White Nationalist mass protest turns to riot at University of Virginia

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realibrad

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no, just comparing their rise to power and the social and economic factors involved. while i find Trump to be immoral, corrupt, unethical, and a breeder of hate and bigotry, he has not committed genocide.

Correct. He is not Hitler and to claim he is diminishes the evil Hitler and his followers did. Trump is shitty and will be bad for sure. Others here seem to think he and Hitler are one in the same, but that Trump has not led his people yet.

for starters, we need a President who identifies them as terrorists and federal law enforcement that monitors and keeps track of them. it's the next part that's supposed to be the most difficult, not that first part.

You cannot identify them as terrorist until they commit acts of terror.
 
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Correct. He is not Hitler and to claim he is diminishes the evil Hitler and his followers did. Trump is shitty and will be bad for sure. Others here seem to think he and Hitler are one in the same, but that Trump has not led his people yet.

Who? When? Where?
 

alien42

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You cannot identify them as terrorist until they commit acts of terror.

even Jeffery Beauregard Sessions III initially called it "the definition of domestic terrorism" which he has since dropped.

i don't see how any rational human couldn't see that those torch wielding nutjobs were terrorizing the town, even before the car attack.
 
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Younigue

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So you are okay with others doing your dirty work? I mean this quite literally, that is sad.

I continue in hopes that I can help sway people. If I fail, violence happens, If I do nothing, violence happens.
This again? I told you, I use my words. I intervene when I see or hear filth. I have reasoned conversation and I am proud of the changes I've ignited in people. Still sad?
 

realibrad

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even Jeffery Beauregard Sessions III initially called it "the definition of domestic terrorism" which he has since dropped.

i don't see how any rational human couldn't see that those torch wielding nutjobs were terrorizing the town, even before the car attack.

The driver committed terrorism, but when did he say that the rally was terrorism? Reply to this or PM me, either way.
 

realibrad

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This again? I told you, I use my words. I intervene when I see or hear filth. I have reasoned conversation and I am proud of the changes I've ignited in people. Still sad?

If you think violence is required but you are unable to push yourself to do it, then yes.
 

Younigue

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So you are okay with others doing your dirty work? I mean this quite literally, that is sad.

I continue in hopes that I can help sway people. If I fail, violence happens, If I do nothing, violence happens.
Oh, and yeah I'm ok with it. If they are willing and choose their own method for dealing with Nazi's short of killing or permanently disabling them. Were each our own persons realibrad.

So, you're gong to continue belaboring your point? My fingers are itching to put you temporarily on ignore. You're becoming rather tedious. Not yet, but soon I assume.
 

bshole

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We've already talked, you and me.

If there are people willing to put a stop to them, I'm for it. I just know that I myself can't perpetrate violence upon anyone. And neither are you willing. Your "solutions" leave far too much room for growth among their numbers.

Why are you belaboring your point. I think everyone understands what you are saying, they disagree. Your solution (though less violent to begin with) is no better than their's or mine. Violence is inevitable. But so is dismantling their lives. It is not a single pronged attack that will stop them.

Any way, I think you should stop. You've changed no one's mind, so to what end do you continue?

In reality, these neonazis have existed my entire life (see the Blues Brother movie). What is different is the president of the United States stating that some of them were good people. This is a new low for Trump and he should be held accountable for it. He should be made to walk that statement back or leave office Going after the neonazis is far less important than going after the most powerful man in the world who refuses to condemn them. It is incredibly dangerous for Trump to be able to state that and remain in office.
 

Younigue

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Obviously, she has bone spurs.
Well, due to my arthritis I do have a a growth on the bottom of my left heel. Complicates walking significantly. Also my fingers no longer bend (hence the Swype type) so making fists are impossible but worst of all I can't even give my opponents the middle finger any more... Imagine their shock when I just have to go ahead and utter the words Fu*k You. Oh My!
 

Younigue

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In reality, these neonazis have existed my entire life (see the Blues Brother movie). What is different is the president of the United States stating that some of them were good people. This is a new low for Trump and he should be held accountable for it. He should be made to walk that statement back or leave office Going after the neonazis is far less important than going after the most powerful man in the world who refuses to condemn them. It is incredibly dangerous for Trump to be able to state that and remain in office.
Absolutely, I've been caught up in this thread for sure but my loathing for Trump is as it has always been. He is currently the bigger threat.
 

ch33zw1z

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Well, due to my arthritis I do have a a growth on the bottom of my left heel. Complicates walking significantly. Also my fingers no longer bend (hence the Swype type) so making fists are impossible but worst of all I can't even give my opponents the middle finger any more... Imagine their shock when I just have to go ahead and utter the words Fu*k You. Oh My!
Doh, I was joking lol. Sorry to hear, I feel your pain when it comes to chronic problems
 

bshole

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Absolutely, I've been caught up in this thread for sure but my loathing for Trump is as it has always been. He is currently the bigger threat.

Trump is a business owner. What other CEO could make such a statement and have his company not be impacted? His business interests are therefor fair game as well. They are legit targets for protesters. Their CEO has expressed support for NAZIs. He MUST pay a price for that statement. It troubles me that people seem to have moved past it already.
 

J.Wilkins

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Trump is a business owner. What other CEO could make such a statement and have his company not be impacted? His business interests are therefor fair game as well. They are legit targets for protesters. Their CEO has expressed support for NAZIs. He MUST pay a price for that statement. It troubles me that people seem to have moved past it already.

The problem with this is that the employees are working a job, not running a support club for Dear Leader and they are the ones that have to deal with the protests.

You want a real protest? Go to the White House and ensure the press is invited, get more people there (far more preferably) than were at his inauguration and ensure it's reported everywhere. THAT will sting far worse.
 
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JSt0rm

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why spend hours debating the retard @realibrad Hes like some unemployed deplorable with weird world views. You will literally never change his mind and he is one of the least important humans on the planet so it wont matter one way or the other.
 

J.Wilkins

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why spend hours debating the retard @realibrad Hes like some unemployed deplorable with weird world views. You will literally never change his mind and he is one of the least important humans on the planet so it wont matter one way or the other.

Sometimes poking the retard is funny.

It got sad in the end though, he really doesn't know how to think.
 

Younigue

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Doh, I was joking lol. Sorry to hear, I feel your pain when it comes to chronic problems
It does suck but I still have my sense of humor and even if no one else laughs I find myself hilarious! I also didn't let it stop me from ding the CoinciDance at the Hoedown I went to last weekend. If you haven't seen the CoinciDance it's just about the awesomest. YouTube it.
 
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J.Wilkins

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It does suck but I still have my sense of humor and even if no one else laughs I find myself hilarious! I also didn't let it stop me from ding the CoinciDance at the Hoedown I went to last weekend. If you haven't seen the CoinciDance it's just about the awesomest. YouTube it.

Despite your hardships you do seem happier than most which is great. I enjoy your posts a great deal.
 
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Younigue

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Trump is a business owner. What other CEO could make such a statement and have his company not be impacted? His business interests are therefor fair game as well. They are legit targets for protesters. Their CEO has expressed support for NAZIs. He MUST pay a price for that statement. It troubles me that people seem to have moved past it already.
It bothers me as well however I don't think those of us who despise him are forgetting the main point. The guy is every thing we thought he would be and much worse.
 
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