White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

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werepossum

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Pretty much? or he is? There really isn't any gray area.
Sure there is. Calling for putting people in camps because they advocate something he hates is somewhat like Hitler, but not exactly like Hitler. One can go even further and posit that FDR actually putting Japanese, Germans, Italians, Hungarians, and Romanians in camps is more similar to, but still vastly different from, Hitler putting people in camps.

Nobody is Hitler except Hitler, and ALL such comparisons are necessarily gray areas.
 

ivwshane

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Sure there is. Calling for putting people in camps because they advocate something he hates is somewhat like Hitler, but not exactly like Hitler. One can go even further and posit that FDR actually putting Japanese, Germans, Italians, Hungarians, and Romanians in camps is more similar to, but still vastly different from, Hitler putting people in camps.

Nobody is Hitler except Hitler, and ALL such comparisons are necessarily gray areas.

I must have missed that post, do you have a link?
 

JSt0rm

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Sure there is. Calling for putting people in camps because they advocate something he hates is somewhat like Hitler, but not exactly like Hitler. One can go even further and posit that FDR actually putting Japanese, Germans, Italians, Hungarians, and Romanians in camps is more similar to, but still vastly different from, Hitler putting people in camps.

Nobody is Hitler except Hitler, and ALL such comparisons are necessarily gray areas.

Well in germany nazi speech is illegal. What happened that made that happen? Why would speech be illegal?
 

agent00f

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Sure there is. Calling for putting people in camps because they advocate something he hates is somewhat like Hitler, but not exactly like Hitler. One can go even further and posit that FDR actually putting Japanese, Germans, Italians, Hungarians, and Romanians in camps is more similar to, but still vastly different from, Hitler putting people in camps.

Nobody is Hitler except Hitler, and ALL such comparisons are necessarily gray areas.

Nobody except the people arguing against literal nazis of course.

Well in germany nazi speech is illegal. What happened that made that happen? Why would speech be illegal?

Cus they are the nazis of course. All the people against the nazis are the Real nazis, and those literally marching around in swastikas aren't nazis; every conservative knows this.
 

werepossum

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Well in germany nazi speech is illegal. What happened that made that happen? Why would speech be illegal?
lol Yeah, I wonder what that was? I tried asking the Poles back in '43, but they weren't answering their phones . . .
 

realibrad

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Luckily law enforcement didn't wait for the new OKC bomber to act before stopping him.

And what is the alternative? The FBI once thought MLK was dangerous, should we have taken him out? How about Malcom X? For every crazy religious bomber you have far more on the other side. You are literally going down the path that those on the right make about Islam. Knowing Trump got into power is a great example why your argument is so scary.

What happens when the other side has the power and thinks you are a danger?
 

agent00f

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And what is the alternative? The FBI once thought MLK was dangerous, should we have taken him out? How about Malcom X? For every crazy religious bomber you have far more on the other side. You are literally going down the path that those on the right make about Islam. Knowing Trump got into power is a great example why your argument is so scary.

What happens when the other side has the power and thinks you are a danger?

So many sides to this, so much blame to go around.
 

realibrad

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So for you hyperbole is ok but for him its not. What other double standards do you have? You've also said that you are ok with violence if it to combat violence which is the exact same fucking thing he said except you didn't afford him the use of hyperbole. Its why he said, "if the only way (that means all other options have been exhausted) to stop you (and he's referring to a movement whose history has been genocide) is to kill you, so be it.

So if you pulled your head out of your ass you'd see that you actually agree with him!

Btw you also tried to point out non violent movements to support your claim that there are alternatives to violence and your claims were bullshit. Britain left India because it was no longer feasible due to their involvement with the war and because of the growing tensions within India. Had wwii not happened its been argued that the likelihood of the British leaving would have diminished and probably not have happened for another 30 years.

As for MLK, he preached non violence but he also understood that violence was a necessity sometimes in order to shed light on an issue.

So I'm still waiting for you to show me a non violent movement that worked. I'm guessing your next reference will be the Tibetan monks.

1. He was not using hyperbole.

2. Brittain left before they would have otherwise if not for the movement.

3. MLK used nonviolence.

You did not realize that the comment you responded to was actually saying. Read the posts leading up to what he said. He is serious.
 

Younigue

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@chucky2
Well if you won't have a better experience in life then you won't.

Where you see looking for acceptance I saw opportunity. Completely worth it too.

You've got a pretty dark heart working extra hard under those "moobs" of yours. Too bad it doesn't beat to the rhythm of goodness. And since you mentioned your moobs I'm going to make the leap that you feel extraordinarily ugly on the outside but I will guarantee you right now whatever the outside looks like it's got nothing on how truly heinous things have gotten on the inside. Just ewww, ya know.

Also, if you decided for one moment to be a decent person it absolutely could erase 30 years. Just think of how much lighter you'd feel without ever having to lose a single pound.

I guess there's nothing else to say but Power On Ugliness Personified.
Request: Stop subjecting people to it. Do us that solid won't you? You have nothing to teach any one. There are others here more than willing to teach us Who Not To Be.
 
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For Christs sake! Is there some sort of debate going on right now about whether or not nazis or white supremacy is bad?

What the fuck is wrong with you? We aren't discussing monetary policy or climate change, we are discussing universally agreed upon hate groups whose history lead to millions upon millions of dead people.
Communists ? Socialists? Yes, they are all guilty in the murders of millions of their citizens.
 

agent00f

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You needed to run right over there and try and get that acceptance in. If you did that to any group doing that to you around here, they'd laugh right in your F'ing face. Or, be fake so they can fake use you, while you sucker White Guilt derp a derp like you're accomplishing something. But hey, maybe you found a diamond in the rough eh? Nothing you've said is going to change my 30 years of direct experience. When you can time travel with me back in time, see what I've seen, heard what I've heard, experienced what I've experienced, then maybe you'll get where I'm coming from. The sad thing is, the way sucka Whitey is raised now, they'll get the same stuff and can't White Guilt (omg my 'white privilege') fast enough...they are that mind F'd... (truly Mission Accomplished! for Liberals)
Well if you won't have a better experience in life then you won't.

Where you see looking for acceptance I saw opportunity. Completely worth it too.

You've got a pretty dark heart working extra hard under those "moobs" of yours. Too bad it doesn't beat to the rhythm of goodness. And since you mentioned your moobs I'm going to make the leap that you feel extraordinarily ugly on the outside but I will guarantee you right now whatever the outside looks like it's got nothing on how truly heinous things have gotten on the inside. Just ewww, ya know.

Also, if you decided for one moment to be a decent person it absolutely could erase 30 years. Just think of how much lighter you'd feel without ever having to lose a single pound.

I guess there's nothing else to say but Power On Ugliness Personified.
Request: Stop subjecting people to it. Do us that solid won't you? You have nothing to teach any one. There are others here more than willing to teach us Who Not To Be.

Remember that according to Jhhnn all these people are merely the poor victims of the 1%.

Communists ? Socialists? Yes, they are all guilty in the murders of millions of their citizens.

All the nazis, klan and gop/conservatives totally agree with you.
 
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show me, you little twatwaffen. when did I do that?
You claim you've never called anyone a Nazi in this forum? How about Incorruptible ? You know back a few years when you labeled him a neo-nazi? That after 3 or 4 minutes looking at your spewing violence and hate filled posts. You label them, then make the statement that violence, up to and including murder is justified.
 

chucky2

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Well if you won't have a better experience in life then you won't.

Where you see looking for acceptance I saw opportunity. Completely worth it too.

Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself lol. I'm glad you got your opportunity to be accepted by those minorities. Why that was so important to you is...odd...especially in light of how their non-racist racist behavior towards you was on full display, but, hey, whatever floats your boat.

You've got a pretty dark heart working extra hard under those "moobs" of yours. Too bad it doesn't beat to the rhythm of goodness. And since you mentioned your moobs I'm going to make the leap that you feel extraordinarily ugly on the outside but I will guarantee you right now whatever the outside looks like it's got nothing on how truly heinous things have gotten on the inside. Just ewww, ya know

BS, Pepsi is good. And so is Brown's Chicken. As a former athlete, the moobs take getting used to but stairs are extra jiggly. No wonder women like to show'em off (oh sh1t, sorry, women would never do that, that's so misogynist of me! lol) My heart is fine btw, it is odd though how you need to imagine it as dark? So odd isn't it, that me publicly acknowledging I'm just living according to Reality prompts you to ascribe me having a dark heart? Can't it just be a normal heart? What threatens you so, the fact I have the temerity to put out accurate non-PC sanctioned messages or that I might be right? Both? Odd isn't it that I have to be wrong, isn't it? I mean, if what I said was acknowledged as true, my god, I mean, the entire White Guilt trip would look pretty F'ing stupid, wouldn't it? Can't have that now...

Also, if you decided for one moment to be a decent person it absolutely could erase 30 years. Just think of how much lighter you'd feel without ever having to lose a single pound

If only you could get the people chucking garbage out their car windows to be decent people... Hell, we could erase 30 years of blight on the village, ironic, no?

I guess there's nothing else to say but Power On Ugliness Personified.
Request: Stop subjecting people to it. Do us that solid won't you? You have nothing to teach any one. There are others here more than willing to teach us Who Not To Be.

Oh, of course I'll keep on keepin on! Tell you what: Have the libs and media stop running the White Guilt and 'white privilege' indoctrination, and I'll stop pushing Reality in your faces. Deal?
 

agent00f

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1. He was not using hyperbole.

2. Brittain left before they would have otherwise if not for the movement.

3. MLK used nonviolence.

You did not realize that the comment you responded to was actually saying. Read the posts leading up to what he said. He is serious.

You claim you've never called anyone a Nazi in this forum? How about Incorruptible ? You know back a few years when you labeled him a neo-nazi? That after 3 or 4 minutes looking at your spewing violence and hate filled posts. You label them, then make the statement that violence, up to and including murder is justified.

Personally I think conservatives sacrificing themselves jumping in front of this bus to protect the klan/nazis is the best case scenario.
 

Younigue

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Nope, not playing your stupid game.

We are at war with Muslim extremist ( terrorist ). There are huge differences between a Nazi and a Muslim extremist. Nowhere have I ever stated we should kill or exact violence against anyone simply because they are Muslim, Nazi, Athiest, Redneck or Yankee or they have ideas different than my own. Not even you.
No, hate that wants to eliminate anyone for any reason is hate that wants to eliminate someone for some reason. Why do you believe you get to determine which hate is more acceptable. Stop being messed up pcgeek.

As for hating Nazi's it IS different (and any kind of destructive extremist groups) They deserve to be "hated" and by that I mean stopped, not eliminated.

I think I'm gong to start calling you BoZo until you come correct!
 
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agent00f

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No, hate that wants to eliminate anyone for any reason is hate that wants to eliminate someone for some reason. Why do you believe you get to determine which hate is more acceptable. Stop being messed up pcgeek.

As for hating Nazi's it IS different (and any kind of destructive extremist groups) They deserve to be "hated" and by that I mean stopped, not eliminated.

I think I'm gong to start calling you BoZo until you come correct!

Just a heads up these guys know exactly why they need to protect their own. They wouldn't be here carrying water for nazis/klan otherwise.

If anything it's the democrats easily fooled by the usual conservative strategy of playing dumb.
 

Jhhnn

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Nazis will never have power in this country unless they try to take it by force. Should it come to that force would obviously be required to stop them.

There aren't nearly enough of them to succeed in that endeavor & there likely never will be, given the reaction from the public every time they crawl out from under their rocks. It's fine by me if the Klan & the rest of the Alt-right want to associate themselves with actual Nazis because they're showing their true colors. Now they're all fucking Nazis
 

Younigue

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Just a heads up these guys know exactly why they need to protect their own. They wouldn't be here carrying water for nazis/klan otherwise.

If anything it's the democrats easily fooled by the usual conservative strategy of playing dumb.

I'm not fooled.
 

agent00f

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Nazis will never have power in this country unless they try to take it by force. Should it come to that force would obviously be required to stop them.

There aren't nearly enough of them to succeed in that endeavor & there likely never will be, given the reaction from the public every time they crawl out from under their rocks. It's fine by me if the Klan & the rest of the Alt-right want to associate themselves with actual Nazis because they're showing their true colors. Now they're all fucking Nazis

You make it sound as if the GOP are too dumb to tie their shoes or know that defending nazis/klan carries a price that they expect to be repaid. Keep in mind everyone said Trump will need to turn to the center after pretending he didn't know what the klan was during the primaries; he didn't and that price was repaid in his presidency. David Duke literally brags about this:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/donald-trump-david-duke-charlottesville/index.html

I'm not fooled.

Like many democrats you keep accusing these people of being stupid/ignorant when they know exactly what they're doing backing the klan/reich.
 

Younigue

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Hey, whatever you need to tell yourself lol. I'm glad you got your opportunity to be accepted by those minorities. Why that was so important to you is...odd...especially in light of how their non-racist racist behavior towards you was on full display, but, hey, whatever floats your boat.



BS, Pepsi is good. And so is Brown's Chicken. As a former athlete, the moobs take getting used to but stairs are extra jiggly. No wonder women like to show'em off (oh sh1t, sorry, women would never do that, that's so misogynist of me! lol) My heart is fine btw, it is odd though how you need to imagine it as dark? So odd isn't it, that me publicly acknowledging I'm just living according to Reality prompts you to ascribe me having a dark heart? Can't it just be a normal heart? What threatens you so, the fact I have the temerity to put out accurate non-PC sanctioned messages or that I might be right? Both? Odd isn't it that I have to be wrong, isn't it? I mean, if what I said was acknowledged as true, my god, I mean, the entire White Guilt trip would look pretty F'ing stupid, wouldn't it? Can't have that now...



If only you could get the people chucking garbage out their car windows to be decent people... Hell, we could erase 30 years of blight on the village, ironic, no?



Oh, of course I'll keep on keepin on! Tell you what: Have the libs and media stop running the White Guilt and 'white privilege' indoctrination, and I'll stop pushing Reality in your faces. Deal?

My husband is waiting patiently to use my tablet... I'll get back to you later.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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lol Yeah, I wonder what that was? I tried asking the Poles back in '43, but they weren't answering their phones . . .

So how do you think fascism started in Germany? Do you think speech was first or violence? What do you think the end goal of an American nazi is?
 
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