White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

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Jan 25, 2011
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OMG! Those silly leftists went and did it - in America no less! The bastion of leftists/liberals:

I had no idea there was a statue of Communist in the US - but there is -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Lenin,_Seattle

This is probably where ANTIFA meets on the weekends.
You mean the statue they dress in drag for pride events, paint like a clown and even dressed up like John Lennon? That statue?

You really aren't too bright trying to equate this to confederate monuments.
 
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Starbuck1975

Lifer
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Can you be specific? When you say everyone, you know you include people who act in self-defense, right? Makes you sound like an asshole.

Nazis came to that town armed and looking to start shit. And then they actually killed someone.

You want to both sides this shit, be prepared to accept that you're enabling Nazis.
The ACLU came out in defense of the demonstration, did they also enable Nazis? However, this demonstration was never about a statue. The alt-right attendees, given their personal riot gear and weapons, were there for one reason and that was to antagonize and fight.

The police should have confiscated every shield, spear, gun, gas mask, kevlar helmet and piece of body armor they saw. You don't need those things unless you plan to start sh!t.

However, unless Charlottsville has an active and well organized Nazi hunting militia we don't know about, there were a lot of well armed and well equipped protestors looking to start sh!t as well.

There is only one person enabling all of this, and sadly it is the President of the United States.
 
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Trumpelstiltskin has empowered his supporters to behave this way and I don't expect for things to get any better under his lack of leadership. I doesn't help when BLM, another blatantly racist group, gets up opposing them with their own brand of racism.
nm
 

greatnoob

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Why do you accuse Karl Marx of being evil?

Do you even know who he was?

The idiot's been programmed to think communism = BAD, capitalism = GOOD without having any historical background or any real understanding of either system. They're one dimensional in their thinking (if you can even call it that) which is why you see Trumptards in this thread reaching very hard and far to justify this attack by either blaming "both sides" or by pretending that neo-Nazis' hate speech is considered 'free speech' and should be protected under the constitution.
 
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FelixDeCat

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Wow. Just wow.

I will say it one more time - WOW!

Look at all these Marxists and Lennists coming out of closet here in this thread!

This is why those two snakes killed millions:


Why Communism Kills
The Record of Communist Killing
Communism kills! This is not debatable. The record is crystal clear. The U.S. Senate Internal Security Subcommittee conducted investigations into the number killed in the Soviet Union and China. Their report stated that 35 million to 45 million had been killed in the Soviet Union and 34 million to 62.5 million in Communist China.

Even these figures are considered inadequate by authorities on the Soviet Union such as Solzhenitsyn and Antonov Ovesyenko. The latter, whose father led the Bolshevik storming of the Winter Palace in 1917, has recently published the book entitled The Time of Stalin-Portrait of a Tyranny. He calculates those killed as a result of the Communist conquest of Russia at 100 million.

Some apologists for Communism acknowledge that Communism has killed in the past, but they blame this on incidental factors such as the traditions of cruelty and violence which existed in the countries conquered by the Communists, and they do not believe that killing is an essential ingredient of communism itself. They believe that the triumph of Communism in the United States, England, or Western Europe would not lead to mass slaughter. Are they right or are they suffering from a dangerous delusion? To answer this question, it is necessary to know why Communism kills.

Why

A simple, direct answer to the question, "Why does communism kill?" is-because the founder of Communism, Karl Marx, told them it was necessary to kill a large segment of the population in order to attain the basic objective of Communism.

Marx states in the Manifesto of the Communist Party:

You must, therefore, confess that by "individual" you mean no other person than the bourgeois, than the middle-class owner of property. This person must indeed, be swept out of the way, and made impossible. (Published by Progress Publishers, Moscow, 1973 edition, page 66)
Apologists for Marxism contend that Marx did not intend that this statement should be taken literally. They affirm that he was referring to the gradual elimination of property owners by the transformation of the economic system which Communism would bring to pass. They cannot deny, however, that many followers of Karl Marx, including Stalin, Mao Tse-tung, and Pol Pot have taken this affirmation literally and have proceeded to kill the "middle-class owners of property" once they have acquired power.

To determine whether Marx intended this instruction to be taken literally, it is necessary to review the doctrines and objectives which Marx presented to his followers, and the programs which have been designed and executed to reach those objectives. It is necessary to know his vision of the future as well as his interpretation of the present. We must know what Marx believed and what the Communists continue to believe.
 
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feralkid

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Wow. Just wow.

I will say it one more time - WOW!

Look at all these Marxists and Lennists coming out of closet here in this thread!

This is why those two snakes killed millions:


Karl Marx never killed anyone, you dolt. He was an economist and a philosopher.

I guess if you believe that words can kill, you can believe just about anything.
 
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UberNeuman

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The idiot's been programmed to think communism = BAD, capitalism = GOOD without having any historical background or any real understanding of either system. They're one dimensional in their thinking (if you can even call it that) which is why you see Trumptards in this thread reaching very hard and far to justify this attack by either blaming "both sides" or by pretending that neo-Nazis' hate speech is considered 'free speech' and should be protected under the constitution.

What you're seeing from these people just isn't about Free Speech, but freedom from being responsible for that speech.
 
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Wow. Just wow.

I will say it one more time - WOW!

Look at all these Marxists and Lennists coming out of closet here in this thread!

This is why those two snakes killed millions:

The issue, little deplorable, is nazis. You know, like the ones you're trying so very hard to deflect attention from. What a good little deplorable you are.
 
Jan 25, 2011
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Wow. Just wow.

I will say it one more time - WOW!

Look at all these Marxists and Lennists coming out of closet here in this thread!

This is why those two snakes killed millions:
Ok. Now explain how Marx is responsible for the actions of Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot. The list goes on. I mean Jesus do you even understand Marxian communism vs. Maoism, Leninism etc...?
 

BoomerD

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Feb 26, 2006
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Wow. Just wow.

I will say it one more time - WOW!

Look at all these Marxists and Lennists coming out of closet here in this thread!

This is why those two snakes killed millions:

I agree that communism is bad/evil, but you really can't blame Karl Marx for those his followers murdered. That blame goes to Stalin, Lenin, Mao, PolPot, and others.
Blaming Marx for the murders is like blaming teh Jeezus for the Crusades and the Inquisition.
 

Jhhnn

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Nov 11, 1999
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The issue, little deplorable, is nazis. You know, like the ones you're trying so very hard to deflect attention from. What a good little deplorable you are.

Remember those old WW2 submarine movies? You know, when the enemy spotted 'em so they sounded the klaxon, screamed "Dive! Dive! Dive!" into the PA & headed for the bottom?

That's Felix, headfirst into the bunker o' denial...

Commies! Commies everywhere!
 

whm1974

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Remember those old WW2 submarine movies? You know, when the enemy spotted 'em so they sounded the klaxon, screamed "Dive! Dive! Dive!" into the PA & headed for the bottom?

That's Felix, headfirst into the bunker o' denial...

Commies! Commies everywhere!
I thought the Cold War ended back in 1989 after the Berlin War fell?
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
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Remember those old WW2 submarine movies? You know, when the enemy spotted 'em so they sounded the klaxon, screamed "Dive! Dive! Dive!" into the PA & headed for the bottom?

That's Felix, headfirst into the bunker o' denial...

Commies! Commies everywhere!

Except in dealings with the Trump campaign.
 

Balt

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Now here's a thought. What if no one paid any attention to the Nazi, etc. rallies? What if there were no media coverage, no anti demonstrations (which includes the equally violent and free speech deniers ANTIFA), no audience to give them a modicum of credence. Actually, a month ago there was a KKK rally in Charlottesville with no anti protesters bussed in, little media coverage and not many (if any) illegal incidents. I guess ANTIFA missed the memo.

Sorry, no. Hate groups like this must be exposed to the light of day and confronted. You assume they would just go away if ignored, which is a dangerous assumption. Maybe they would grow in size. These folks don't need the media to feed them new members, they have dark corners of the internet.

How big does the crowd of Nazis have to get before you think they should be confronted? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000?
 

woolfe9998

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Will Trump actually maintain being a total piece of shit and not calling out the nazis/kkk supporters who have pledged allegiance to him? I'm thinking it's likely. His base is so tenuous he needs everything he can get to have a hope of winning another election. The degenerate could care less what methods or who gets him in there. This is a guy who is fine with his campaign having colluded with Russia to win an election, having his own son carry it out for him. He doesn't give a shit about anything but himself, total sociopath.

Sadly, this is spot on. So a bunch of White House people have to come out and condemn them. Who ever heard of a National Security Adviser going public about an incident like this? Must be hell to play damage control in this administration.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/13/politics/trump-silent-aides-charlottesville/index.html
 
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