White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

[dainthomas]

Sorry, but i was pretty clear in calling for the execution of the terrorist.

You should talk to DSF. He thinks the victims share responsibility.

 

[brycejones]

You should talk to DSF. He thinks the victims share responsibility.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that taji agreed with DSF the police and the governor are somehow also responsible. They made this poor man want to drive his car into a crowd of people because reasons.

 

[mizzou]

Well, these are the Nazis that we have, whatever brand of weak-kneed snowflakes they may be, they are the ones we have and thus they must be opposed at every turn. Every turn. And it starts with their president.

Second, I don't agree that they are small in number.

I can support that opposition.

I'm not so sure on how big they are though. I had a professor when I was in College who had a strong focus on militant hate groups in rural america, and I honestly don't see much difference now then I did then. That was two decades ago. He believed there was a strong uptick in participation of hate groups because of the internet, which was true, but I don't think it had a lasting effect other then let the existing portion of that public come further to the surface.

 

[Zorba]

Which is why I quit voting Republican some time ago. Hell I even voted for Hillary to keep Trump out of office.

If only more republicans that were against Trump understood they only way to keep him out was to vote for Hillary...

 

[agent00f]

Who knows? His hometown is right in the middle of the Rust Belt, SW of Toledo. The population actually went down between the 2000 & 2010 census. There's a whole generation living in those parts ripe for radicalization because of broken dreams & lack of opportunity.

It's all the work of the Job Creators, your heroes.

Easy to see what's up when you have far more sympathy for the klansmen than their victims.

Sorry, I totally disagree. Free speech is the absolute right of anyone in this country, no matter how abhorrent, EXCEPT when such speech promotes violence against a specific person or leads to violence in an inflammatory situation (i.e. Michael Brown's stepfather urging the Ferguson rioters to "burn down the town"). Farrakhan is anti Semitic and anti white, but his speech is protected and etc. Your premise that the Nazi scourge could usurp our government is ridiculous, due to a variety of historical reasons I do not have the time to elaborate on here, and I think our government is a hell of a lot more stable than the Wiemar Republic in 1930's Germany. Now, here is one stat I could not find, and that is the number of white supremacists currently active in the U.S. Last figure I could find was 200,000, but outdated. However, there are 350 million (give or take) people in the U.S. population.

Now here's a thought. What if no one paid any attention to the Nazi, etc. rallies? What if there were no media coverage, no anti demonstrations (which includes the equally violent and free speech deniers ANTIFA), no audience to give them a modicum of credence. Actually, a month ago there was a KKK rally in Charlottesville with no anti protesters bussed in, little media coverage and not many (if any) illegal incidents. I guess ANTIFA missed the memo.

As for ISIS, a worldwide terror group espousing the destruction of all Infidels, they are designated a terror org. and illegal in the US...To compare the to the poor pathetic souls involved in white supremacy groups in this country, there is no comparison. I am NOT saying these US groups are not violent, obviously some of them are, but why give them any more attention than they deserve? Which is zero. Illegal acts get punished. Repugnant rhetoric does not. P.S. I am a moderate Republican.

The Wife

~40% of the population, aka the trump base, would certainly be up for another reich. Let's not pretend that's something you can't bear to look the other way for.

want to elaborate as to how he is responsible?

A more tenuous grasp of reality we will rarely see.

Felix just confused marx with german jesus.

 

[1sikbITCH]

Do you think they'll take the habits of the antifa fascists and start wearing masks?

Sheets, masks, whats the dif?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Antifa, the police, and the governor all played a role as well. This could have been easily avoided.

possibly the dumbest thing said in this particular thread. congrats.

 

[UNCjigga]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that taji agreed with DSF the police and the governor are somehow also responsible. They made this poor man want to drive his car into a crowd of people because reasons.

Both are just parroting the Breitbart and Daily Caller talking points that went out last night... Blame this on the black Mayor and Clinton-backed McAuliffe.

Nevermind the fact that local and state police were more focused on finding and dismantling weapons caches setup by the alt-Reich and trying not to spark a bloodbath.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Yes, of course we'll take sides as between racists and people who are against them. The fact that you won't is very telling. If this was a Muslim who plowed his car into a crowd of people, I'm quite certain we wouldn't be hearing this both sides nonsense. Just like Trump.

I'm taking the side that's against violence and any form of bigotry/racism. Please explain why you find that so telling?

And, if this was a Muslim who plowed his car into a crowd of people, I would judge that act evil as well....just as I do in this case. The insinuation that I would judge this somehow differently is wrong.

You seem to want to say that since you believe one side hates more than the other...that this in some way rationalizes the other's hate. Hatred begets hate...and it inevitably escalates into violence....especially when large groups of people are involved. This story is as old as humankind. Will the circle be unbroken?

 

[agent00f]

Trump has been the President of the United States now for roughly six months. And one thing that we have come to understand about him is that he is NOT reluctant to single out people or institutions that he sees as enemies.

Even when it is not in his best interest to do so, even in instances where party members, advisors, or even family members urge him to show restraint, he insists on calling out people as enemies. He has called out members of Gold Star Families, a sitting senator who was a POW, NATO, the Speaker of the House of his own party, the press, any number of alliances no matter how long standing, and even the Contstitution itself.

It is part of his political DNA. It is fundamental and irreducible to his brand of "leadership": if he thinks anyone or anything is an enemy, he will publicly name them with no hesitation, with no regard for previous custom or any notional propriety.

So the fact that he is somehow reluctant to name American white supremacists as enemies is quite easy to explain: he simply does not agree that they are his enemies.

In order not to see that, you have to not want to see it, or not care.

It is as clear as day.

Is there even any contention that his base are these people? The klan orgs have nothing but praise for him, and the whole R party literally goes well out of their way to avoid criticism of their own and try to blame libtards for it all instead.

True. there were a shit-ton of Nazis there, all equally culpable in this violence and one Nazi, in particular, for that murder.

I'd like to see all the Nazis implicated in the death of those two officers that were killed in the helicopter crash.

In fairness, the klansman made the mistake of killing a reasonably attractive white woman, the ones they've vowed to protect from the mexicans & such. Doc Savage Fan & co will find him culpable for that.

 

[vi edit]

I have not posted in this thread at all. But this picture made an impression. It really captures the chaos involving the incident. Sit back and reflect on everything that is happening here.

 

[feralkid]

Felix just confused marx with german jesus.

God knows what goes on in his pointed little head.

 

[HomerJS]

I'm taking the side that's against violence and any form of bigotry/racism. Please explain why you find that so telling?

And, if this was a Muslim who plowed his car into a crowd of people, I would judge that act evil as well....just as I do in this case. The insinuation that I would judge this somehow differently is wrong.

You seem to want to say that since you believe one side hates more than the other...that this in some way rationalizes the other's hate. Hatred begets hate...and it inevitably escalates into violence....especially when large groups of people are involved. This story is as old as humankind. Will the circle be unbroken?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

If a Muslim comitted this attack you would say all sides are to blame?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You are a funny dude

 

[brandonbull]

Texas is a state filled with cowards.

Every single one of you. Fucking cowards. Not one real patriot. Fucking gutless cowards, the lot of you. I don't know one Texan that ever fought for the US. Only: TEXAS!

bunch of useless pussies. ...except for Willie Nelson and Stevie Ray Vaughn. Give us Willie and Stevie's corpse and GTFO, you gutless cowards.

Somebody is extra triggered

 

[brycejones]

I'm taking the side that's against violence and any form of bigotry/racism. Please explain why you find that so telling?

And, if this was a Muslim who plowed his car into a crowd of people, I would judge that act evil as well....just as I do in this case. The insinuation that I would judge this somehow differently is wrong.

You seem to want to say that since you believe one side hates more than the other...that this in some way rationalizes the other's hate. Hatred begets hate...and it inevitably escalates into violence....especially when large groups of people are involved. This story is as old as humankind. Will the circle be unbroken?

And the "I said something but didn't say it" posting from DSF begins in this thread.

Speedy was a piece of shit but at least he was an honest piece of shit.

 

[agent00f]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

If a Muslim comitted this attack you would say all sides are to blame?

HAHAHAHAHAHA

You are a funny dude

Doc Savage Fan is a typical lying degenerate, even if many american democrats can't bring themselves to admit such basic facts.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Somebody is extra triggered

negative, bullshitboy.
Many, many, many people are PISSED that this happened and we are going to do what we can to prevent it from happening again, and that's a hard road to travel when the president tacitly approves the actions.

 

[zinfamous]

Antifa, the police, and the governor all played a role as well. This could have been easily avoided.

yeah, this could have been easily avoided. You could stop carrying water for Nazis, for one. So could your friends. Antifa exists because of Nazis, not despite them

You get that, right, or does this concept elude you?

You should be glad that antifa and other groups are out there, acting as the wall between Nazis and our republic. Seems you and the other bedwetting conservatives would just prefer the Nazis to take over your party, though. Funny, that.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

yeah, this could have been easily avoided. You could stop carrying water for Nazis, for one. So could your friends. Antifa exists because of Nazis, not despite them

You get that, right, or does this concept elude you?

You should be glad that antifa and other groups are out there, acting as the wall between Nazis and our republic. Seems you and the other bedwetting conservatives would just prefer the Nazis to take over your party, though. Funny, that.

I haven't really followed this antifa thing, to me it seems like a group of people who are against fascism, and the people who are against them are pro fascism... am I close? It seems to make sense if you read responses from people who get pissy about the antifa.

 

[zinfamous]

Of course you'll take sides...and I would expect no less from you. I hear "Kill all nazis" was one of the more popular "anti-hate" chants of the day.

yes, we should try to understand Nazis and make all effort to find the value in their core beliefs, that might benefit humanity.

You should mention that thought to your grandfather or anyone from his generation. That will go over quite well, I'm sure.

You are fucking pathetic, you know that? Hopefully you will come around to accept how pathetic you have been made by your GOP betters.

 

[brandonbull]

You don't make "minority" plural by adding an apostrophe and an "s". The plural form of minority is minorities.

Got him their. Grammer Police in the house.

 

[hal2kilo]

God knows what goes on in his pointed little head.

I need to find some FiresignTheater CD's.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Somebody is extra triggered

This is the new normal. There's a lot of pent up anger and hatred among the rank-and-file Left nowadays. And if that wasn't bad enough...they're self-righteous as hell about it as well.

 

[Zorba]

I'm taking the side that's against violence and any form of bigotry/racism. Please explain why you find that so telling?

And, if this was a Muslim who plowed his car into a crowd of people, I would judge that act evil as well....just as I do in this case. The insinuation that I would judge this somehow differently is wrong.

You seem to want to say that since you believe one side hates more than the other...that this in some way rationalizes the other's hate. Hatred begets hate...and it inevitably escalates into violence....especially when large groups of people are involved. This story is as old as humankind. Will the circle be unbroken?

Yeah, how dare people dislike groups that literally want to kill anyone that is not a white christian.

Or do you feel the Allies over stepped with the Nuremberg Trials, too?

There is nothing wrong with being against people that support this:

 

[feralkid]

Got him their. Grammer Police in the house.

There, not "their" you boob.