White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

[HomerJS]

White Nationalist and Nazis organized the largest protest of their kind in decades has now tuned violent. Churches in the area tried to have a peaceful counter protest and were attacked by the white nationalists.

Few things I gleam from this.

Climate starts at the top. While Trump did not create these people or organize this event he has fomented a climate in this country where these groups feel empowered. He has also hired white nationalist supporters to work in the White House.

The one thing Trump's people love about him he speaks his mind and speaks it quickly. They also love how Trump does not speak up against white nationalists or terrorism against brown people. On the few occasions where he does it takes days and a few staff meeting so he can carefully craft a response that doesn't piss off his supporters

Hundreds of US white nationalists have rallied at the University of Virginia, protesting against plans to remove a statue of a confederate general.

The group waved torches and chanted "White lives matter" as they marched through the Charlottesville university.

http://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-40909547

 

[snoopy7548]

Absolutely revolting. The right to free speech is our most important right, but IMO when Nazis form a march like this it crosses the line. Certain ideology has absolutely no place in our society. I wholly support the right to spew your racist bullshit and defend a statue, but when actual Nazis (these people are Nazis... you can see the swastika sewn on some of their shirts, the salute, and slogans chanted throughout the videos) form a demonstration, that shit needs to be shut down. The Nazi ideology wasn't fought against in WWII just so it could return in America generations later.

Maybe I'm wrong, though, and hopefully somebody will argue my point because I'd like to see another view on the matter. But think about this... If this were a mass protest with people wearing ISIS symbols and spewing their genocidal nonsense and chanting about a jihad, how would it be any different? Would you support their "right" to do that in America, or would you simply label it as terrorism?

Here's a real nice guy:
"The heat here is nothing compared to what you're going to get in the ovens," shouted Robert Ray, a writer for white supremacist site Daily Stormer.

 

[whm1974]

I think the Union made a major mistake in dealing with the South after defeating them during the Civil War. The South actually got off lightly compared to what other Nations would have done after a Civil War.

 

[HomerJS]

The clock is ticking since Friday night. So how long so you think it will take Trump to make a stron denouncement of white nationalists and Nazis? Not just a generic statement against violent protests?

Will it ever happen?

Also people are open carrying at the riot and there is very little police presence. I recall at the protests in Ferguson there were loads of police in riot gear, dogs, tanks, etc.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Contrary to popular opinion, "white" lives do matter and you don't have to be a racist to think so. As far as preserving our past to give perspective to our future - that is something worth fighting for. Finally, trying to remove things that offend .000001% of the population that are very few and far between is stupid.

Nevertheless, it is sad that this protest had to be brought by a handful of malcontents and not the larger society as a whole.

 

[Jaskalas]

To divide American into any single race or religion is a strictly anti American prospect.
People who stand for that cannot be an American brother or sister of mine.
Yet they are apparently here, in our country. How do we draw a line between freedom of expression and subversion of all we hold dear?
How do we address this aside from the usual condemnation?

 

[HomerJS]

Contrary to popular opinion, "white" lives do matter and you don't have to be a racist to think so. As far as preserving our past to give perspective to our future - that is something worth fighting for. Finally, trying to remove things that offend .000001% of the population that are very few and far between is stupid.

Nevertheless, it is sad that this protest had to be brought by a handful of malcontents and not the larger society as a whole.

Fortunately for you the criminal justice system already treats white lives like they matter so you are safe.

Unfortunately black people don't have that luxury.

 

[alien42]

Contrary to popular opinion, "white" lives do matter and you don't have to be a racist to think so.

fuck you and your fake white snowflake opression.

contrary to your opinion, black lives do indeed matter.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Fortunately for you the criminal justice system already treats white lives like they matter so you are safe.

Unfortunately black people don't have that luxury.

So you are trying to tell me other races have not been mistreated by police? But trying to whitewash history is a bad idea.

fuck you and your fake white snowflake opression.

contrary to your opinion, black lives do indeed matter.

Woah there trigger. no one said no one else's life did not matter. Where did you get that idea?

 

[HomerJS]

So you are trying to tell me other races have not been mistreated by police? But trying to whitewash history is a bad idea.

Nice try but 1 case of a white person does not equate 50-100 cases of black people.

White people don't have to worry about being shot and killed just for exercising their constitutional rights to purchase and carry fire arms. You know that 2nd amendment thing people like you think is the most important thing.

White people don't have to worry about being shot by police just for following their orders.

 

[Sinsear]

Doesn't really look like a riot on TV. Maybe cnn is covering it wrong. Definitely seen some fighting, havn't seen what i would call a riot.

 

[Commodus]

Contrary to popular opinion, "white" lives do matter and you don't have to be a racist to think so. As far as preserving our past to give perspective to our future - that is something worth fighting for. Finally, trying to remove things that offend .000001% of the population that are very few and far between is stupid.

Nevertheless, it is sad that this protest had to be brought by a handful of malcontents and not the larger society as a whole.

These aren't "malcontents." They're neo-Nazis. They wear swastikas; they sincerely want non-white people exiled or killed. Why are you giving them any legitimacy?

 

[UberNeuman]

Hug a Nazi.

 

[boomerang]

Climate starts at the top. While Trump did not create these people or organize this event he has fomented a climate in this country where these groups feel empowered.

What, no blame on the idiots that think removing statues and flags somehow changes history? If not for moronic practices such as those, everybody would be at home enjoying a cool drink on a summer day.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

What, no blame on the idiots that think removing statues and flags somehow changes history? If not for moronic practices such as those, everybody would be at home enjoying a cool drink on a summer day.

You're right. Removing symbols of the people who fought and died to continue the oppression of entire races in no way would help bring unity. That's what divides us. Removing them.

 

[umbrella39]

You're right. Removing symbols of the people who fought and died to continue the oppression of entire races in no way would help bring unity. That's what divides us. Removing them.

Don't blame him... it is far easier to build and attack a straw man than it is to address the actual topic...

 

[TheVrolok]

Why are you guys wasting your time with Felix? It certainly isn't worth the effort. Just ignore him, it's easy enough. As for the OP, the only word really is disgusting. It should not be tolerated.

 

[Jaskalas]

What, no blame on the idiots that think removing statues and flags somehow changes history? If not for moronic practices such as those, everybody would be at home enjoying a cool drink on a summer day.

You're right. Removing symbols of the people who fought and died to continue the oppression of entire races in no way would help bring unity. That's what divides us. Removing them.

Robert E. Lee has long been respected as an American and a General. That honor, by extension, symbolizes the rejoining of the South into the United States... it's a respect that carries our Union past the Civil War. To rip apart and to dishonor the legacy of our reunion as a country is a grave mistake. There are legitimate reasons to be upset and to protest these recent actions against the South.

 

[FIVR]

I was watching some of these protest, and in every one of them one side was heavily armed with riot gear and the other side was unarmed. The heavily armed side were all carrying southern battle flags and "KKK" signs. In one case, I saw a guy dressed in a southern battle flag with a stick and a riot shield with a "POLICE" label beating the crap out of a black guy.



Seems like not many police around too. Probably most of them are protesting with the KKK, that's where they got all the riot gear.

 

[MajinCry]

What, no blame on the idiots that think removing statues and flags somehow changes history? If not for moronic practices such as those, everybody would be at home enjoying a cool drink on a summer day.

Ah, the defense of the faux victim; the people who try to resolve the problem are the real bad guys. Classy.

 

[senseamp]

How stupid do you have to be to show your face at one of these things? People are going to take pictures, and with AI, pictures are going to be searchable just like googling your name. Who is going to hire a know white supremacist?

 

[Jhhnn]

What, no blame on the idiots that think removing statues and flags somehow changes history? If not for moronic practices such as those, everybody would be at home enjoying a cool drink on a summer day.

Nobody said it would change history. Far from it. It changes our perception of History.

The heroes of the Confederacy weren't heroes at all but rather perpetrators of slavery, sedition & insurrection. It was the bloodiest war in our history & they started it.

These statues were erected to remind everybody who ruled the South at the time- Jim Crow. What they accomplish today is is to glorify the bullshit notion that there was some noble purpose behind Secession. Federal authorities should have torn them down as fast as racists could erect them, something that reconstruction failed to specify.

 

[HomerJS]

What, no blame on the idiots that think removing statues and flags somehow changes history? If not for moronic practices such as those, everybody would be at home enjoying a cool drink on a summer day.

Unfortunately some of those idiots work at the White House

 

[FIVR]

How stupid do you have to be to show your face at one of these things? People are going to take pictures, and with AI, pictures are going to be searchable just like googling your name. Who is going to hire a know white supremacist?

Fox news?

 

[Thebobo]

Well I don't know about mass riots that's a little much maybe a couple hundred. It was hard to tell sometimes who was whom both sides with shields and helmets. And a couple idiots with assault rifles trying to look tough, Pathetic that we allow that. Fuck the NRA and Steve Bannon.