of the time.) So far I haven't noticed any types of rainbow effects from the color wheel and don't expect to. The *only* thing that will be even a slight downside for this set will be buying a new bulb in a couple years.

 

[manno]

Originally posted by: Maetryx

Originally posted by: Milkyman
i believe i can say with confidence that never in the history of television has buying one been so confusing. The more you find out about each kind of tv the harder it gets to decide.

QFT <-- first time I ever did this... feel kind of guilty.

what does QFT mean?

 

[Zendeath]

Originally posted by: manno

Originally posted by: Maetryx

Originally posted by: Milkyman
i believe i can say with confidence that never in the history of television has buying one been so confusing. The more you find out about each kind of tv the harder it gets to decide.

QFT <-- first time I ever did this... feel kind of guilty.

what does QFT mean?

Quantum Field Theory?

 

[RossMAN]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: ncage

Originally posted by: keeleysam
cliffs?

huh? What are you needing?

Ritalin.

ROTFLMAO :thumbsup:

 

[Venomous]

Rule one with RPTV. Turn the contrast/brightness down 50% immediately when you first turn it on and tune it.


CRTs provide much better PQ than DLP. LCD or Plasma.. Thats just a fact.. However, the tradeoff is size.

When DLP becomes mainstream 1080I without bastardizing anything < cough, mitsubishi with their latest bogus 1080i claim > then the wise switch to DLP shall be granted. Otherwise, people are just wasting their money purchasing a 720P box.

Bulb failure is common with DLP, so invest in a UPS setup.

 

[najames]

Funny how things change. I have a 5year old 53" Pioneer NON-Elite rear projection monster that I paid $3000+ for as I recall. Its picture is very good with a good signal and sucks with regualr cable included with the home owners association fees. We have really enjoyed it all these years, especially the HD channels they finally have on cable. Your new set, and my $650 Wally World Special Ilo 27" LCD set, have much better pictures and brightness. I have not yet even played anything HD on the LCD and it still looks great!!!

I need more time for working on the A/V setup and scaling Adelphia cable to fit the screen, never enough hours in a day.

 

[Maetryx]

Originally posted by: Midwayman
Consider the fact that you cant get 1:1 pixel reproduction with a CRT based set like you can with a DLP or CRT set. Thats a BIG issue if you want to use a HTPC or just use the TV as a monitor. Then there is the dim, burn in prone nature of CRTs. PQ in perfect lighting is very good though. on 4:3 material you really need to use grey bars or stretch the signal to avoid uneven phospher burn on CRT's as well.

Assuming you can't see the rainbow effect, DLP really is the supeior technology in most lighting conditions. I got a 52" toshiba DLP for $1440 brand new non refurb at frys a couple weeks back.

Oh and 720p>1080i.

YARG! This is killing me. I was finally talked *totally* into a RP CRT and then you go and talk me back out of it. Of course I'll be connecting my PC to the TV... and from what you said that will suck with a RP CRT. Damn you! Ummmm. Actually, Thank you!

On a happy note, my house sold today and I should have the settlement check early next week. Maybe by then I can be talked into some other TV solution.

 

[TecJunkie]

Originally posted by: vrbaba

Originally posted by: entropy1982
ygpm ncage but i guess u kinda answered my q already will definitely tell dad about it.... wattahell is the reason to buy a dlp for then anyway?

lol, dont be so naive. If you go look, bet the picture quality will blow away any crt u have seen.

ncage has pointed out few of the 'potential' problems, which a LOT of owners DO NOT experience. ppl who do, post about it online, and ppl who dont, dont care abt posting anything. plus, rainbow effects due to the color wheel is not noticeable to non videophiles and very bearable to more than 90% of of those who do see them.

depending what u plan to watch on ur tv the most, one will prefer one or the other.

again, in the end, its what ur eyes see as the best counts.

actually, its about price DUH!