White powder sent to Mormon temples in Utah, LA

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jonks

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Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Thuggery and intimidation that is being displayed by the Bash Back group (gay activist) is wrong. The Mormons do not hate gay people, they believe in preserving the family unit as a man and woman heading the household. I'm not sure why there is a problem with a small minority of 2% of Mormons in California that take the opportunity to vote on what they believe in... regardless of whether or not other people think its fair or not...Isn't that what you all do when you go into vote? Do you not use your brain and what you know to be true and best, and do your best to represent yourself in voting??? I do...some things pass and some don't...

The $20 million that members of the mormon church donated to the Yes on 8 campaign, mostly coming from people not even living in the state, drew a bullseye target on the church as a purveyor and supporter of a law that many see as anti-civil rights. I simply see it as a fucking waste of money that could have fed, clothed and cured untold thousands of people who are truly in need, as religion purports to want to do.
 

FiddleDD

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But still, didn't the No side have twice as much money, giving them a more than equal right and opportunity to advertise and convince people to join their side and give them a truly fair election?

Really I could see if it was a one-sided affair where they didn't have funds or anything and didn't get a fair shake, but they got a fair shake and then some to rally "no" votes.

And they made some crucial political mistakes along the way that weren't the Mormons fault...like a gay teacher taking children to a gay wedding...that was committing suicide for their own cause....the Mormons didn't make that person do that...
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Thuggery and intimidation that is being displayed by the Bash Back group (gay activist) is wrong. The Mormons do not hate gay people, they believe in preserving the family unit as a man and woman heading the household. I'm not sure why there is a problem with a small minority of 2% of Mormons in California that take the opportunity to vote on what they believe in... regardless of whether or not other people think its fair or not...Isn't that what you all do when you go into vote? Do you not use your brain and what you know to be true and best, and do your best to represent yourself in voting??? I do...some things pass and some don't...

It's not really because 2% of the population of California Voted for Prop 8. It's because the organization they were part of were so out front both Financially and Vocally about it.

I suspect Gay people don't hate Mormons either, but the Opposition always gets the focus of criticism. I hope whoever sent the powder gets caught and prosecuted, but highly doubt that the criticism of the Mormon Church will stop anytime soon.
 

FiddleDD

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Dec 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: FiddleDD
Thuggery and intimidation that is being displayed by the Bash Back group (gay activist) is wrong. The Mormons do not hate gay people, they believe in preserving the family unit as a man and woman heading the household. I'm not sure why there is a problem with a small minority of 2% of Mormons in California that take the opportunity to vote on what they believe in... regardless of whether or not other people think its fair or not...Isn't that what you all do when you go into vote? Do you not use your brain and what you know to be true and best, and do your best to represent yourself in voting??? I do...some things pass and some don't...

It's not really because 2% of the population of California Voted for Prop 8. It's because the organization they were part of were so out front both Financially and Vocally about it.

I suspect Gay people don't hate Mormons either, but the Opposition always gets the focus of criticism. I hope whoever sent the powder gets caught and prosecuted, but highly doubt that the criticism of the Mormon Church will stop anytime soon.

I agree that the criticism of the Mormon church probably will not stop anytime soon...but hopefully no further harm is done to them or their families.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
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how can you deny Christ's teachings from a group of people and then criticize them for not being good Christians?
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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how is it OK for Corbett to associate isolated extremists with the political majority they are closest to only when related to the left side. any right side extremists are dismissed as being separate from the party closest to them. dude, you're a douchebag.
 

FiddleDD

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Dec 11, 1999
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Originally posted by: loki8481
how can you deny Christ's teachings from a group of people and then criticize them for not being good Christians?

As far as I understand it...even if a Christian were the last person on earth..they would not be denied their Faith...because being a Christian has more to do with your belief in Christ and not much to do with others dictating whether you can believe in Christ or not....

 

FiddleDD

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Originally posted by: between
Originally posted by: FiddleDD
But still, didn't the No side have twice as much money,

that is not correct, approximately equal amounts were raised by the yes and no campaigns.

well I guess that made it an even campaign...cuz it wasn't fun to watch Oprah buy a presidency...
 

jpeyton

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:laugh:

Sorry, I tried to feel empathetic towards the Mor[m]ons. I just can't. It feels wrong.
 

MeanGene

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Mormon Derangement Syndrome.

Doesn't matter what the anti-Prop 8 crowd does, including terrorism, it's completely shrugged off.

Well the Mormons started it....
Why even post this, what a stupid thread....
You're just bitter....
Who cares! Don't you know Mormons have crazy belief x/y/z!
No sympathy for Morons! woooo, clever, if you leave out an 'm' it spells moron!
Mormons just have a persecution complex....

Is there anything that could possibly happen that you folks would say "ok, now they've gone too far." I think I know the answer.
 

Jschmuck2

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Originally posted by: MeanGene
Mormon Derangement Syndrome.

Doesn't matter what the anti-Prop 8 crowd does, including terrorism, it's completely shrugged off.

Well the Mormons started it....
Why even post this, what a stupid thread....
You're just bitter....
Who cares! Don't you know Mormons have crazy belief x/y/z!
No sympathy for Morons! woooo, clever, if you leave out an 'm' it spells moron!
Mormons just have a persecution complex....

Is there anything that could possibly happen that you folks would say "ok, now they've gone too far." I think I know the answer.

Yes, we've said that, repeatedly.

Someone went too far.

Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. Also, WWYBYWB?
 

MeanGene

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Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Yes, we've said that, repeatedly.

Some have, many haven't.


Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Your reading comprehension skills are lacking.
Just read some posts a few up from mine and then tell me whose comprehension skills are lacking.


Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Also, WWYBYWB?

Never been banned, just new here.
 

JEDIYoda

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Jul 13, 2005
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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Jschmuck2
Hey Corbett, where do you live?

Why?

Why? Just curious. I'll bet if we had five guesses though, we could probably figure it out.

Also, how much joy do you take in posting these threads? You must be a very, very bitter and angry person.

I think the better question is: Why are there only 1 or 2 people on this message board that would post this article?

I would post this article...
Only my comment would be -- you get what you sow......
 

Zenmervolt

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Oct 22, 2000
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Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: sandorski
Sad to see, but your whole "Tolerance" angle is rather ridiculous. Mormon Church was Intolerant, now it Reaps what it Sows.

So as long as someone is intolerant first, that opens the flood gates?

Interesting....

Not at all, but as Jesus said, "Do unto others....". It is a long held piece of Wisdom, taught by most Religions and as a Religious organization they should have seen it coming.

I suppose you feel that only the First Intolerant has the Right to Intolerance?

Interesting....

Neither party has the "right" to intolerance.

But how do we deal with a 5 year old who excuses his behaviour by saying "Timmy did it first!"? Shouldn't we expect grown adults to behave better than 5 year olds?

And yes, Jesus said to "Do to others as you would have them do to you", He also said, immediately before that, "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also."

"Do to others as you would have them do to you" is not permission for people who have been wronged to then retaliate (because by retaliating they are thereby breaking the commandment) as you seem to imply.

ZV
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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Evidence that the powder was sent by Prop 8 protesters?
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Vic
Evidence that the powder was sent by Prop 8 protesters?

I was thinking the exact same thing. It would have been an intelligent PR stunt by one of the Mormons to send it. Re: the majority of people, including the OP, would jump to the wrong conclusion. Such an act undermines the anti-prop 8 group's ability to say "we're tolerant and you're not." And, for that same reason, I somehow the vast vast majority of anti-prop 8 people would be stupid enough to do this.
 

redgtxdi

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Jun 23, 2004
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I seriously think the left in this subforum may quite possibly redefine cynicism as we know it.


Who's to say the No on 8 movement didn't vote FOR it just for this very moment in time?? (The gays do like their parties, don't they? And where better to have a whopper than downtown SLC, eh??)


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