BTW, does this mean we get to bomb north carolina, or at least iraq where them terrarrists come from.
That's absolutely true. It's just that it's disconcerting to see someone make logical rational arguements in one subject and lose their shit in another.Just because they know about computers doesn't imply they won't understand how politics works.
That's absolutely true. It's just that it's disconcerting to see someone make logical rational arguements in one subject and lose their shit in another.
On this subject it also means they had a shitty education on the subject of the Civil War.
Hey, since you're here, care to comment on why the president went well of out his way to protect said sons of the confederacy? A term you might find useful in that endeavor: nothingburger.
Yeah, they want to turn America into a white ethnostate, but violence isn't in the game plan when it comes to getting rid of other races. Riiiight.Wow! They disavowed him faster than Trump has disavowed them!
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ion_to_driver_who_plowed_into_protesters.html
Trump really is appalling in that respect & all others. That's obviously not a nothingburger.
In a weird way I miss Spidey. I know he'd have some whacky reason why the car went into the protestors something like a black guy had a concealed laser and he pointed it at the driver to blind him, then he'd post some bizarre picture "proving" it.
O-o may do the job in his stead...
I wouldn't say playing politics well equals losing their shit, same as I wouldn't say they're uneducated on the point of the confederacy.
So, uhh, you really think incidents like this advance their cause?
If you do, they're not the only ones who are delusional.
Sorry, I totally disagree. Free speech is the absolute right of anyone in this country, no matter how abhorrent, EXCEPT when such speech promotes violence against a specific person or leads to violence in an inflammatory situation (i.e. Michael Brown's stepfather urging the Ferguson rioters to "burn down the town"). Farrakhan is anti Semitic and anti white, but his speech is protected and etc. Your premise that the Nazi scourge could usurp our government is ridiculous, due to a variety of historical reasons I do not have the time to elaborate on here, and I think our government is a hell of a lot more stable than the Wiemar Republic in 1930's Germany. Now, here is one stat I could not find, and that is the number of white supremacists currently active in the U.S. Last figure I could find was 200,000, but outdated. However, there are 350 million (give or take) people in the U.S. population.Absolutely revolting. The right to free speech is our most important right, but IMO when Nazis form a march like this it crosses the line. Certain ideology has absolutely no place in our society. I wholly support the right to spew your racist bullshit and defend a statue, but when actual Nazis (these people are Nazis... you can see the swastika sewn on some of their shirts, the salute, and slogans chanted throughout the videos) form a demonstration, that shit needs to be shut down. The Nazi ideology wasn't fought against in WWII just so it could return in America generations later.
Maybe I'm wrong, though, and hopefully somebody will argue my point because I'd like to see another view on the matter. But think about this... If this were a mass protest with people wearing ISIS symbols and spewing their genocidal nonsense and chanting about a jihad, how would it be any different? Would you support their "right" to do that in America, or would you simply label it as terrorism?
Here's a real nice guy:
"The heat here is nothing compared to what you're going to get in the ovens," shouted Robert Ray, a writer for white supremacist site Daily Stormer.
Why not you? The poor bastard was probably automated out of a job.
just shut the fuck up. your blather has no basis in reality.Those statues are so few and far between. Are there more than a handful left anymore? Yet the typical reactionary response is to take them down, which is ignorant. History should be preserved. When we were a more dignified country and civil discourse occurred CIVILLY (not with all the drama of crybabies as it does these days), statues like this were much more prevalent. The Stars and Bars of the Confederacy were even in some state flags. People could express respect for for any opinion even if they disagreed.
Sadly however, free speech is no longer tolerated. And to be honest, the hatred for free speech started in Europe.
We are letting European style censorship overtake America and that should be stopped asap.
Sorry, I totally disagree. Free speech is the absolute right of anyone in this country, no matter how abhorrent, EXCEPT when such speech promotes violence against a specific person or leads to violence in an inflammatory situation (i.e. Michael Brown's stepfather urging the Ferguson rioters to "burn down the town"). Farrakhan is anti Semitic and anti white, but his speech is protected and etc. Your premise that the Nazi scourge could usurp our government is ridiculous, due to a variety of historical reasons I do not have the time to elaborate on here, and I think our government is a hell of a lot more stable than the Wiemar Republic in 1930's Germany. Now, here is one stat I could not find, and that is the number of white supremacists currently active in the U.S. Last figure I could find was 200,000, but outdated. However, there are 350 million (give or take) people in the U.S. population.
Now here's a thought. What if no one paid any attention to the Nazi, etc. rallies? What if there were no media coverage, no anti demonstrations (which includes the equally violent and free speech deniers ANTIFA), no audience to give them a modicum of credence. Actually, a month ago there was a KKK rally in Charlottesville with no anti protesters bussed in, little media coverage and not many (if any) illegal incidents. I guess ANTIFA missed the memo.
As for ISIS, a worldwide terror group espousing the destruction of all Infidels, they are designated a terror org. and illegal in the US...To compare the to the poor pathetic souls involved in white supremacy groups in this country, there is no comparison. I am NOT saying these US groups are not violent, obviously some of them are, but why give them any more attention than they deserve? Which is zero. Illegal acts get punished. Repugnant rhetoric does not. P.S. I am a moderate Republican.
The Wife
Now here's a thought. What if no one paid any attention to the Nazi, etc. rallies? What if there were no media coverage, no anti demonstrations (which includes the equally violent and free speech deniers ANTIFA), no audience to give them a modicum of credence. Actually, a month ago there was a KKK rally in Charlottesville with no anti protesters bussed in, little media coverage and not many (if any) illegal incidents. I guess ANTIFA missed the memo.
If Churchill hadn't bused in those troops Hitler could have been peacefully ignored.Sorry, I totally disagree. Free speech is the absolute right of anyone in this country, no matter how abhorrent, EXCEPT when such speech promotes violence against a specific person or leads to violence in an inflammatory situation (i.e. Michael Brown's stepfather urging the Ferguson rioters to "burn down the town"). Farrakhan is anti Semitic and anti white, but his speech is protected and etc. Your premise that the Nazi scourge could usurp our government is ridiculous, due to a variety of historical reasons I do not have the time to elaborate on here, and I think our government is a hell of a lot more stable than the Wiemar Republic in 1930's Germany. Now, here is one stat I could not find, and that is the number of white supremacists currently active in the U.S. Last figure I could find was 200,000, but outdated. However, there are 350 million (give or take) people in the U.S. population.
Now here's a thought. What if no one paid any attention to the Nazi, etc. rallies? What if there were no media coverage, no anti demonstrations (which includes the equally violent and free speech deniers ANTIFA), no audience to give them a modicum of credence. Actually, a month ago there was a KKK rally in Charlottesville with no anti protesters bussed in, little media coverage and not many (if any) illegal incidents. I guess ANTIFA missed the memo.
As for ISIS, a worldwide terror group espousing the destruction of all Infidels, they are designated a terror org. and illegal in the US...To compare the to the poor pathetic souls involved in white supremacy groups in this country, there is no comparison. I am NOT saying these US groups are not violent, obviously some of them are, but why give them any more attention than they deserve? Which is zero. Illegal acts get punished. Repugnant rhetoric does not. P.S. I am a moderate Republican.
The Wife
Anyone who wants opposition to Nazis to take the form of "debate" or "just ignore it" will be noted as complicit.
Nazis have no place in this country.
Agree fully, but all these assholes who are NIMBY about everything else seem totes kewl with the Nazis next door here. It's disgusting.Nazis have no place. Period.
How anyone has any other stance on the topic of Nazis is mind boggling.Nazis have no place. Period.
Why not move all the memorials/monuments to the battlefields? Most of the battlefields have been turned to historic areas or national parks and are basically outdoor museums. Move that stuff there. Then it's not at capital buildings, or courthouses, or town squares etc etc.
"but... but... hear them out... they're having their 1st amendment rights violated, blah, blah blah..."How anyone has any other stance on the topic of Nazis is mind boggling.
(no, it wasn't actually Voltaire who said it.)I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Evelyn Beatrice Hall