White people less likely to be gay

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Greenman

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Kinseys research is where the 10% figure comes from.I'm not saying he was right.
Except for recent immigrants, the African Americans alive today are descended from the ones that didn't get murdered.

Couldn't we substitute "everyone" for "African Americans" without changing the factual basis of the statement?
 

Carfax83

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(1) So lesbianism has a different cause then. Fair enough.

The cause is likely the same (imbalanced hormone exposure during prenatal development), but the outcome is different. Research indicates that gay men have a feminine brain structure, while lesbians have a masculine one.

Gay men also outnumber lesbians 3:1 which is most likely due to the fact that fetuses start out physically female.

(2) Its not soy, but the feminine hormones at fault. Are you suggesting that brain changes cannot occur to the child after its born. Especially at a very young age when drinking formula?

There is undoubtedly brain development after a child is born, but what I'm alluding to is the fundamental brain pattern. Men and women have different brain patterns, and these brain patterns are formed during prenatal development.

It's these same patterns that researchers found to be "different" in homosexuals, in the sense that they mirror that of the opposite sex, more than the same sex.

(3) It causes an increase. It is not the sole cause. There could very well be other things that cause an excessive amount of female hormones to be in a man.

The power of hormones to create deep changes diminishes greatly over time. For instance, in the womb, testosterone exposure can cause the fetus to develop masculine attributes, ie a penis, testes, brain pattern etc... That's how boys are made.

Give estrogen to a young boy before puberty, and he will be indistinguishable from a real girl, boobs, hips and all unless you pull down his pants.

Give that same estrogen to an adult man however, and he will end up looking more like a cross dresser than anything else. That's because his body has already been masculinized to the full extent, and the power of the female hormones to enact changes is severely diminished.

The part I found the funniest was when they came out with BPA-free bottles because they were worried about estrogen-like horomones leaching out of the plastic into the formula

I think chemicals like BPA or foods like soy that can mimic estrogen may be causing the testosterone levels and sperm count of men to diminish (a long with mineral depletion in the soil) all across the World.

But I don't think they are responsible for homosexuality. Homosexuality goes much deeper, to the genetic level.
 

classy

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I will say it flatout, no way this is an accurate poll. Except for flaming gays, you will not get an african american to admit to being gay, even anonymously.
 

halik

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Big hole in your argument is with asians - in the US, asians out-earn whites on average, so any notion that low income->lack of nutrients -> higher incidence of homosexuality goes out the window.
 

Jaskalas

Lifer
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Big hole in your argument is with asians - in the US, asians out-earn whites on average, so any notion that low income->lack of nutrients -> higher incidence of homosexuality goes out the window.

It's dead wrong to suggest all people who can afford "proper" food would choose it.
 

Carfax83

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Big hole in your argument is with asians - in the US, asians out-earn whites on average, so any notion that low income->lack of nutrients -> higher incidence of homosexuality goes out the window.

This goes back to the ignorance of Vitamin D I was talking about earlier.

Income and Vitamin D level have nothing to do with each other, because humans make Vitamin D in our skin. Food sources are far inferior to Sunlight in that regard.

And many Asians (specifically referring to the women) typically do not work, or even play outside for fear of getting darker. The same goes for African Americans.

White American females on the other hand are much more likely to sun bathe than any other ethnic group..
 

alzan

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Most surveys in the U.S, including political exit polls have repeatedly shown that approximately 4% of the population is LBGT.

Good for them. And we/they know all people surveyed are answering truthfully exactly how?

From my experience, it's usually the pro gay people that use the 10% figure, as it makes the gay community seem much larger and thus more important than it really is.

Yes, we will always people who will fiddle with numbers to push an agenda, commit a crime, etc.

Few people work outdoors or spend enough time in the Sun to achieve optimal Vitamin D levels.. And the majority of Americans are invariably ignorant when it comes to their health, so unless their doctor tells them to, they will never think to take extra Vitamin D in supplement form.

Personally, I take 5,000 iu per day.

Yes we should all spend more time in the sun. Citizens of first world countries probably get the least amount. But the world is more than just Canada, USA, Britain, etc.

Unless the porn craze ends, I don't see the girl on girl fixation many heterosexual men have ending any time soon.. It was porn that started it in the first place years ago.

Possibly, although there was sex going on long before drawing or writing.

Studies that I've read, claimed that married heterosexual men are the highest wage earners.

And the ones with families to support have lower amounts of disposable income. It's not just about how much you earn, but how much you have to invest, spend, etc.
 

classy

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And this is just from your own experience?

Yeah... son, you a homofag.

Are you kidding me, lol. Being gay in the black community is seriously frowned upon. I seriously doubt, you could get many gay African Americans to admit they are gay. Let me clarify, I am not saying that is good or right, but that's the way it is.

And there is no reason to call anyone using any variation of the word i love you, that's just unacceptable.
 

nehalem256

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Big hole in your argument is with asians - in the US, asians out-earn whites on average, so any notion that low income->lack of nutrients -> higher incidence of homosexuality goes out the window.

But I bet Asians do consume more soy

Are you kidding me, lol. Being gay in the black community is seriously frowned upon. I seriously doubt, you could get many gay African Americans to admit they are gay. Let me clarify, I am not saying that is good or right, but that's the way it is.

And there is no reason to call anyone using any variation of the word i love you, that's just unacceptable.

Exactly. Suppressing their homosexual desires causes them to act out and commit crimes. Then in prison they are able to act out said desires in a socially accepted manner.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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Kinseys research is where the 10% figure comes from.I'm not saying he was right.
Except for recent immigrants, the African Americans alive today are descended from the ones that didn't get murdered.

100% of the white Americans today are descended from the ones that didn't get murdered (at least before child rearing age which you failed to mention)..... What exactly is your point?
 

Orignal Earl

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I could believe some sunshine would help some posters here with getting their testicles to finally drop
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
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I already knew it was an abnormality and never said it wasn't, but so is being left-handed. Should we prevent people from being left-handed?

The answer is No. This isn't Gattaca.

What about blond, blue eyed people? They are at greater risk of skin cancer. We should get rid of them as well.
 

Darwin333

Lifer
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I will say it flatout, no way this is an accurate poll. Except for flaming gays, you will not get an african american to admit to being gay, even anonymously.

So you are implying that a much larger portion of black folk are gay than what the poll states?
 

Orignal Earl

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After we fix the gay, can we get started on the Metrosexuals
Can't stand it when there's some guy standing next to me with so much perfume on it makes my eyes water
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
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And they're the most likely to vote Democratic even though the Democratic party is the least homophobic.

The Democrat party is using you for votes. Dont ever make the mistake thinking they actually like you. Its a bunch of old white straight men running things, they've just done a better job than the GOP convincing you otherwise.
 

who?

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Lynch mobs would murder black people for things like looking at a white woman funny.
 

cybrsage

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What about better dressers?

This part is often true, but only because gays (being more feminine) tend to care more about their appearance than most straight men do. Metrosexuals (straight men who are in touch with their feminine side) dress well too, but they are a minority of men.
 
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