White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

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So Fox's website is totally ignoring Trump's comments from yesterday and the blowback he is getting. Not a single word about them on their homepage this morning.

Oh and it wasn't an "attack" it was a "car crash".

I don't think fox's page is being unfair below is fox vs CNN moments ago:




 

Zstream

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I'm sorry, but f-that. After years of the drumbeat of you must say "Radical Islamic Terriorist" every time a terrorist attack happens or somehow you are standing with them calling it a "car crash" vs an "attack" is just bull shit.

Let your guilt flow through you.
 

brycejones

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A couple of gems from the fox comments:


Rightwillberight4 minutes ago


Kushner/Soros liberals are out of the WH. Bannon has won by orchestrating this great day for WHITE RIGHTS. TRUMP has to listen to those of us who put him in the WH> BANNON will throw IVANKA and KUSHNER out. No zionists!!

getridoftheillegals6 minutes ago

The people of this country hired a black president thinking that it would stop racial tension in this country. Not only did it not stop it clearly increased during the years of Odumbos reign of racism.
 
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A couple of gems from the fox comments:


Rightwillberight4 minutes ago


Kushner/Soros liberals are out of the WH. Bannon has won by orchestrating this great day for WHITE RIGHTS. TRUMP has to listen to those of us who put him in the WH> BANNON will throw IVANKA and KUSHNER out. No zionists!!

getridoftheillegals6 minutes ago

The people of this country hired a black president thinking that it would stop racial tension in this country. Not only did it not stop it clearly increased during the years of Odumbos reign of racism.

Haha!

Thanks Obama for the tiki torch racists
 
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Commodus

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So because police officers abuse their powers, I'm at guilt by association? Are you fucking kidding me?

Oh, and to think that police abuse is limited to black people is ignorant and racist. Did you grow up in some sort of rich part of town? Have you ever walked the walk, or been interrogated because your just walking down a fucking street? Have your license taking away because your license plate light was dim?

You guys have no idea what the hell you're talking about.

I didn't say either of those. You're not guilty by association; the problem comes when black people point out racism-fuelled police abuses of power and you try to shift the discussion to black-on-black crime, as if Chicago's South Side must be immaculate before black people can complain about police racism.

And likewise, I did not say that police abuse is limited to black people. It's that there's a widespread strain of abuse that is specifically targeted at black people. Such as killing an unarmed black man when there's clearly no danger. Such as pulling over a black person simply because they're driving a nice car, or because they've ventured into the 'wrong' neighborhood (there's running talk of being stopped for "driving while black"). Such as having an officer follow black people around a store on the assumption that they're going to shoplift.

It's not that white people never know hardships -- of course they do. It's that black people know an extra layer of racism-fuelled hardships, and telling them that these issues don't exist or matter is an affront.
 

FelixDeCat

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Damn, Zin...tell us how you REALLY feel...

He has really been off his rocker lately, expressing opinions with nothing but vile (like many leftists), so Im not sure what his latest crazy comment was about.

But what I said was true, the left has been the source of h8 for everything lately. They go nuts daily at Trump, they go nuts about this, they go nuts about that.

Are there any level headed lefties left anymore?
 
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Grooveriding

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Will Trump actually maintain being a total piece of shit and not calling out the nazis/kkk supporters who have pledged allegiance to him? I'm thinking it's likely. His base is so tenuous he needs everything he can get to have a hope of winning another election. The degenerate could care less what methods or who gets him in there. This is a guy who is fine with his campaign having colluded with Russia to win an election, having his own son carry it out for him. He doesn't give a shit about anything but himself, total sociopath.
 

senseamp

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Why now after 150+ years?

Why now has American's hatred for one another come to this point to deface our own history? To literally attack the post-war reunion of the States by dishonoring those we previously chose to live with and forgive? You treat all Southerners the same, all are guilty of terrorist acts, all are white supremacists? So fuck them all, is that it?

Clearly that is why such a thing would motivate anyone to escalate their hatred for the South. For its symbols, for its history. Because for some reason it has been decided that it can no longer be tolerated 150+ years after. I guess you know better than those who fought the Civil War, and their resolution to it wasn't good enough. That America shouldn't have healed the way it did afterwards so you'll take that reunification and do what you can to erase it.

General Robert E. Lee was an American. Lee wrote to a former Confederate soldier: “This war, being at an end, the Southern States having laid down their arms, and the questions at issue between them and the Northern States having been decided, I believe it to be the duty of everyone to unite in the restoration of the country and the reestablishment of peace and harmony.”

Just 42 years ago this is how Americans reflected on Lee:

President Ford said: “As a soldier, Gen. Lee left his mark on military strategy. As a man, he stood as the symbol of valor and of duty. As an educator, he appealed to reason and learning to achieve understanding and to build a stronger nation. The course he chose after the war became a symbol to all those who had marched with him in the bitter years towards Appomattox.”

Some additional reading. House restores citizenship to Robert E. Lee, July 22, 1975. The 407-10 vote came after a campaign spearheaded by Sen. Harry F. Byrd Jr. (D-Va.). President Gerald R. Ford's Remarks Upon Signing

Congress was united in honoring our country by honoring its past. By honoring an American General for his service and his character.
Today Americans are apparently more concerned with escalating aggression against one another. This behavior sickens me.
Those monuments were the defacement of our history. They were put up by white supremacists seeking to rewrite their own loss in the Civil War, and get a win through the back door of Jim Crow. This stain needs to be wiped once and for all. If you want to start a museum of racist traitor statues, you can can have them, but prominent public places should give no quarter to them.
 

Capt Caveman

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No more than you do, "fucktard".

Honestly though, when I see h8 its usually from the left. They hate this, they hate that. They are so damn negative.

I have Muslim friends and neighbors. I don't want them to leave the country or think they're terrorist, fucktard. All the hate comes from you ignorant dumbasses.
 
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werepossum

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Those monuments were the defacement of our history. They were put up by white supremacists seeking to rewrite their own loss in the Civil War, and get a win through the back door of Jim Crow. This stain needs to be wiped once and for all. If you want to start a museum of racist traitor statues, you can can have them, but prominent public places should give no quarter to them.
Well said. I don't mind such monuments at battlefields (although both sides should be represented since the Confederacy was fighting America) but outside of museums and memorial battlefields, such statues and monuments and flags have no valid place on government property. Nor do I understand why Southerners even want them, as it is the South's most shameful period. It would be like someone demanding a statue commemorating that time he got drunk and tried to screw the dog; while it's good not to forget it (and therefore possibly repeat it), it's certainly not something to celebrate.
 

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Sooo...Richard Spencer and David Duke, who declared that White Nationalists are the reason why Donald is president and he'd better be careful about not crossing them. This is the David Duke who believes that this Nazi rally is fulfillment of Donald's campaign promises.

If Todays conservatives don't want to be associated with Nazis, then you need to haul up your socks and tell them to take a hike. You can start by telling Trump, the leader of your party to fire any of the wannabe Nazis he has on his staff. It's probably too much to ask him to condemn the Nazis, but if he would stop retweeting memes from Nazi sites, that would be a real help. And tell him that this "both sides" shit isn't fooling anyone.
 

Paratus

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Food bank, clothes, money, hours of my time, soup kitchen. The only thing I haven't done is do the mentor program.

If you're strictly talking about money, the right, as you guys seem to call it donate quite a bit more money to charity.

This sounds a lot like church work. Do you do this stuff at your family's church?
 

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I gotta say.... all of this terrorism and white nationalist nonsense, because the people in Charlottesville (and not all of these out-of-state dipshits) want to move an unsightly statue from public property into a museum?

Sure.... this definitely makes the alt-right and Neo-Nazi sympathizers look like a bunch of reasonable folk! /MASSIVE FUCKING S
 

Commodus

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Well said. I don't mind such monuments at battlefields (although both sides should be represented since the Confederacy was fighting America) but outside of museums and memorial battlefields, such statues and monuments and flags have no valid place on government property. Nor do I understand why Southerners even want them, as it is the South's most shameful period. It would be like someone demanding a statue commemorating that time he got drunk and tried to screw the dog; while it's good not to forget it (and therefore possibly repeat it), it's certainly not something to celebrate.

There's that and considering what these monuments mean for black Americans. They're spit in the eye -- imagine if your ancestors were slaves and you have to walk by a statue celebrating the Confederacy for defending "states' rights" (read: defending slavery) while completely omitting any mention of your community's suffering. Removing monuments from these outdoor public spaces is as much about respecting black people as it is eliminating support for revisionist history.
 

werepossum

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There's that and considering what these monuments mean for black Americans. They're spit in the eye -- imagine if your ancestors were slaves and you have to walk by a statue celebrating the Confederacy for defending "states' rights" (read: defending slavery) while completely omitting any mention of your community's suffering. Removing monuments from these outdoor public spaces is as much about respecting black people as it is eliminating support for revisionist history.
Agreed. Although I don't think the aim is straightforward revising of history as much as whitewashing it to remove the stigma attached to the South's position. I think morally and effectively that would be even worse than simply removing all evidence that the Civil War even occurred. We have a much greater chance of repeating evil if we remove the stigma than if we simply forget we have done it before.
 

cytg111

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I dont know what to say about this but sad. And that it all seems to be inching away in the wrong direction day by day.
 

FelixDeCat

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Agreed. Although I don't think the aim is straightforward revising of history as much as whitewashing it to remove the stigma attached to the South's position. I think morally and effectively that would be even worse than simply removing all evidence that the Civil War even occurred. We have a much greater chance of repeating evil if we remove the stigma than if we simply forget we have done it before.

Those statues are so few and far between. Are there more than a handful left anymore? Yet the typical reactionary response is to take them down, which is ignorant. History should be preserved. When we were a more dignified country and civil discourse occurred CIVILLY (not with all the drama of crybabies as it does these days), statues like this were much more prevalent. The Stars and Bars of the Confederacy were even in some state flags. People could express respect for for any opinion even if they disagreed.

Sadly however, free speech is no longer tolerated. And to be honest, the hatred for free speech started in Europe.

We are letting European style censorship overtake America and that should be stopped asap.
 

agent00f

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Give the Nazi a hug and a kiss.

I bet if hitler gave that man had a great job he wouldn't just be dreaming of gassing minorities.

ter·ror·ism
ˈterəˌrizəm/
noun
  1. the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
It seems to fit the textbook definition of it, without any stretch of the definition

He's just understandably making excuses for his own.

Either you have free speech or you dont.

That's what these sorts used to say about "state rights", too.

It's an attempt to gain publicity & actually be relevant. They're not, of course, other than in their overt support of Trumpolini. They're more of a liability than an asset even to him simply because swastikas are a big turnoff to the vast majority of Americans.

If this was supposed to be a show of strength then they failed miserably.

I wouldn't say they failed to show how much Trump & co look to protect their own.
 

HomerJS

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Hey why doesn't Germany erect some Nazi statues? What's with all the PC stuff going on there?
 
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