White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

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zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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Only 3 years ago, the greatest anger and division that these forums could engender came from Game of Thrones speculation and spoilers.

Now, it's discussing Nazis and what should be done with them....yet there still remains some division over what to do with Nazis.

unbelievable.
 

MrPickins

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May 24, 2003
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How much data do you need to look at the nightly news, daily Facebook feed, and realize that there is nary a peep about Blacks murdering and committing violent crimes against Whites? I mean, my Facebook feed is literally every other post about this. When have I seen all these people taking harsh stand with harsh language about Whites getting murdered/assaulted by Blacks? Nevah. Do you need a study to observe Reality?

Maybe because most murder/assault against white people is perpetrated by other whites?
 
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Coming from the guy that accused me of invoking Godwin's Law in a thread literally about Nazis. While you were actively defending those Nazis with your typical "both sides do it" crap. Then of course when called on it you pulled your classic "who me."

Most people when being accused of supporting Nazis would clarify what they said, you just first act offended then acted like you never said anything.

At least the other sympathizers in this thread don't try claim they didn't say what they said a couple hours before.
I've explicitly stated in this thread that I don't support Nazi's. How many times do I need to say it before it sinks into that pea-sized brain of yours?
 

chucky2

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Dec 9, 1999
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You are trying to say it's the minorities that are racists? This is your excuse for your behavior no doubt.

Right there would be your problem. Why would you ever think I was saying that it's just minorities who are racist, but that whites aren't? I never said that. I never suggested that. What I did say, and is absolutely accurate, is minorities are fffffaaaarrrr more racist than the average Whitey will ever be. So, given that (over 30s years of personal experience, that's a given for me, not a supposition), why as a Whitey am I going to super duper shame concerned about being racist, or having other Whites be racist, given the overwhelming amount of minorities I've met/know are easily more racist than everyday whitey Suzy homemaker? How F'ing dumb would white people be to be hyper concerned about being racist when the exact people they're concerned about experiencing racism are far more racist than they'll ever be? The White Guilt some of these fools possess is simply insane...

You feel better if they're called white supremecists?

I really don't feel anything about them at all...?

Tell me chucky, what do you think of Black Lives Matter? Are they all racists and it's a racists terrorist group, or is it just some of them?

Well, 3 decades of experience has taught me without any doubt that minorities are way more racist than the average white person. So, taking away the Whites that make up BLM leaves us with minorities (of course), that would mean that group is composed largely of racists. But, I'm really fine with that. I don't care if the Blacks in BLM are racist. I'm far more concerned how they actually treat people. I'm racist, and I treat my black neighbors like I treat my white neighbors, and they likewise. Our yards are all close, noise travels. Conversations travel. They know I'm racist, I know they're racist. We all get along fine.

As for your racist terrorist group, does BLM even have an actual leadership structure, save for some community organizers? Beats me. I'm sure there are a good number of people that cause trouble who are in BLM. The bulk possibly can't otherwise we'd be a nation at literal war...
 

chucky2

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Your FB feed is not an objective view of news or the world at large.

My FB Friends list is a good representation of liberals, conservatives, whites, blacks, hispanics (although not too many of them, just didn't live in areas with high hispanic population), women, men, etc. I'll trust the Comments section of what ends up on my wall as an objective view of how people are thinking before I'd ever trust The Media. You want me to trust CNN? Liberal Hahhhvaaad professor? Nah, what they pimp out ain't what I can see/experience in Reality. I'd take Reality over propaganda any day...
 

agent00f

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Right there would be your problem. Why would you ever think I was saying that it's just minorities who are racist, but that whites aren't? I never said that. I never suggested that. What I did say, and is absolutely accurate, is minorities are fffffaaaarrrr more racist than the average Whitey will ever be. So, given that (over 30s years of personal experience, that's a given for me, not a supposition), why as a Whitey am I going to super duper shame concerned about being racist, or having other Whites be racist, given the overwhelming amount of minorities I've met/know are easily more racist than everyday whitey Suzy homemaker? How F'ing dumb would white people be to be hyper concerned about being racist when the exact people they're concerned about experiencing racism are far more racist than they'll ever be? The White Guilt some of these fools possess is simply insane...

I really don't feel anything about them at all...?

Well, 3 decades of experience has taught me without any doubt that minorities are way more racist than the average white person. So, taking away the Whites that make up BLM leaves us with minorities (of course), that would mean that group is composed largely of racists. But, I'm really fine with that. I don't care if the Blacks in BLM are racist. I'm far more concerned how they actually treat people. I'm racist, and I treat my black neighbors like I treat my white neighbors, and they likewise. Our yards are all close, noise travels. Conversations travel. They know I'm racist, I know they're racist. We all get along fine.

As for your racist terrorist group, does BLM even have an actual leadership structure, save for some community organizers? Beats me. I'm sure there are a good number of people that cause trouble who are in BLM. The bulk possibly can't otherwise we'd be a nation at literal war...

Race realist over here also thinks these shitty blacks are better off under GOP/confederate policies, same as all the other conservatives.
 

chucky2

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Maybe because most murder/assault against white people is perpetrated by other whites?

In outright numbers, sure. Same for Black on Black. Controlled for population, what were the White on Black and Black on White violent crime rates?
 

BonzaiDuck

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Basically, all the posturing about non-white racial groups being "more racist" than whites is bunk. The demographic situation that prevailed in the past has almost changed to tip the scales, but you have to lump together all the Rainbows to balance the White population. The Rainbows have always been minorities.

It's true that in China, they often refer to Caucasians as the "Big Noses." The North Koreans are racist in their hatred of Americans both black and white.

Yet I've seldom met any blacks or Asians who hold to any equivalent racist attitudes shown by the Alt Right today, and I've "been aroun' -- you know. . . " The two biggest benefactors in my own professional career were an African American and a Chinese American respectively.

No, this attempt at "equivalence" in the argument is bunk. The Alt Right is showing a long-time sense of entitlement for simply being White. They have such a deficit of self-esteem that they have to find an identity in their race.

It would be easier for a minority to take solace in such an identity simply for being a besieged minority. If the Alt Right racists feel "besieged," they also come from areas where there is less diversity. They have an "us versus them" view of the world.

These arguments about "equivalent racism" are about as dumb as KellyAnn Conway's "alternative facts" argument. That's a legal ploy, for cherry-picking facts to suit the desired conclusion, as opposed to integrating all available facts in a rigorous exercise of logical inference.

The Alt Right and no less the GOP today are intellectually and morally bankrupt.
 

nakedfrog

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My FB Friends list is a good representation of liberals, conservatives, whites, blacks, hispanics (although not too many of them, just didn't live in areas with high hispanic population), women, men, etc. I'll trust the Comments section of what ends up on my wall as an objective view of how people are thinking before I'd ever trust The Media. You want me to trust CNN? Liberal Hahhhvaaad professor? Nah, what they pimp out ain't what I can see/experience in Reality. I'd take Reality over propaganda any day...
Do you know how your FB feed works?
 

chucky2

Lifer
Dec 9, 1999
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So you don't know what you're talking about yet felt compelled to express your oh so precious opinion. That's real Freedumb!

I mean, we could click the links in the Mike Brown thread, but we didn't know until later than people actually had to lie because they were afraid of what the White Nationalist locals would do to them if they actually told the truth. Oh, wait...

(to be fair, this guy looks like he took a running start into these people...if you can take a running start, that means you could have stayed backed off)
 

chucky2

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Dec 9, 1999
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Do you know how your FB feed works?

I constantly get stuff from Proggie friends, Rightie friends, black friends, white friends, etc. Then I like going to read the comments. How is that somehow inferior to what the Clinton News Network producer wants to put on the 24 hour lemming broadcast?
 

raildogg

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Aug 24, 2004
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The ACLU came out in defense of the demonstration, did they also enable Nazis? However, this demonstration was never about a statue. The alt-right attendees, given their personal riot gear and weapons, were there for one reason and that was to antagonize and fight.

The police should have confiscated every shield, spear, gun, gas mask, kevlar helmet and piece of body armor they saw. You don't need those things unless you plan to start sh!t.

However, unless Charlottsville has an active and well organized Nazi hunting militia we don't know about, there were a lot of well armed and well equipped protestors looking to start sh!t as well.

There is only one person enabling all of this, and sadly it is the President of the United States.

You guys are giving too much importance to the person called the President. There are forces way beyond his control that influence and shape society in many ways. Remember, his base, at least on the internet, is of alt-right whites who seemingly hate Muslims, Democrats etc. etc. It would not make sense for Trump and the people behind him to immediately denounce his supporters.

I don't give too much importance to Trump but have noticed the trends. The trends appear to be that the powers that be want division, hatred, confusion and tribalism. Trump was the perfect candidate for all these things and he has lived up to it. The whole system, starting from the top and working down, encourages these types of beliefs and attitudes. It is not a coincidence that the alt-right came into prominence immediately after Trump announced his candidacy.

Also, it was not a coincidence that Trump, for whatever reason (kind of strange actually) came out with the birther story after Obama became president. The media gave him much coverage along with Arpaio. These things just don't happen out of thin air. The seeds were being sewn to start and grow the alt-right so-called movement back then.
 

chucky2

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Dec 9, 1999
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Basically, all the posturing about non-white racial groups being "more racist" snip

I mean, comedians make jokes about Asians, Indians, Blacks, and Latinos, and Whites, being racist. The entire audience finds it funny because they know it's true (most likely because they've all seen it themselves...well, except for those rich liberals and conservatives, they don't like to dirty themselves where the less well off filth lives). You've 'been around', but never seen Asian and Indian racism towards Blacks? You've 'been around' but never seen Black racism towards Asians, Indians, or Whites? LOL, yeah, OK...
 
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