Discussion White supremacists behind over 80% of extremism-related U.S. murders in 2022

HomerJS

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Welcome to your Republican utopia. There are about 6 of you here who still doubt white conservatives are the #1 domestic terrorist threat. Despite all our intel agencies reporting on this you still keep your head buried in the sand. We now have the numbers from 2022.


 

woolfe9998

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Sample size is 25 murders, however. Need a larger sample size. Would work to combine perhaps 2019-2022.
 

Greenman

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If I'm reading the numbers right, 18 out of the 26,031 killings in the US were committed by white supremacists. I'd also like to note that the article is discussing white supremacists, not white conservatives as the OP stated. While one may be a sub group of the other, murder isn't a basic tenant of conservativism.
 

HomerJS

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If I'm reading the numbers right, 18 out of the 26,031 killings in the US were committed by white supremacists. I'd also like to note that the article is discussing white supremacists, not white conservatives as the OP stated. While one may be a sub group of the other, murder isn't a basic tenant of conservativism.
The right reading is extremist related killings.

I took some license with conservatives because they are not white progressives or moderates. Also, conservatives in power support white nationalism by attending their events, inviting them to Republican events, breaking bread with known racists and anti-semites. White conservatives are part of the problem not part of the solution.
 

Amused

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If I'm reading the numbers right, 18 out of the 26,031 killings in the US were committed by white supremacists. I'd also like to note that the article is discussing white supremacists, not white conservatives as the OP stated. While one may be a sub group of the other, murder isn't a basic tenant of conservativism.

Not all conservatives are white supremacists, but ALL white supremacists are conservatives/GQPers. Furthermore, ALL conservatives are FINE enough with that to NOT make a concerted effort to oust the white supremacists.
 

fskimospy

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Not all conservatives are white supremacists, but ALL white supremacists are conservatives/GQPers. Furthermore, ALL conservatives are FINE enough with that to NOT make a concerted effort to oust the white supremacists.
I don’t think that’s true, although I would agree an alarmingly high number of conservatives feel that way.
 

Greenman

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The right reading is extremist related killings.

I took some license with conservatives because they are not white progressives or moderates. Also, conservatives in power support white nationalism by attending their events, inviting them to Republican events, breaking bread with known racists and anti-semites. White conservatives are part of the problem not part of the solution.
The article you posted is about white supremacists. That article claims they're responsible for eighteen killings last year. I'll accept that without any verification. I also don't see it as a national concern that the public needs to be warned about. To me, 18 out of 20k killed means that white supremacists are near the very bottom of the list of dangerous groups.

My point here is I don't understand the dire warnings. In the field of mass murderers they aren't high on the score board.
 

cytg111

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The article you posted is about white supremacists. That article claims they're responsible for eighteen killings last year. I'll accept that without any verification. I also don't see it as a national concern that the public needs to be warned about. To me, 18 out of 20k killed means that white supremacists are near the very bottom of the list of dangerous groups.

My point here is I don't understand the dire warnings. In the field of mass murderers they aren't high on the score board.
You could make that argument about most terrorism.
 

fskimospy

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The article you posted is about white supremacists. That article claims they're responsible for eighteen killings last year. I'll accept that without any verification. I also don't see it as a national concern that the public needs to be warned about. To me, 18 out of 20k killed means that white supremacists are near the very bottom of the list of dangerous groups.

My point here is I don't understand the dire warnings. In the field of mass murderers they aren't high on the score board.
It’s not that huge a concern in the scheme of things but I think it is still notable that since 9/11 the #1 source of terrorist killings in the US has been the far right, not Islamists.

While yes, I understand ‘after 9/11’ is a big qualification still it’s been two decades of the primary terrorist threat being the far right and we never treat it that way.
 

HomerJS

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The article you posted is about white supremacists. That article claims they're responsible for eighteen killings last year. I'll accept that without any verification. I also don't see it as a national concern that the public needs to be warned about. To me, 18 out of 20k killed means that white supremacists are near the very bottom of the list of dangerous groups.

My point here is I don't understand the dire warnings. In the field of mass murderers they aren't high on the score board.
You prefer sounding the alarm about terrorism that isn't white?

Going back to that well again? Terrorists plan and execute those plans to violently effect political goals. Are you willing to wait until some white nut picks out a black church or synagogue and assassinates 30 people?

You still haven't answered the question why conservatives in power support white nationalists. Why? And don't give me some bullshit that they don't because I can easily list a dozen examples. A lot more with effort.
 

Meghan54

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You prefer sounding the alarm about terrorism that isn't white?

Going back to that well again? Terrorists plan and execute those plans to violently effect political goals. Are you willing to wait until some white nut picks out a black church or synagogue and assassinates 30 people?

You still haven't answered the question why conservatives in power support white nationalists. Why? And don't give me some bullshit that they don't because I can easily list a dozen examples. A lot more with effort.

You know the possibility of getting a coherent, thoughtful, well researched answer from him is a non-positive integer.
 
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